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    It was very cold this AM (19 degrees) , but now it's 42 degrees- beautiful sunny day
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    Update on murderer's appeal:

    174. 24-Nov-2015 ORDERED: State's Response to Motion to Enforce Protective Order re: Superior Court Ordering Items Unsealed (Appellee)=
    GRANTED/Extending the time in which to file a reply to and including 11/20/15. Hon Randall M Howe - Author

    http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/aacc...partyindex.htm
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    Will Scott Peterson conviction be thrown out? (with clip)
    Convicted for murder of wife, unborn child in 2005


    "...The petitions claims a juror lied on her application and should never have been in the courtroom in the first place.

    “One of the jurors evidently lied on her jury application. She said she’s never been involved in a lawsuit. She’d never testified as a witness. Both those things are not true,” Janey Peterson said..."

    http://www.10news.com/news/will-scot...own-out-112415

    WS thread: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...sentence/page3
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    Supreme Court Tosses St. Louis Murder Convictions for Man on Death Row

    "ST. LOUIS (KMOX) – The Missouri Supreme Court has overturned the first-degree murder convictions and the death sentence for one of four men convicted of raping two sisters and throwing them to their death from an abandoned Mississippi River bridge in St. Louis 24 years ago.

    The court’s 4-3 ruling on Tuesday sends Reginald Clemons’ case back to circuit court, and gives the state 60 days to either seek a retrial or allow charges to be dismissed..."

    http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/11/...deaths-tossed/

    WS thread: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ginald-Clemons
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    8-year-old Troy girl killed when she loses control of car she was driving

    "An 8-year-old girl who was behind the wheel of a car — with her grandfather in a passenger seat — was killed Sunday afternoon when she lost control of the vehicle and crashed in Doniphan County.

    The Kansas Highway Patrol identified the young victim as Cadence Orcutt, of Troy...

    Cadence, who the patrol said wasn’t wearing a seat belt, was pronounced dead at the scene..."

    http://cjonline.com/news/2015-11-23/...he-was-driving
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    California man charged with child's decade-delayed death

    "SANTA ANA, Calif. (AP) — A Southern California jail inmate who abused a baby girl was charged with murder Tuesday over her death a decade later from "shaken baby syndrome."

    Christopher Edward Byrd, 39, already had served time after pleading guilty to child abuse. But the Jan. 17 death of Savannah Quake left him open to new charges of murder and child assault causing death, City News Service reported...

    Prosecutors say Byrd violently shook 11-month-old Savannah in January 2005 at the home he shared with her mother in La Habra. The mother had left the child in his care for several hours..."

    http://www.thereporter.com/general-n...-delayed-death
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    The Philip Chism Trial Day 5: The Jury Has Excellent Fashion Sense Edition

    http://reallybigmeandog.com/2015/11/...sense-edition/
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    Thanks for the new thread!!

    Good morning! Smile and have a great day. Be thankful everyday and just make the most of each day

    Busy, busy, busy this weekend. Taking fall decorations down and putting up Christmas I LOVE Christmas!

    Hope ya'll had a great Thanksgiving yesterday, I know I did
    Be still and know that I am GOD. Psalm 46:10

    Don't judge others or let people bother you!

    Smile and have a blessed day!

    Dottie Rambo - Sheltered In The Arms Of God
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    Squeakers wants to know why Charlie (the cat) is using his water bowl. Charlie is easily three times the size of the dog and is not amused or impressed with him. At daughters house yesterday. The cat just weighs 19 lbs! He is a Maine Coon.
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    Be still and know that I am GOD. Psalm 46:10

    Don't judge others or let people bother you!

    Smile and have a blessed day!

    Dottie Rambo - Sheltered In The Arms Of God
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    The movie The Hiding Place is on TBN right now. If you record it, you should be able to see it in it's entirety later.

    Great movie about a gentile family that hides Jewish people during the Holocaust.

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    Beautiful sunny day and 64 degrees

    Still recovering from the food coma from Thanksgiving dinner

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    L. Kirk Nurmi ‏@_nurmilaw Nov 24
    L. Kirk Nurmi Retweeted MaryEllen Resendez

    Enjoyed my time with @maryellenabc15 and I hope you enjoy the interview #jodiarias # msarias L. Kirk Nurmi added,
    MaryEllen Resendez @maryellenabc15
    Hey peeps here's the link 2 our intvw w/Fmr #JodiArias Atty Kirk Nurmi on his book "Trapped w/ Ms Arias" http://tinyurl.com/n9al6qq #abc15

    L. Kirk Nurmi ‏@_nurmilaw Nov 24
    L. Kirk Nurmi Retweeted Jarrett Seltzer

    Destined to be a holiday classic! L. Kirk Nurmi added,
    Jarrett Seltzer @JarrettSeltzer
    I will be live with @_nurmilaw discussing his newest book on Tuesday Dec 1st @ http://TrialTalkLike.com - live questions and chat as well
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    L. Kirk Nurmi ‏@_nurmilaw 15h15 hours ago
    Thanks to @David_Lohr for his great article. I'm flattered to have been featured in the #huffingtonpost #jodiarias

    Jodi Arias Ex-Lawyer Blasts Convicted Murderer's 'Sexual Escapades'
    Kirk Nurmi dishes the dirt on Arias in tell-all book.


    "Jodi Arias' former lawyer, Kirk Nurmi, writes in his newly released book that he was forced to represent a manipulative and intimidating client who was sexually inappropriate and "very disturbed."...

    Nurmi details in the book his own theory of what happened inside Alexander's home the night he was killed – a theory, he acknowledges, not everyone might agree with.
    "My book is really for people that are open to having what they think about the case challenged a little bit," he said. "It's for those who are open to hearing a different perspective. Those who want their beliefs [reinforced] may not find much of an interest in it."...

    "The second book will cover the first trial," he said. "I'm calling it 'From Trial To Mistrial.' The third book will cover everything beyond that." "

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b28189cfad?nge
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    And from our "favorite" reporter:

    Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer Nov 18
    Arias creepers. The case is over. The girl is in prison for a long time. Get a life.
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    Donnis Musgrove dies on Alabama's death row still trying to clear his name over 30-year-old murder

    "...A lawyer for Donnis Musgrove, said the 67-year-old had died at the Donaldson correctional facility in Bessemer, Alabama, on Wednesday night.

    Lawyer Cissy Jackson said she had been working with the convicted man for a number of years and told the Associated Press she was sad her client had not lived long enough to see his name cleared. He had been suffering from lung cancer...

    Musgrove had been convicted and sentenced to death with another man, David Rogers, for the shooting of Coy Barron in 1986...."

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6750606.html
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    Human remains found in a rural area of Houston believed to belong to 15-year-old girl who went missing 25 years ago
    The remains are thought to belong to 15-year-old Rosemary Diaz
    Diaz went missing in 1990 from a general store where she worked


    "...investigators had few leads. They were told that Diaz had been threatened by some teen boys she identified as bragging at school about allegedly stealing beer from the store - but this turned out to be a dead-end.

    For over two decades, there was no information in the case, when, just a few months ago, investigators were given a tip-off..."

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-25-years.html



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    Prosecutors appeal order on Sandusky accuser's complaint

    "STATE COLLEGE, Pa. | Pennsylvania prosecutors are appealing a judge's order that they review a man's claims he was molested as a 16-year-old by former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky.

    The attorney general's office filed a notice of appeal Tuesday, challenging an Oct. 28 decision by a county judge that the statute of limitations hasn't expired on filing criminal charges.

    The judge's order requires prosecutors to re-evaluate the case to see whether the allegations meet a minimum standard for filing charges..."

    http://onlineathens.com/national-new...sers-complaint
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    Penn State Could Face Claims From Six More Alleged Jerry Sandusky Victims (with clip)

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...ndusky-n469766
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    Suspect held for beating, burning man, 91

    "DETROIT — A Detroit man who lives next to the home where a 91-year-old was found beaten and burned, said he, along with other family members, took his grandson to police.

    “We turned him in,” said George Stewart Jr., adding he hopes and prays his 17-year-old grandson had nothing to do with the crime.

    Paul Monchnik, a retired TV repairman, was found dead in his home in the 20500 block of Bentler Court around 3 a.m. Monday.

    Monchnik had been doused with gasoline and he and his home, near 8 Mile and Lahser on the city’s west side, were set on fire, police said..."

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...n-91/76345500/
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    Kentucky Governor Restores Voting Rights to Thousands of Felons

    "Weeks before he leaves office, the governor of Kentucky on Tuesday issued an executive order that immediately granted the right to vote to about 140,000 nonviolent felons who have completed their sentences.

    The order by Gov. Steven L. Beshear, a Democrat, was cheered by advocates for criminal justice reform and civil rights, who said it would place Kentucky’s policy more in line with others across the nation and was consistent with a trend toward easing voting restrictions on former inmates.

    Kentucky had been one of just three states imposing a lifetime voting ban on felons unless they received a special exemption from the governor. Florida and Iowa still carry the lifetime ban..."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/us...s&emc=rss&_r=1
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    Two Hours Into Deliberations, a Juror in the Sheldon Silver Trial Wants Out

    "Not long after jurors convened on Tuesday to decide whether Assemblyman Sheldon Silver, once one of the most powerful politicians in New York State, was guilty of fraud, there were already unmistakable signs that their deliberations had taken a contentious turn.

    “I am wondering if there is anyway I can be excused from this case, because I have a different opinion/view so far in this case and it is making me feel very, very uncomfortable.”.."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/ny...smtyp=cur&_r=0
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    Why you might be seeing a lot less Nancy Grace on HLN

    "The network that brought the nation Casey Anthony and Nancy Grace is about to undergo another makeover.

    After veering from trial coverage to viral videos, HLN, formerly Headline News, will look more like sister news network CNN and less like a social media experiment.

    CNN boss Jeff Zucker said HLN would become more closely allied with CNN’s own content, likely running its library of documentaries, according to a memo to staffers on Tuesday that announced the exit of HLN chief Albie Hecht..."

    http://nypost.com/2015/11/24/why-you...-grace-on-hln/
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    How To Tell If You Ate Too Much On Thanksgiving, In One Chart

    "...But fear not: We've created this handy essential guide that breaks down whether or not you ate too much at the Thanksgiving table and provides a simple solution. Check it out below:..."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...ushpmg00000003
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    How Leftover Turkey Launched The TV Dinner

    "In the fall of 1953, the frozen-food company of C.A. Swanson & Sons of Omaha, Nebraska, was left with what must be a record in turkey leftovers: ten railroad cars packed with 520,000 pounds of turkey...."

    http://theplate.nationalgeographic.c...the-tv-dinner/
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    Ten (10) Things I know about you.

    1) You are reading this.

    2) You are human.

    3) You can't say the letter ''P'' without separating your lips.

    4) You just attempted to do it.

    6) You are laughing at yourself.

    7) You have a smile on your face and you skipped No. 5.

    8) You just checked to see if there is a No. 5.

    9) You laugh at this because you are a fun loving person & everyone does it too.

    10) You are probably going to send this to see who else falls for it
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    Let us be kind to one another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle. - Ian MacLaren

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    Squirrel and his nut

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    Trapped with Ms. Arias

    Chapter 16
    The Letters


    (that Ta "suppositly" wrote to the murderer)

    State kept them out of evidence (after a hearing)

    received "The Letters" April, 2010 by email from " a person named 'Bob White' "

    subject of email: "you might be interested in these"- contained attachment which contained 10 letters in PDF form (appeared to be scanned copies of original or scans of a copy)

    after verdict and before sentencing murderer released letters on her fan page

    letters contained admissions by TA "about his sexual interest in children and in particular his sexual interest in the son of his friends Chris and Sky Hughes...and apologies from 'Mr. Alexander' for breaking Ms Arias' finger" (pg 87)

    discussed with his team
    and the murderer: "Why would Mr. Alexander hand write letters and mail them to you when you corresponded so much via computer?"- can't divulge her answer- client confidentiality

    "Who is Bob White and how did this person get these letters? I didn't realize it at the time but my efforts to answer the latter question through my own investigation was the moment in time that served as a beginning of the end of the relatively harmonious relationship I had with Ms. Arias." (pg. 88)

    couldn't ignore letters- investigate, if real, would use them in court- "duty-bound" as her atty to

    needed to know who Bob White was and get original copies for handwriting expert to authenticate- needed originals

    L had questions for the murderer: where did the murderer last see the originals? where stored? who could have found them?

    knew the answers- they are privilege info

    analysis of letters were not privileged tho'- the murderer allowed him to tell Shy Hughes of results and gave report to State

    his expert said it "was highly probable", highest level of proof in handwriting analysis, that TA wrote them , but really needed the originals to confirm authenticity
    if they were confirmed as fake by his expert, they "never would have seen the light of day"

    "With the 'highly probable' analysis in hand I decided to disclose the letters to the State because at the time it was my intent to use them at trial as the content supported
    Ms. Arias' claim of physical abuse and her claim that Mr. Alexander has a sexual interest in young children"
    (pg. 88)

    L felt that Chris/Sky Hughes should see 1 letter before "the world" did because of the sexual interest in their son- to learn in the privacy of home

    Sky is claiming that L claimed he had absolute proof that letters were genuine

    Sky claiming "I disclosed this letter to her so that she and her husband would testify for the defense. Let me clear that neither of these claims reflect my true motivations for sending the letter to her" (pg. 89)

    because Shy was "understandably emotional" when she saw letter- L does not blame her "for recalling that I claimed to have absolute proof" that TA wrote them
    what L "actually said was that the analysis performed was as close to absolute proof as the field of handwriting analysis can offer"

    L states that he doesn't understand the claim that he wanted to "trick her or induce her into testifying for the defense. I am not sure why she feels as if she can read my mind and thus know my intentions"

    L's intentions: that the Hughes wouldn't hear/see the letters for the 1st time at the trial

    Sky sent a follow-up email to him in response where she "expressed the fact that she knew Mr. Alexander had problems but not to this extent"

    L didn't reply to her email to find out TA's problems

    what the Hughes have said publicly: "I have yet to hear Ms. Hughes discuss how grateful she was at the time that i sent the letter to her and how that at no time did I ask her to testify for the defense" (pg, 90)

    L explained to Sky , to calm her, that this didn't mean that TA actually "touched her son" and "perhaps" they should talk to her son/seek counseling

    L said that Sky sent him email stating that she knew TA had problems "but she was unaware that he was dealing with this issue"

    L said if he wanted Sky as a witness he could have call her as one- did not need her permission

    "At the time I spoke to Ms. Hughes, I had no reason to believe that Mr. Alexander did not write the letters....expert had said that it was 'highly probable' that Mr. Alexander was the author"

    later L became suspicious about letters when he received more info ( the murderer's cell was searched- pens were found- against rules- 3x5 cards were found with handwriting on them)

    State said handwriting "was an attempt to stimulate the hand writing of" TA- L didn't understand conclusion "sounds more like mind reading than handwriting analysis but... it would have been his testimony and the link would be obvious" that the murderer wrote the letters

    L wondered how she write them, get them out of jail, and have emailed to him (everything she sent out was inspected/phone calls were all recorded) - reviewed TA's journals? "still tuff"

    once cards were found, L believed that murderer wrote the letters

    wouldn't be hard for the State to convince the jury that she did- as a way to "defame" TA

    "Once [the jury] convinced that Ms. Arias wrote these letters to defame Mr. Alexander the jury would then have yet another reason to detest Ms. Arias and the more they detested Ms. Arias the more motivated they would be to sentence her to death" (pg. 92)

    L wonders if the State could prove that letters were forgery? concluded- "they could not"- States expert could not because the letters were copies- just could give opinion- State wanted them "excluded"

    L thinks this was mistake- State could have convinced jury that they were forged- " I believe if they had Ms. Arias would be on death row as you read this"
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    Chapter 17
    The Phone Sex Tapes


    the murderer lost her Helio phone- stolen from her grandfather's car in Yreka, Spring 2008

    (Gus Searcy gave her new one)

    2010- phone found by family member- not stolen, but lost in car

    L had phone sent to his investigator and to computer expert- recover evidence from phone

    no nude pics on phone

    "What I got was unbelievable"

    "This was a recording of a conversation Mr. Alexander had with Ms. Arias, the woman who would wind up killing him within a month of having this conversation with him"

    L thought would provide "insight into the relationship.. just before the killing took place"

    L also received notes on phone conversations

    talk was about "mundane things" in beginning (traveling, business, etc)- TA said he had intentions to visit the murderer in Yreka ("Does one visit their crazy ex-girlfriend who is stalking them?")

    their conversation-talked about Abe -"someone who likely dated" the murderer and kissed her- TA not happy- Ta wanted to "whip Abe's 'A'" because kissed "his girlfriend"

    "The fact that Ms. Arias was not Mr. Alexander's girlfriend at the time of the kiss didn't seem to matter to Mr. Alexander"

    this part of "the sex tape" was very important to L

    "..because it told me that Mr. Alexander seemingly had a violent streak because he had expressed a desire to be violent with Abe."

    L thought- " He was either a jealous person when it came to Ms. Arias or he viewed her as a possession, perhaps both were true."

    conversation went to sex- went from "mild argument about Abe to talking about sex in graphic terms." (pg. 96)- L was shocked

    L talking about "howling"- "F***fest"- reminded him 1982 movie "Porky's"

    TA said something in tape unbelievable to L- "He said that Ms. Arias' orgasm sounded like a 12 year old girl having her first orgasm...Ms. Arias was shocked as well"- then "Mr. Alexander repeated himself" and then said "something to the effect of 'it was like corking the pot of a 12 year old' "

    L said, before trial, before everyone hated the murderer, "What would you think if you heard Mr. Alexander saying this on tape before he had been killed?... about anyone who said this? Would you think they were a pedophile?"

    L talks about Jared Foggle - woman reported that he made similar comments to her

    "If someone made these comments to you would you let them be alone with your daughter?"

    "facts are stubborn things"

    "It is a fact that Mr. Alexander said these things on tape."

    L had voice on tape verified that it TA and the murderer talking

    L said he had the tape (evidence) "that supported Ms. Arias' contention that Mr. Alexander had a sexual interest in children...exhibited some violent tendencies." (pg. 97)
    evidence that "had to be used, regardless of who it upset."

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    Next:

    Chapter 18
    Learning more about Mr. Alexander

    Chapter 19
    Ms. Arias' Jail Calls

    Chapter 20
    Ms. Arias' "Ninja Story"
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    Morning!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zuri
    Niner, I am so glad for you that your daughter checked your profile. Maybe it doesn't mean anything, but at least she can find out all her birth mom has done and accomplished. You are as lovely as the day is long with an incredible spirit. I know I feel blessed, as many others that post here feel, to experience your wit and joi de vivre that you bring.
    You are too kind... and I had to look that up "joi (joie) de vivre" = "exuberant enjoyment of life". Yes I do! We only live once!!

    Hi Mollyandme! Long time no see!

    Sorry to hear about your cousin!

    Yes, I too think of Travis when I see elephants!

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    KateB!!

    I'm here at the "look" on Squeaky's face!! LOL! And I too LOVE Christmas!!
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    The movie The Hiding Place is on TBN right now. If you record it, you should be able to see it in it's entirety later.

    Great movie about a gentile family that hides Jewish people during the Holocaust.
    Thanks Daisymae - I just searched for that, and it's playing right now, with only 1/2 hour to go - I'll have the Huz download it for me! It's nice to see you posting!

    Quote Originally Posted by YESorNO
    Ten (10) Things I know about you.

    1) You are reading this.

    2) You are human.

    3) You can't say the letter ''P'' without separating your lips.

    4) You just attempted to do it.

    6) You are laughing at yourself.

    7) You have a smile on your face and you skipped No. 5.

    8) You just checked to see if there is a No. 5.

    9) You laugh at this because you are a fun loving person & everyone does it too.

    10) You are probably going to send this to see who else falls for it
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    Okay - have to stop here, as I have to go grocery shopping and other errands!

    Have more comments on some posts here and jokes from my Reader's Digest for you all!

    Will be back later!

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    Happy Black Friday! I just ate again!!
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    Posting some takeaways from "Our Friend Travis" by the Hughes.

    The book is dedicated to Detective Flores and in memory of Travis and Detective Flores' son, Tony.

    Book describes overview of crime/trial.
    Travis' early years of growing up poor, dirty, abused by his mother, Grandpa Vic's words that stayed with him his entire life. His dad Gary had cleaned up his act and was attending church. He was killed in a motorcycle accident while Travis was serving his mission in Northern Colorado. Travis went home to bury his dad and went right back to his mission. Travis considered himself an introvert before joining the LDS Church when he was 16. He often ate alone in the school library. Before moving in with his grandmother, food was scarce, his clothes were dirty. He lived with his mother and siblings in a very, very small trailer shell in the backyard of one of his relatives. There was stagnant water in the yard and muddy so he was extra dirty. Kids made fun of him as he had lice, smelled bad, and had ill fitting clothes. Because of this, he always wanted to look his best so he bought custom suits and ties later on when he became successful at PPL.

    How They met Travis. Chris describes his life growing up poor and his struggles to graduate high school. He repeated his Senior year twice after failing it the first time. He tried college and it was not for him. He worked several jobs. His brother and SIL got into PPL first and he signed up under them.

    He met Travis in Riverside, CA while he was teaching Sunday School. Travis was involved in the Sunday School as kinda a supervisor and observed Chris teaching. He then introduced himself to Chris. Both Chris and Travis were working several jobs, trying to make ends meet. Each were praying for someone to come into their lives to help them find a way to reach their financial goals. Travis heard God say to talk to Chris Hughes and he did. The rest is history.

    Skye met Travis in 2001. It was Travis who encouraged Skye to date Chris Hughes. Skye had a boyfriend, but Travis would not let up and would go over to Skye's apartment to read or study and encourage Skye to date Chris. Finally she relented and dated Chris and they were married shortly thereafter. Chris, Skye and Travis were very good friends. They often traveled together and Travis visited their home a lot. Travis asked Skye for dating advice all the time and asked for ways he could improve himself as he acknowledged that he was "rough around the edges". Skye was very honest with him and he took her advice to heart to change.

    Travis always thought he would die young, the last time Skye remembered was early 2007 in their living room. She wondered if that was Travis' motivation to accomplish as much as he could. She wrote that Travis was one of a kind, filled with exuberance and life. He loved musicals, knew all the words to the songs of Les Miserables. He would sing voice mails and spontaneously burst into song. Travis stood out in a room because of his energy and was liked by everyone, always making ppl lol.

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    OT. Shooting in Colorado Springs, CO. KKTV reporting along with FOX and CNN, 4 people injured possible 2 are police. Shooter still loose. I cannot get link on iPad, but all 3 above stations reporting.

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