MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #6

Status
Not open for further replies.

tlcya

Old and Re-Tired Websleuth
Joined
Oct 28, 2009
Messages
42,081
Reaction score
63,476
Toddler’s remains found on Deer Island

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...deer-island/EEsj7gFuOy5eGeagBvlBaK/story.html

http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMU/1250459/1

NamUs

Boyfriend of 'Baby Doe's' mother held without bail; mom's bail set at $1M
Updated 5:52 PM ET, Mon September 21, 2015
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/21/us/boston-baby-doe-charges/
150918150156-baby-doe-split-medium-plus-169.jpg

Bella Bond

Thread #1
Thread #2
Thread #3
Thread #4
Thread #5

Rules, Etiquette and Information

Social Media rules

THE MEDIA TIMELINE - NO DISCUSSION THREAD
 
I went through a bunch of articles to try to build a timeline. There are some questionable dates, as some weren't specific dates. Please feel free to update/change or add to this. Think this will help in piecing things together.

1/15 TB last sees her niece at her house LINK
3/12/15 MF last sees Bella at her birthday party LINK
5/15? RB claims MM killed Bella & then hid in fridge
5/15? RB & MM spent days on heroin following murder
6/25/15 Body of Baby Doe found in bag on Deer Island LINK
7/15? MF claims she contacted LE or DCF about Bella LINK
7/20/15 85 Digital Billboards go up about Baby Doe LINK
8/28/15? JA returns to Boston from Florida (few weeks prior?)
8/28/15? JA said RB said Bella was in Cape Cod LINK
9/8/15? JA & PQ claimed they contacted LE or DCF about Bella
9/16/15? RB tells MS that MM killed Bella after much pressure
9/16/15 LS, MS sister contacts LE
9/17/15? RB told JA that MM murdered Bella & spent night at water LINK [no specific date just end of week]
9/17/15 MS talks with investigators/police receive a tip LINK
9/17/15 RB's apt is searched LINK
9/18/15 Baby Doe identified as Bella Bond LINK
9/18/15 LE finds MM at hospital for minor surgery
9/18/15 RB & JA picked up at his mothers house LINK
9/21/15 Rachell Bond & Michael McCarthy Arraignment LINK
9/23/15 RB's apt searched again & K-9 brought in LINK

When was MM admitted to the hospital & how did that happen??

Did RB go with JA to his mothers house because her apt was being searched?


RB Rachell Bond (mother)
JA Joseph Amoroso (bio dad)
PQ Patricia Quinn (JA's mother)
TB Tamera Bond (RB's sister)
MF Megan Fewtrell (godmother)
MM Michael McCarthy (boyfriend)
MS Michael Spinsky (MM's friend)
LS Laura Spinsky (MS's sister)
 
Joypath thanks so much for lending your experience to Bella's discussion. I understand that freezing would probably lead to changes that would be forensically obvious to the ME. But what about simple refrigeration and not freezing. It has been most widely reported that Bella's little body was placed in a refrigerator and not specifically in a freezer.

If she were refrigerated and never frozen, would that refrigeration be as easily discernable during autopsy as freezing would or less so?

thanks,

tlcya


Simple answer.................MAYBE!................(see I can be "non-verbose"!:laughing:)

BUT.....not for long!:happydance:


I mentioned before what I ASSUMED might have occurred in the morgue: total DUHs& some "head scratching" as the scene pictures, evidence & body were examined.

Starting at the scene: the OCME techs probably were stunned over the insect(s) present & missing! The TOD frequently can be supported by the specific "critters" present, modification of the body's storage/temperature CAN impact that proven entomological sequence. Then the mixed condition of the body also might lend a question as to where the actual death scene occurred.
A forensic pathologist DID present @ the body recovery scene (inside info!) due to the "weirdness"!

Refrigeration of the body would slow down the decomposition process BUT will NOT stop it (freezing will stop it), picking up the clues of it would be difficult & again be based on the culmination of ALL data. Refrigeration is NOT as easy to pinpoint as freezing as the changes in anatomy is more subtle (erythrocytes don't "explode").

Another detail causing havoc with the examination is the effects of the H2O and the animal activity from H2O animals. Then add in the "greenhouse" effect of the bag as the body lay on a hot, sandy beach!
 
I went through a bunch of articles to try to build a timeline. There are some questionable dates, as some weren't specific dates. Please feel free to update/change or add to this. Think this will help in piecing things together.

1/15 TB last sees her niece at her house
3/12/15 MF last sees Bella at her birthday party
5/15? RB claims MM killed Bella & then hid in fridge
5/15? RB & MM spent days on heroin following murder
6/25/15 Body of Baby Doe found in bag on Deer Island
7/15? MF claims she contacted LE or DCF about Bella
7/20/15 85 Digital Billboards go up about Baby Doe
8/28/15? JA returns to Boston from Florida (few weeks prior?)
8/28/15? JA said RB said Bella was in Cape Cod
9/8/15? JA & PQ claimed they contacted LE or DCF about Bella
9/16/15? RB tells MS that MM killed Bella after much pressure
9/16/15 LS, MS sister contacts LE
9/17/15? RB told JA that MM murdered Bella & spent night at water
9/17/15 MS talks with investigators
9/17/15 RB's apt is searched
9/18/15 Baby Doe identified as Bella Bond
9/18/15 LE finds MM at hospital for minor surgery
9/18/15 RB & JA picked up at his mothers house
9/21/15 Rachell Bond & Michael McCarthy Arraignment
9/23/15 RB's apt searched again & K-9 brought in

When was MM admitted to the hospital & how did that happen??

Did RB go with JA to his mothers house because her apt was being searched?


RB Rachell Bond (mother)
JA Joseph Amoroso (bio dad)
PQ Patricia Quinn (JA's mother)
TB Tamera Bond (RB's sister)
MF Megan Fewtrell (godmother)
MM Michael McCarthy (boyfriend)
MS Michael Spinsky (MM's friend)
LS Laura Spinsky (MS's sister)

I looked up a few of the entries above to get links for the mods.

1/15 - TB last sees her niece at her house http://www.wcvb.com/news/bellas-aunt-never-made-connection-between-baby-doe-niece/35356582

3/12/15 - MF last sees Bella at her birthday party http://www.myajc.com/news/news/national/baby-bellas-godmother-claims-she-reached-out-polic/nnkTD/

And I'm sorry, but I had to stop looking and reading the links for awhile. It's getting to me.
 
I went through a bunch of articles to try to build a timeline. There are some questionable dates, as some weren't specific dates. Please feel free to update/change or add to this. Think this will help in piecing things together.

1/15 TB last sees her niece at her house
3/12/15 MF last sees Bella at her birthday party
5/15? RB claims MM killed Bella & then hid in fridge
5/15? RB & MM spent days on heroin following murder
6/25/15 Body of Baby Doe found in bag on Deer Island
7/15? MF claims she contacted LE or DCF about Bella
7/20/15 85 Digital Billboards go up about Baby Doe
8/28/15? JA returns to Boston from Florida (few weeks prior?)
8/28/15? JA said RB said Bella was in Cape Cod
9/8/15? JA & PQ claimed they contacted LE or DCF about Bella
9/16/15? RB tells MS that MM killed Bella after much pressure
9/16/15 LS, MS sister contacts LE
9/17/15? RB told JA that MM murdered Bella & spent night at water
9/17/15 MS talks with investigators
9/17/15 RB's apt is searched
9/18/15 Baby Doe identified as Bella Bond
9/18/15 LE finds MM at hospital for minor surgery
9/18/15 RB & JA picked up at his mothers house
9/21/15 Rachell Bond & Michael McCarthy Arraignment
9/23/15 RB's apt searched again & K-9 brought in

When was MM admitted to the hospital & how did that happen??

Did RB go with JA to his mothers house because her apt was being searched?


RB Rachell Bond (mother)
JA Joseph Amoroso (bio dad)
PQ Patricia Quinn (JA's mother)
TB Tamera Bond (RB's sister)
MF Megan Fewtrell (godmother)
MM Michael McCarthy (boyfriend)
MS Michael Spinsky (MM's friend)
LS Laura Spinsky (MS's sister)
Thank you for this detailed list BUF! You rock!
 
from the other thread:
Sonya610:

So if they checked the slides for evidence of freezing they wouldn't have said she died "recently" when they asked the public for help identifying the child, correct?

And if they didn't check for freezing would the body of a baby doe be stored below freezing temps to preserve potential evidence when it has been unidentified for 80 days?


My comment: (missed the closing thread door!):

The LE determined what material would be released to the public & when, as mentioned previously....the slides are reviewed some time after the body examination, information from the OCME is provided in an on-going basis to the lead investigator.


The body could be frozen (more for "containment" vs evidence per se as everything has been removed/organ samples too) or it could have been preserved for burial, I've seen both done.
 
RIP Sweet Bella. You have drawn a full crowd who want to see justice in your case.

I so appreciate Joypath's info and the timeline (with names/initials is extremely helpful)!
 
I went through a bunch of articles to try to build a timeline. There are some questionable dates, as some weren't specific dates. Please feel free to update/change or add to this. Think this will help in piecing things together.

1/15 TB last sees her niece at her house LINK
3/12/15 MF last sees Bella at her birthday party LINK
5/15? RB claims MM killed Bella & then hid in fridge
5/15? RB & MM spent days on heroin following murder
6/25/15 Body of Baby Doe found in bag on Deer Island LINK
7/15? MF claims she contacted LE or DCF about Bella
7/20/15 85 Digital Billboards go up about Baby Doe LINK
8/28/15? JA returns to Boston from Florida (few weeks prior?)
8/28/15? JA said RB said Bella was in Cape Cod LINK
9/8/15? JA & PQ claimed they contacted LE or DCF about Bella
9/16/15? RB tells MS that MM killed Bella after much pressure
9/16/15 LS, MS sister contacts LE
9/17/15? RB told JA that MM murdered Bella & spent night at water LINK [no specific date just end of week]
9/17/15 MS talks with investigators/police receive a tip LINK
9/17/15 RB's apt is searched LINK
9/18/15 Baby Doe identified as Bella Bond LINK
9/18/15 LE finds MM at hospital for minor surgery
9/18/15 RB & JA picked up at his mothers house
9/21/15 Rachell Bond & Michael McCarthy Arraignment LINK
9/23/15 RB's apt searched again & K-9 brought in

When was MM admitted to the hospital & how did that happen??

Did RB go with JA to his mothers house because her apt was being searched?


RB Rachell Bond (mother)
JA Joseph Amoroso (bio dad)
PQ Patricia Quinn (JA's mother)
TB Tamera Bond (RB's sister)
MF Megan Fewtrell (godmother)
MM Michael McCarthy (boyfriend)
MS Michael Spinsky (MM's friend)
LS Laura Spinsky (MS's sister)

Awesome timeline! Thank you!
During the arraignment the date 5/29 was mentioned. I didn't quite hear why Making it of no use to the timeline lol Thought I would mention it anyway, someone else may remember what it was.
 
I looked up a few of the entries above to get links for the mods.

1/15 - TB last sees her niece at her house http://www.wcvb.com/news/bellas-aunt-never-made-connection-between-baby-doe-niece/35356582

3/12/15 - MF last sees Bella at her birthday party http://www.myajc.com/news/news/national/baby-bellas-godmother-claims-she-reached-out-polic/nnkTD/

And I'm sorry, but I had to stop looking and reading the links for awhile. It's getting to me.

Thanks so much. I'm looking up links...wish I posted them while doing this!
 
Timeline is coming together pretty quickly. Some dates may stay tentative as they are based on second retellings of what RB said to various people.

Big thanks to BUF for starting it :D
 
Awesome timeline! Thank you!
During the arraignment the date 5/29 was mentioned. I didn't quite hear why Making it of no use to the timeline lol Thought I would mention it anyway, someone else may remember what it was.

Wasn't that MM's birthday, the night supposedly Bella was killed? Not sure!!!!
 
I looked up a few of the entries above to get links for the mods.

1/15 - TB last sees her niece at her house http://www.wcvb.com/news/bellas-aunt-never-made-connection-between-baby-doe-niece/35356582

3/12/15 - MF last sees Bella at her birthday party http://www.myajc.com/news/news/national/baby-bellas-godmother-claims-she-reached-out-polic/nnkTD/

And I'm sorry, but I had to stop looking and reading the links for awhile. It's getting to me.

bbm

It might be helpful to specify "MF last saw Bella at MF's birthday party" -- the "her" reference is unclear (most of us know that Bella's Bday is in Aug., but maybe not everyone does). The same for the "TB sees her niece at her house".
 
Timeline with links so far. Going out to dinner, will work on it later.


1/15 TB last sees her niece Bella at her (TB) house
http://m.wcvb.com/news/bellas-aunt-never-made-connection-between-baby-doe-niece/35356582

3/12/15 MF last sees Bella at Bella's birthday party
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/national/baby-bellas-godmother-claims-she-reached-out-polic/nnkTD/

5/15? RB claims MM killed Bella & then hid in fridge

5/15? RB & MM spent days on heroin following murder

5/29? (Someone posted from arraignment?)

6/25/15 Body of Baby Doe found in bag on Deer Island
http://m.wmur.com/news/timeline-from-baby-doe-to-bella/35392022

7/15? MF claims she contacted LE or DCF about Bell

7/20/15 85 Digital Billboards go up about Baby Doe
http://m.wmur.com/news/timeline-from-baby-doe-to-bella/35392022

8/28/15? JA returns to Boston from Florida (few weeks prior?)
http://www.nhregister.com/general-n...o-found-out-bostons-baby-doe-was-his-daughter

8/28/15? JA said RB said Bella was in Cape Cod
http://www.nhregister.com/general-n...o-found-out-bostons-baby-doe-was-his-daughter

9/8/15? JA & PQ claimed they contacted LE or DCF about Bella
http://www.nhregister.com/general-n...o-found-out-bostons-baby-doe-was-his-daughter

9/16/15? RB tells MS that MM killed Bella after much pressure
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...der-charges/LXL8d0kDGe4nCknfEwUPpJ/story.html

9/16/15 LS, MS sister contacts LE
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...der-charges/LXL8d0kDGe4nCknfEwUPpJ/story.html

9/16/15 RB told JA that MM murdered Bella & spent night at water
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...der-charges/LXL8d0kDGe4nCknfEwUPpJ/story.html

9/17/15 MS talks with investigators
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...der-charges/LXL8d0kDGe4nCknfEwUPpJ/story.html

9/17/15 RB's apt is searched
http://m.wmur.com/news/timeline-from-baby-doe-to-bella/35392022

9/18/15 Baby Doe identified as Bella Bond
http://m.wmur.com/news/timeline-from-baby-doe-to-bella/35392022

9/18/15 LE finds MM at hospital for minor surgery
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...der-charges/LXL8d0kDGe4nCknfEwUPpJ/story.html

9/18/15 RB & JA picked up at his mothers house
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...der-charges/LXL8d0kDGe4nCknfEwUPpJ/story.html

9/21/15 Rachell Bond & Michael McCarthy Arraignment
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...der-charges/LXL8d0kDGe4nCknfEwUPpJ/story.html

9/23/15 RB's apt searched again & K-9 brought in
Ted Daniel ‏@TedDanielFOX25
UPDATE: A police K-9 was just lead into the apartment in conjunction w/search warrant underway now


When was MM admitted to the hospital & how did that happen??

Did RB go with JA to his mothers house because her apt was being searched?


RB Rachell Bond (mother)
JA Joseph Amoroso (bio dad)
PQ Patricia Quinn (JA's mother)
TB Tamera Bond (RB's sister)
MF Megan Fewtrell (godmother)
MM Michael McCarthy (boyfriend)
MS Michael Spinsky (MM's friend)
LS Laura Spinsky (MS's sister)
 
Timeline with links so far. Going out to dinner, will work on it later.


1/15 TB last sees her niece Bella at her (TB) house
http://m.wcvb.com/news/bellas-aunt-never-made-connection-between-baby-doe-niece/35356582

3/12/15 MF last sees Bella at Bella's birthday party
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/national/baby-bellas-godmother-claims-she-reached-out-polic/nnkTD/

5/15? RB claims MM killed Bella & then hid in fridge

5/15? RB & MM spent days on heroin following murder

5/29? (Someone posted from arraignment?)

6/25/15 Body of Baby Doe found in bag on Deer Island
http://m.wmur.com/news/timeline-from-baby-doe-to-bella/35392022

7/15? MF claims she contacted LE or DCF about Bell

7/20/15 85 Digital Billboards go up about Baby Doe
http://m.wmur.com/news/timeline-from-baby-doe-to-bella/35392022

8/28/15? JA returns to Boston from Florida (few weeks prior?)
http://www.nhregister.com/general-n...o-found-out-bostons-baby-doe-was-his-daughter

8/28/15? JA said RB said Bella was in Cape Cod
http://www.nhregister.com/general-n...o-found-out-bostons-baby-doe-was-his-daughter

9/8/15? JA & PQ claimed they contacted LE or DCF about Bella
http://www.nhregister.com/general-n...o-found-out-bostons-baby-doe-was-his-daughter

9/16/15? RB tells MS that MM killed Bella after much pressure
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...der-charges/LXL8d0kDGe4nCknfEwUPpJ/story.html

9/16/15 LS, MS sister contacts LE
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...der-charges/LXL8d0kDGe4nCknfEwUPpJ/story.html

9/16/15 RB told JA that MM murdered Bella & spent night at water
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...der-charges/LXL8d0kDGe4nCknfEwUPpJ/story.html

9/17/15 MS talks with investigators
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...der-charges/LXL8d0kDGe4nCknfEwUPpJ/story.html

9/17/15 RB's apt is searched
http://m.wmur.com/news/timeline-from-baby-doe-to-bella/35392022

9/18/15 Baby Doe identified as Bella Bond
http://m.wmur.com/news/timeline-from-baby-doe-to-bella/35392022

9/18/15 LE finds MM at hospital for minor surgery
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...der-charges/LXL8d0kDGe4nCknfEwUPpJ/story.html

9/18/15 RB & JA picked up at his mothers house
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...der-charges/LXL8d0kDGe4nCknfEwUPpJ/story.html

9/21/15 Rachell Bond & Michael McCarthy Arraignment
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...der-charges/LXL8d0kDGe4nCknfEwUPpJ/story.html

9/23/15 RB's apt searched again & K-9 brought in
Ted Daniel ‏@TedDanielFOX25
UPDATE: A police K-9 was just lead into the apartment in conjunction w/search warrant underway now


When was MM admitted to the hospital & how did that happen??

Did RB go with JA to his mothers house because her apt was being searched?


RB Rachell Bond (mother)
JA Joseph Amoroso (bio dad)
PQ Patricia Quinn (JA's mother)
TB Tamera Bond (RB's sister)
MF Megan Fewtrell (godmother)
MM Michael McCarthy (boyfriend)
MS Michael Spinsky (MM's friend)
LS Laura Spinsky (MS's sister)

bbm

No, Bella's birthday was August 6. 3/12 had to be MF's birthday.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
155
Guests online
1,175
Total visitors
1,330

Forum statistics

Threads
589,939
Messages
17,927,956
Members
228,008
Latest member
redeworker
Back
Top