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    AUS - Khandalyce Kiara Pearce (Wynarka) and mum Karlie Pearce-Stevenson (Belanglo) #3

    Wynarka suitcase murder victim identified as Khandalyce Kiara Pearce;
    her mother Karlie Pearce-Stevenson was also violently killed


    20 October 2015


    Khandalyce Kiara Pearce **************Karlie Jade Pearce-Stevenson

    THE little girl whose body was found in a suitcase near Wynarka has been identified as Khandalyce Kiara Pearce, born in Alice Springs in 2006.

    Her mother Karlie Jade Pearce-Stevenson was also brutally murdered, and dumped in Belanglo State Forest south of Sydney.

    A joint investigation into their deaths has now been launched by SAPOLís Major Crime Branch and the NSW Homicide Squad.

    The circumstances and place of the murders is yet to be determined, but they were last seen in late 2008 and Ms Pearce-Stevensonís skeletal remains were found in August 2010.

    SA and NSW police today revealed that the breakthrough began on October 8 when a caller to Crime Stoppers said Khandalyce was possibly the little girl in the suitcase. The caller had not seen Khandalyce or Ms Pearce-Stevenson for some time and believed they were missing.

    (more at the link)
    ARREST.

    Belanglo death: Detectives charge Karlie Jade Pearce-Stevenson acquaintance with murder

    OCTOBER 29, 2015 9:44AM

    DANIEL Holdom, 41, has appeared via video link at Maitland Court charged with the murder of Karlie Pearce-Stevenson.

    His bail was refused and he was remanded in custody to appear at Sydney Central Local Court on November 12.

    Police today have confirmed for the first time that ĎBelanglo Angelí Karlie, 20, was killed before her daughter Khandalyce.

    In a short press conference in Sydney this morning, police said Karlie was murdered between December 14 and 15, 2008, and that tragically her daughter was kept alive for some time after her murder.

    It comes after an acquaintance of Karlie was charged with her murder.

    The Daily Telegraph can reveal Daniel Holdom was taken into custody at Cessnock police station by homicide detectives at 4.15pm yesterday.

    He was charged with one count of murder late last night relating to the death of the 20-year-old mother ó but has not been charged over the murder of her two-year-old daughter Khandalyce.

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    Have Karlie and Khandalyce BOTH been seen in Canberra or just Karlie?
    Does anyone know if Karlie was pulled over at Coober Pedy heading toward Alice Springs? Or heading toward Adelaide?

    The reason I'm asking if Karlie possibly could have brought Khandalyce to someone in Alice springs before heading for Canberra by herself?

    And the odd thing in that case could be that it appears as if someone could have travelled back to collect Khandalyce.

    Sorry posting this in the new thread as well.

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    What would be the reason someone besides Karlie would continue to deposit money into her account, either AS Karlie or as themselves?

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    Reposting in new thread so this is not missed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian View Post

    I've had some thoughts after reading this thread over the past six weeks. This is what I've come up with. I'd be interested to read any constructive criticism. If any dates or places are incorrect, please let me know.

    Karlie may have already supplied documents to Centrelink verifying her identity before she was killed. The person posing as Karlie wouldn't need to show them at an interview. All other transactions and contact can be done by phone or on the internet. In any case, Karlie would probably be carrying identity documents with her if she was going to be working whilst away from home in Alice Springs.

    Maybe Karlie met up with her killer in Adelaide; even on the promise of working for them. After her murder, the KP Drilling Company may have been set up by Karlie's killer, using her identity documents, in order to apply for ever increasing loans from the credit union or other sources (maybe that's where the deposits due to fraud come in). Much easier to get a loan if you are a small business, after making even small, regular deposits, than it is if you receive Centrelink benefits. The multiple ATM withdrawals that were made in NT (and elsewhere) could have been connected with a person who has a truck-mounted (or towed) portable rig used to drill for bore water.

    Maybe the stop in Mount Gambier was to pick someone else up on the way to Canberra, possibly the person who lived in Charnwood and who was known to Karlie and/or her killer. Or just to visit family living there.

    Karlie was probably killed sometime just before Christmas in 2008, around the time she withdrew money from the ATM in Charnwood. Either she went willingly with her killer toward Sydney and was killed in Belanglo State Forest or she could have been killed shortly before (maybe even at the Charnwood house.) As to the killer's motives for killing her at that time, I have no clue.

    As for little Khandalyce, maybe she was left in Canberra whilst Karlie went on her final trip. The killer returned and took Khandalyce back to Adelaide, with or without an excuse as to why Karlie hadn't returned with them. There are many possibilities as to why Khandalyce may have been murdered. She may have been considered of no use to her mother's killer, her murder was due to violent abuse or to control someone else with her remains being used as a reminder of their own tenuous grip on life. Maybe Khandalyce's remains were moved once the Angel's killer was incarcerated or the other party finally managed to escape. Or the killer got rid of Khandalyce's remains when they moved away or her mother's remains were found (ie, there was a risk that the jig would be up).

    I wonder if this person has preyed upon other young women before Karlie, with or without children such as Khandalyce, and this time just saw a chance to take advantage of them even after their deaths at their hand. A very disturbed individual, not to mention the people who were accessories.

    Sorry this post is so long, the cogs in my brain turn slowly.
    Also, what do people think about the person in the wheelchair at the bank, the ATM withdrawals/EFTPOS purchases at the pain clinic (another poster mentioned in the last thread) and the person who posed as Karlie at Centrelink? Part of another scam as they were receiving social security or other income in their own name? Their relationship to Karlie's and Khandalyce's killer?

    Again, sorry for the length of this post. Too much reading and thinking beforehand.
    Last edited by Bohemian; 10-27-2015 at 12:06 PM. Reason: clarification of idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTF14 View Post
    What would be the reason someone besides Karlie would continue to deposit money into her account, either AS Karlie or as themselves?
    They may have wanted to hide income they were getting from other sources. If they deposited money into their own accounts and couldn't explain where it came from, there's a chance they could have been investigated by the ATO etc. Depositing money into Karlie's account was a safer option. If anyone questioned where the money was coming from in Karlie's account, the fraudsters could have just cut their losses and moved on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTF14 View Post
    What would be the reason someone besides Karlie would continue to deposit money into her account, either AS Karlie or as themselves?
    A large amount of money that went into her account that was wages from a person ....... wages kind of implies with some regularity.
    Maybe a person was being blackmailed.

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    Police say murder victim Karlie Pearce-Stevenson's bank account was used more than 1,200 times after she disappeared in 2008.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-2...tivity/6890008

    Bank account was used 1200 times .... would that be withdrawals, eftpos etc or would it also include deposits?

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    Fraudster fooled Karlie's Mum

    The Australian
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    3 hours ago

    Paraphrased (article behind paywall) at:

    http://m.theaustralian.com.au/subscr...type=anonymous

    Additional information to that already published:

    Article reports that 'a woman made a series of phone calls to Karlie's mother, impersonating Karlie, repeatedly asking for money to be deposited into Karlie's bank account, after Karlie was dead.'

    So Karlie's Mum passed away in 2012 and Karlie's bank account ceased to be used around that time? They'd been using it to scam money from Karlie's Mum for about 3 years after Karlie was killed? These people must have no conscience whatsoever IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sosocurious View Post
    Police say murder victim Karlie Pearce-Stevenson's bank account was used more than 1,200 times after she disappeared in 2008.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-2...tivity/6890008

    Bank account was used 1200 times .... would that be withdrawals, eftpos etc or would it also include deposits?
    My own maths is as bad as Puggle's, but that must be pretty much every day that the account was used.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian View Post
    Fraudster fooled Karlie's Mum

    The Australian
    Meredith Booth & Dan Box
    3 hours ago

    Paraphrased (article behind paywall) at:

    http://m.theaustralian.com.au/subscr...type=anonymous

    Additional information to that already published:

    Article reports that 'a woman made a series of phone calls to Karlie's mother, impersonating Karlie, repeatedly asking for money to be deposited into Karlie's bank account, after Karlie was dead.'

    So Karlie's Mum passed away in 2012 and Karlie's bank account ceased to be used around that time? They'd been using it to scam money from Karlie's Mum for about 3 years after Karlie was killed? These people must have no conscience whatsoever IMO.
    How on earth do you fool a mother into thinking she's speaking to her own daughter???
    She must have sounded like her, known an awful lot about her etc.

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    And what also doesn't make any sense, is that friends set up a facebook site for finding Karlie so she could talk to her dying mother. While the mother 'was in contact with Karlie' ?

    That's just crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sosocurious View Post
    A large amount of money that went into her account that was wages from a person ....... wages kind of implies with some regularity.
    Maybe a person was being blackmailed.
    How does that work in Austrlia. How do you put wages of someone into a bank account. Does the company that employs a person make a digital payment to that persons account? And thus most likely have ID and personal data of that person (being the employer)? Can you go to a bank and make a deposit to someone's bankaccount?

    What are the options?

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    I tried to stay up last night to see what they were going to say, kinda glad I didn't make it because I would have been up all night angry.

    What kind of person can not only kill a mother and young child and then continue to scam the poor mother/grandmother for more money? That is beyond heartless. That is soulless.

    And the fact they were killed separately? Just awful.

    Could someone have killed them and then "sold" her id/info to another person?
    'Every life has a measure of sorrow, and sometimes this is what awakens us.' - Steven Tyler

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    I'm not sure it's been said they scammed the mother for three years. So maybe that was only in the beginning and they started to think it was too risky hence why the Facebook account was set up.
    'Every life has a measure of sorrow, and sometimes this is what awakens us.' - Steven Tyler

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