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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by bessie View Post
    He thought that he saw the lights from the Richmond ball park in Munson Twp. The car stopped shortly after they passed the ball park. He looked out and thought he could see lights from the City of Richmond.

    Page 49 of the pdf.

    http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/8045...-Optimized.pdf
    Doesn't mean much, but I note on page 53 of pdf linked by Bessie, DJH adamantly denied involvement in JS' case when arrested in Feb 1990. Obviously, DNA proved that a lie 25 years later. Makes me take with a grain of salt his denials of involvement in the JEW case now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MotherOcean View Post
    If Jared was indeed assaulted on a farm, and I am almost certain that he was, then that is another commonality with Jacob's abduction; it being on the driveway of DR's farm. That always stuck in my mind as a coincidence. That's why I remembered it. But, I am not familiar with the local area, so I figured there are many farms there. But, if there are not all that many, then perhaps DJH was aware that there was a farm at the end of DR's drive-way. I have to wonder if there is a connection between DJH and the Rassier family. Maybe DJH thought that DR had gone overseas with his parents. Could he have thought that no one was at the farm? But, I doubt he would be that brazen... to attempt to both abduct and assault in the same property. He knew there were witnesses so he certainly wanted to flee the area quickly. But, it is a coincidence nonetheless.
    In trying to triangulate what we *do* know, the DR property is a bit greater than a 15 minute drive from Cold Spring, and very far from Richmond Ball Park. I think there is enough here to do a physical search. I've located the general area JS was talking about, within a radius of just a few hundred meters. What is needed is a map of the area from 1989 showing all gravel roads at that time. Once that is in hand, a physical search could be done and it would be pretty targeted. Just looking at a map like that could provide clues.
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    I tried following the path that Jared said he thought they took. If I found the correct baseball diamond that he spoke of, there is a farm near it. There's also what looks like some sort of gravel pit next to the farm. I'm not sure if the gravel pit was there during that time. The farm definitely looks old enough to have been around back then. Even now there is a large area that doesn't have much built on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodester413 View Post
    I tried following the path that Jared said he thought they took. If I found the correct baseball diamond that he spoke of, there is a farm near it. There's also what looks like some sort of gravel pit next to the farm. I'm not sure if the gravel pit was there during that time. The farm definitely looks old enough to have been around back then. Even now there is a large area that doesn't have much built on it.
    Yes, saw that also, but then wasn't sure when I realized we don't know what was gravel in 1989. Some of those roads could be paved now. Nonetheless, it does narrow it down because his last position was right between Richmond and a body of water, so not many other places to go. It really is a fairly small area.
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    Does anyone have a link to verify that Jared was assaulted on or near a farm? I ask because I can't track one down but I am very certain that i have read that reported, not just rumored, in the past. It stuck in my mind because I know that DR has a farm. Not saying it was DR's farm. Just that the coincidence stuck in my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MotherOcean View Post
    Does anyone have a link to verify that Jared was assaulted on or near a farm? I ask because I can't track one down but I am very certain that i have read that reported, not just rumored, in the past. It stuck in my mind because I know that DR has a farm. Not saying it was DR's farm. Just that the coincidence stuck in my mind.
    Agreed, I heard the same and also remember hearing something about grain silos, but don't know where the source is. Be good to clear that up.
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    Coincidence in Wetterling Case
    http://archive.kare11.com/news/news_...?storyid=63324

    snipped ----

    "In the days after Wetterling disappeared, investigators took Jared to car lots to try to identify the make of model of his abductor's car.

    They also drove him around at night, trying to trace his abductor's route.

    Jared was finally able to lead authorities to the right location when he recognized a distinctive light at a nearby farm.

    "Where you see the silo there, there was a distinguished light I remember from that night while I was looking out the window," Jared recalled. "

    OK, this says a farm was nearby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MotherOcean View Post
    Coincidence in Wetterling Case
    http://archive.kare11.com/news/news_...?storyid=63324

    snipped ----

    "In the days after Wetterling disappeared, investigators took Jared to car lots to try to identify the make of model of his abductor's car.

    They also drove him around at night, trying to trace his abductor's route.

    Jared was finally able to lead authorities to the right location when he recognized a distinctive light at a nearby farm.

    "Where you see the silo there, there was a distinguished light I remember from that night while I was looking out the window," Jared recalled. "

    OK, this says a farm was nearby.
    Then I think the exact location of his assault can be determined. I say this because we know it was a gravel road and a very short distance from the Richmond Ball Park. We now know a farm light and grain silo were nearby. I would also point out that it appears to be only one grain silo. He could see the Richmond city lights from there, so the location was most likely on the west side of Richmond. More than enough. I'll start looking.
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    Here's a site I refer to pretty often. It takes some patience to search, especially if you don't have a large display screen. The image at the link is an aerial of Richmond, MN from 1991. Later versions are available.

    http://historicaerials.com:?layer=19....5388984680175
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    This turns out to be a very unique property. I've only been able to find one property that meets all these criteria. I used current aerial and 1991 aerial maps to compare.
    1. Today the drive is paved. In 1991 it was gravel.
    2. It has a line of sight across open fields to the city lights of Richmond.
    3. It is approximately 1 mile west of the Richmond ball park. It had a pond beside it in 1991 that is filled now.
    4. It had only one grain silo in 1991. Today it is still there but is missing its roof.
    5. In 1991 it had a pole light over the property.
    6. The vantage point from where the assault would have occurred to the silo is about 100 meters.
    7. It was a farm property but not clear if it is anymore.
    8. It is rural, even today
    I'll keep looking for any more, but haven't found any other candidates so far. It's coordinates are:
    Munson Township, MN
    45.435867, -94.572999
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    I think all the locals know the exact location and I belief it was even stated on a previous thread where the exact location was.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nmogren View Post
    I think all the locals know the exact location and I belief it was even stated on a previous thread where the exact location was.


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    Based on the Kare 11 report I suspected as much but haven't found a link or source.
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    It's way back in one of the many JW threads.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bodester413 View Post
    I wonder where the National Guard trained during that time frame? In one police interview Heinrich said he didn't remember what he was doing on that Sunday, but most Sundays he just drove around town or rented and watched a movie. I wonder if records are still around that show if the Willmar guard trained that weekend?

    http://www.startribune.com/what-we-k...h/338508931/#1

    The link above said this:

    Heinrich served as a specialist in the Minnesota National Guard out of Willmar from February 1982 until Nov. 24, 1991, when he was discharged under honorable conditions, according to the Minnesota National Guard. (Although the National Guard was part of the Wetterling search in 1989, it is unknown whether Heinrich was involved in the search.

    Maybe his time training would have enabled him to find out of the way areas?
    Maybe he drove all the way to the St. Joe Tom Thumb to rent a movie...
    He probably was involved in the search too. Gross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmogren View Post
    It's way back in one of the many JW threads.


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    Well, just searched again with different terms and no luck. All I've found is a report from the Star Tribune that he was taken "5 miles" to some place "north of Richmond". I've probably read all these JEW threads and I don't recall an exact location being mentioned. Is there some search term I'm missing?
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