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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlockknows View Post
    There is an escort on another website who said it was well know Gilbert took something very strong on the night in question. If her body showed nothing you have very deep corruption.


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    Her body showed nothing because it was skeletal remains. I've never seen anywhere where toxicology tests on skeletal remains showed if the person was under the influence when they died, but I'm also not a doctor or a scientist so if there's research out there saying otherwise then I stand corrected. And now back to James Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlockknows View Post
    You are obsessed with James Burke. To the point if there is no direct evidence linking him to women who have been hurt then case closed. All I am suggesting is there are more than one way to skin a cat. Get an associate of his and you might have him.


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    Well that's news to me that I'm obsessed with Burke. But at least we are talking about him in the right thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotpotato View Post
    Well that's news to me that I'm obsessed with Burke. But at least we are talking about him in the right thread!
    God forgive me and with all due respect, if someone solves the mystery of the LISK killer does it matter if they write it on my ass , SHERLOCK KNOWS ass or the Jon Beniot board, you are getting hung up on pettiness! It's a moot point and it does not matter in the whole picture.
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    My 26 year old niece was missing for 14 months, body found in the woods. She was murdered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joesmith97 View Post
    I'm curious as to why you don't think the extent of Burke's involvement in the case was more than the cover up piece. Let's play along and assume that your theory is in fact correct and that he was not involved in the killings. If he were the chief of police of a department that just so happened to stumble upon over ten dead bodies found, wouldn't he want to investigate the case and have as much outside help (e.g. FBI) as possible. I think in that case he would because he would want the case to be solved because it would make him (as the chief of police, as the leader of the department and the investigation) look good. It's very hard to imagine that his intentions in prohibiting the FBI from entering the case were not malicious. It's also very hard to imagine that him prohibiting the FBI from entering the case was the extent of his involvement. He really would have no reason to prohibit their involvement unless of course he himself was involved in the case.
    Or friends or colleagues of his he felt loyal too.


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    I find this ABC story interesting. We all know what Dormer said, I just found it interesting, without knowing for certain who somebody was, he was sure Gilbert had nothing to do with LISK.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/shannan-gil...ry?id=15145498

    Basically, nosey Parker Dormer, finds the bodies no one wanted found, says there's a serial killer, only one mind, and this is it.

    "After an exhaustive, methodical, massive search, we have this day at approximately 9:14 a.m. located a set of skeletal remains we believe at this time to be the missing Shannan Gilbert," Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer said at a news conference.

    Dormer said that while authorities believe the remains to be Gilbert's, they will not know for sure until the medical examiner completes an autopsy. Dormer said the cause of death is currently unknown."

    Further down the piece he says something strange. He believes Gilbert has nothing to do with the other cases. This is odd because unless he has thoroughly investigated the area in an hour, found no DNA on her clothes found all over the place matching hers, how can he state this? He is not sure if her bones have any trauma to them does he? It's like. Look I ****ed up guys but I'll make it right. But too late. You are going anyway bye bye.

    "Our theory is that this is a coincidence. She went missing in Oak Beach and this has nothing to do with the serial killer," Dormer has said.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlockknows View Post
    I find this ABC story interesting. We all know what Dormer said, I just found it interesting, without knowing for certain who somebody was, he was sure Gilbert had nothing to do with LISK.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/shannan-gil...ry?id=15145498

    Basically, nosey Parker Dormer, finds the bodies no one wanted found, says there's a serial killer, only one mind, and this is it.

    "After an exhaustive, methodical, massive search, we have this day at approximately 9:14 a.m. located a set of skeletal remains we believe at this time to be the missing Shannan Gilbert," Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer said at a news conference.

    Dormer said that while authorities believe the remains to be Gilbert's, they will not know for sure until the medical examiner completes an autopsy. Dormer said the cause of death is currently unknown."

    Further down the piece he says something strange. He believes Gilbert has nothing to do with the other cases. This is odd because unless he has thoroughly investigated the area in an hour, found no DNA on her clothes found all over the place matching hers, how can he state this? He is not sure if her bones have any trauma to them does he? It's like. Look I ****ed up guys but I'll make it right. But too late. You are going anyway bye bye.

    "Our theory is that this is a coincidence. She went missing in Oak Beach and this has nothing to do with the serial killer," Dormer has said.



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    As she ran screaming " they're trying to kill me".

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    Thanks for supporting my opinions on Dormer, i.e. he is an idiot and probably a liar. His mumble-jumble about SG supports that in many ways. He went on the record as saying SG probably drowned when there is no evidence to support that, then and to this very day.

    What we do know the GB4 gals were sex workers and advertised their wares on Craigs List. They were all murdered and found near the body of SG. We know SG went to Brewer's house after answering a call on Craigslist. We know she ran out of Brewer's house screaming: "They're are going to kill me." We know a detective wrote a letter to Newsday stating he heard the call and said nothing she said indicated to him she felt her life was in danger. We now know the Chief of Detectives has said otherwise. We know the SCPD will not release that tape citing some obscure SC County law that 911 tapes cannot be produced. We should know that is BS. Then we hear that releasing such a tape could compromise the investigation - which is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkshaw View Post
    Thanks for supporting my opinions on Dormer, i.e. he is an idiot and probably a liar. His mumble-jumble about SG supports that in many ways. He went on the record as saying SG probably drowned when there is no evidence to support that, then and to this very day.

    What we do know the GB4 gals were sex workers and advertised their wares on Craigs List. They were all murdered and found near the body of SG. We know SG went to Brewer's house after answering a call on Craigslist. We know she ran out of Brewer's house screaming: "They're are going to kill me." We know a detective wrote a letter to Newsday stating he heard the call and said nothing she said indicated to him she felt her life was in danger. We now know the Chief of Detectives has said otherwise. We know the SCPD will not release that tape citing some obscure SC County law that 911 tapes cannot be produced. We should know that is BS. Then we hear that releasing such a tape could compromise the investigation - which is it?
    Hey I have quick question with regards to the SC 911 call law, and pardon my ignorance in the matter. Does it matter at all she gave her location as Jones beach (which is nassau county, right?) and their reasoning for taking so long to actually get to oak beach was they dispatched state police elsewhere? Which also seems bogus...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkshaw View Post
    Thanks for supporting my opinions on Dormer, i.e. he is an idiot and probably a liar. His mumble-jumble about SG supports that in many ways. He went on the record as saying SG probably drowned when there is no evidence to support that, then and to this very day.

    What we do know the GB4 gals were sex workers and advertised their wares on Craigs List. They were all murdered and found near the body of SG. We know SG went to Brewer's house after answering a call on Craigslist. We know she ran out of Brewer's house screaming: "They're are going to kill me." We know a detective wrote a letter to Newsday stating he heard the call and said nothing she said indicated to him she felt her life was in danger. We now know the Chief of Detectives has said otherwise. We know the SCPD will not release that tape citing some obscure SC County law that 911 tapes cannot be produced. We should know that is BS. Then we hear that releasing such a tape could compromise the investigation - which is it?
    Could they not beep out anything which could compromise the investigation, or by saying this are they not admitting they have a definite line of enquiry?

    Did anyone move there, to Oak Beach 20 years ago, or are they all there forever, locals like? One of them kills for the others if this is what is happening. Strangulation is an experienced man's game. A nutter. Could be the boy from Atlanta moved north?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotpotato View Post
    Hey I have quick question with regards to the SC 911 call law, and pardon my ignorance in the matter. Does it matter at all she gave her location as Jones beach (which is nassau county, right?) and their reasoning for taking so long to actually get to oak beach was they dispatched state police elsewhere? Which also seems bogus...
    It doesn't.. It's all bull.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...7#post12026157

    http://legis.suffolkcountyny.gov/cle...1/PS121511.pdf


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    You can't make this stuff up man....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotpotato View Post
    You can't make this stuff up man....
    Them openly lying? You're correct that it's really hard to imagine. Truth is stranger than fiction.

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