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    Principal Withholds Student Election Results for lack of Diversity

    San Francisco middle school principal withholds releasing election results because winners are not diverse enough

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...se-enough.html


    In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve. But Everett Middle School in San Francisco is not exactly a democracy, and Principal Lena Van Haren withheld publication of the results of a student council election because she didn’t like the outcome—too many of the winners were white.

    https://reason.com/blog/2015/10/20/s...student-counci


    Van Haren believes this social engineering can be a learning experience, but some parents say she is undermining the democratic process.

    http://www.opposingviews.com/i/socie...e-enough-video

    S.F. principal delays vote results, saying winners aren’t diverse

    http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...rs-6578286.php

    When San Francisco middle school principal Lena Van Haren saw which kids on her campus had been elected to the student council, she was disturbed at the lack of diversity among the winners.

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    Eighty percent of the children who attend Everett Middle School in the Mission District are students of color and Lena Van Haren was alarmed no Latino or black candidates were chosen for the top council spots.
    She also scheduled a meeting with all the student candidates to discuss ways to make the results more representative of the student body and brought up the possibility of adding new council positions, according to KTVU.

    The principal said: 'I'm very hopeful this can be a learning experience and actually be something that embodied our vision which is to help students make positive change.

    'We're not nullifying the election, we're not cancelling the election and we're not saying this didn't count.'
    I'm impressed she's jumping right in to deal with this. School is for learning.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...se-enough.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesneakers View Post
    I'm impressed she's jumping right in to deal with this. School is for learning.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...se-enough.html
    What exactly were they supposed to learn from this?
    Just my opinion

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    We have come full circle. Trying so hard to avoid racism and exclusion that the situation has become racist and exclusive. Good job, PC Principal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjenny View Post
    What exactly were they supposed to learn from this?
    The importance of diversity and representation in government. The benefits we gain by being inclusive. The value people have that goes beyond race and status. How to manage in the real world where they will encounter people who are different from them. Self-awareness.

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    Eighty percent of the students are of color, the students are who voted. Maybe the students have achieved color-blind status, and vote for who they like or who they think would do the best job.
    Reverse discrimination is discrimination. Get a lawyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesneakers View Post
    The importance of diversity and representation in government. The benefits we gain by being inclusive. The value people have that goes beyond race and status. How to manage in the real world where they will encounter people who are different from them. Self-awareness.
    How did they learn that, exactly? It's an election. You can vote for whoever you want to vote. Unless there are problems with the voting process (and there is no suggestion of that), they elected who they wanted.
    Just my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjenny View Post
    How did they learn that, exactly? It's an election. You can vote for whoever you want to vote. Unless there are problems with the voting process (and there is no suggestion of that), they elected who they wanted.
    This is what I'm referring to, and I agree with the principal:

    The principal said: 'I'm very hopeful this can be a learning experience and actually be something that embodied our vision which is to help students make positive change.
    The results are not being thrown out, simply addressed. Why would that be a problem? Why isn't okay to discuss diversity and representation and inclusiveness? If I were the principal I would want to address those issues after something like this, especially considering the way the vote went. If 80% of the student body is POC, why did they all vote for white kids? What's wrong with asking the question and ensuring students are treated fairly and have equal opportunities?

    This is an election in a school for the student body. No one is tossing the results and no government is being overthrown.

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    If she thinks racism is at play, here is what she needs to do: Hold a mock election where only the students of color vote. If they still vote for all white kids, hold some sort of "exit poll" with the students of color and ask them WHY they voted the way they did. I'm not really clear on what she thinks the mechanism at work here is....does she think white kids were threatening the minority kids or stuffing the ballot box?

    In my experience it's all a big popularity contest at that age anyway. My son is the whitest kid on earth and he never gets elected to anything because he's overweight and kids think he's a dork. Personally I think fat, dorky kids are underrepresented in student government, but no one gives a damn about that!

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    It sounds like the principal was unhappy with the results not the students. Instead of griping about election results, she should encourage kids from different races to run for office or maybe they did idk.

    I'm not sure what the teaching moment is - other than you should vote for people of your race - ridiculous.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CCmakes3 View Post
    If she thinks racism is at play, here is what she needs to do: Hold a mock election where only the students of color vote. If they still vote for all white kids, hold some sort of "exit poll" with the students of color and ask them WHY they voted the way they did. I'm not really clear on what she thinks the mechanism at work here is....does she think white kids were threatening the minority kids or stuffing the ballot box?

    In my experience it's all a big popularity contest at that age anyway. My son never gets elected to anything because he's overweight and kids think he's a dork. Personally I think fat, dorky kids are underrepresented in student government, but no one gives a damn about that!
    I don't think it's clear because she doesn't know what the reasons are, which is why she's doing what she's doing. I really don't see what the big deal about her noticing this and wanting to address it is.

    She's the principal and that's her job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesneakers View Post
    This is what I'm referring to, and I agree with the principal:



    The results are not being thrown out, simply addressed. Why would that be a problem? Why isn't okay to discuss diversity and representation and inclusiveness? If I were the principal I would want to address those issues after something like this, especially considering the way the vote went. If 80% of the student body is POC, why did they all vote for white kids? What's wrong with asking the question and ensuring students are treated fairly and have equal opportunities?

    This is an election in a school for the student body. No one is tossing the results and no government is being overthrown.
    Why did she have to withheld results in order to discuss whatever it is she wanted to discuss? It also appears she agreed to release results due to pressure from parents and district officials. And yes, I think that is a problem.
    Just my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by BayouBelle_LA View Post
    It sounds like the principal was unhappy with the results not the students. Instead of griping about election results, she should encourage kids from different races to run for office or maybe they did idk.

    I'm not sure what the teaching moment is - other than you should vote for people of your race - ridiculous.
    Who is saying that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesneakers View Post
    I don't think it's clear because she doesn't know what the reasons are, which is why she's doing what she's doing. I really don't see what the big deal about her noticing this and wanting to address it is.

    She's the principal and that's her job.
    Her job is to withed election results because they are not to her satisfaction? Why didn't she just appoint people to the positions? That's the only way to ensure that the students were of the race she deemed appropriate.
    Just my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesneakers View Post
    I don't think it's clear because she doesn't know what the reasons are, which is why she's doing what she's doing. I really don't see what the big deal about her noticing this and wanting to address it is.

    She's the principal and that's her job.
    I think by all means they should discuss it but I think she needs to let the election results go through as voted by the student body. Tell the newly elected officials that it is their job to convene a forum on this and generate suggestions.

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