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    Australia - Karmein Chan, 13, Templestowe, Vic, 13 April 1991

    I was reading an article on alleged pedophile/child pornographer and suspected murderer Peter Scully this morning and was reminded of the unsolved murder of Karmein Chan, 13, who was abducted from her parents' Templestowe home in 1991. Her body was found a year later in in Edgars Creek, Thomastown.

    It has long been believed that Chan was a victim of Mr. Cruel, a child rapist active in and around Melbourne during the early 90s. At least one of Mr. Cruel's surviving victims reported that her assailant filmed his crimes.

    Before being jailed in the Phillippines, Peter Scully lived in Melbourne. In fact, he seems an eerie fit for many of the points on the police profile of Mr. Cruel. Does anyone know if he has been investigated with regard to any of these crimes?

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    http://www.theage.com.au/news/nation...916721667.html
    http://www.smh.com.au//breaking-news...214-18vna.html
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...in-philippines
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-0...ppines/6287794
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    Bumping.

    The child porn community in Australia can't be that huge. If Scully isn't Mr. Cruel, there's still a good chance the two have communicated in some fashion.
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    I am sure police would have looked for any links or rule outs for Scully being Mr Cruel, but I doubt we'd find out unless police wanted more info from the public. My feeling is that Scully is too depraved, even for Mr Cruel. And Mr Cruel was obsessively meticulous, which I don't think fits Scully. But perhaps he changed over 20 odd years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightbird View Post
    I am sure police would have looked for any links or rule outs for Scully being Mr Cruel, but I doubt we'd find out unless police wanted more info from the public. My feeling is that Scully is too depraved, even for Mr Cruel. And Mr Cruel was obsessively meticulous, which I don't think fits Scully. But perhaps he changed over 20 odd years.
    Perhaps, but Scully's doing time in the Philippines and I've seen no indication that Australian police have been allowed to question him, let alone review the evidence. It's hard to imagine that a guy like Cruel would just stop, and part of his whole makeup was creating and consuming child pornography. With the internet and digital footprints being what they are, this case just feels solvable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightbird View Post
    IMy feeling is that Scully is too depraved, even for Mr Cruel.
    You're probably right. I don't think Cruel ever intended to kill Karmein Chan and that he did means something must have gone drastically wrong and he lost control of the situation. All of his surviving victims told of playing a sick game of "house" with their captor, which would make Mr. Cruel more of a classic pedophile than a sadist. However, in sexual offenders, acts of voyeurism and burglary often escalate into violence so nothing's really off the table in terms of what this guy might have been capable of.
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    New article featuring interviews with unnamed Mr. Cruel suspect:

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law...adf7ac43b0cedc
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    http://www.9news.com.au/national/201...ncreased-to-1m

    The reward over the "Mr Cruel" murder of 13-year-old Karmein Chan is set to rise to $1 million...

    Today marks the 25th anniversary of her abduction from her Templestowe home on April 13, 1991.

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    The number one suspect in the Mr Cruel case is a man called Brian Elker.

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    https://www.missingpersons.gov.au/wh...rreau-rhiannaq

    Possible victim re: discussed either knowing or having helpt another person bury someone in Regional victoria, in an unsolved case over a decade old.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pettibon Junction View Post
    New article featuring interviews with unnamed Mr. Cruel suspect:

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law...adf7ac43b0cedc
    I think this is the same article, but I'm not completely sure as that link asks for a subscription before you can read it. Either way, the interactive map is very interesting and informative.

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law...dc3dcfba744534

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jigoku Dayu View Post
    I think this is the same article, but I'm not completely sure as that link asks for a subscription before you can read it. Either way, the interactive map is very interesting and informative.

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law...dc3dcfba744534
    Thanks for the link, I haven't seen that one before. I think Karmein was more than he bargained for and she put up a huge fight compared to the other girls so he killed her.

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    Bumping this thread.. always think about this girl and other victims of Mr cruel

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    No code has to be inserted here.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Cruel

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