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    BOGART, Arden Jr. - Namus 21646


    Arden Bogart, Jr.
    Age in 1992, 23

    Namus 21646

    Age last seen 19 to years old
    Date last seen February 11, 1988
    Santa Fe, NM

    Hair Brown
    Eyes Blue
    Height (inches) 72.0
    Weight (pounds) 170.0

    He was last seen in the Santa Fe area on February 11, 1988 on I-25 between Santa Fe and Pecos. He may have traveled to Needles, California. Foul play is suspected.

    Dental unavailable
    DNA Initial inquiry underway

    Det. Tony Trujillo
    505-955-5067
    Case 8802-00859

    Santa Fe Police Department
    Violent Crimes Unit

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/21646/69
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    Arden's thread in the 1980's Missing Persons Forum:

    NM - Arden Bogart Jr., 18, Santa Fe, 11 Feb 1988

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    Quote Originally Posted by KateB View Post
    Arden's thread in the 1980's Missing Persons Forum:

    NM - Arden Bogart Jr., 18, Santa Fe, 11 Feb 1988
    The WS thread cited began in 2007. The links to potential UID matches in this thread no longer work.

    There doesn't seem much to offer in this thread except pleas from a cousin, Gozer Jr. and/or Ryan Maxwell. This man might have more information by now?

    A Lt. Gary Johnson in the Santa Fe police department was evidently the one who knew the most about this case. 505-955-5041

    Bogart seems to have separated from the man he was last seen with at a mall. This man returned to Lima OH where both were from.

    Websleuths archive 2006 with possible San Dimas CA match (seems very unlikely to me, since height and weight are way off): http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/.../t-188830.html
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    Google Research: Arden Bogart

    Doe Network link (looks like repeated info): http://doenetwork.org/cases/1160dmnm.html

    Agency Case Number:
    8802-00859

    NCIC Number: M-285879922


    Dental Xrays available per: http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/det...=1860331100173
    Same source: Date of Birth: 7/28/1969
    Last Seen: 2/11/1988
    Scars/Marks/Tattoos: Birthmark on lower back at waistline, brown in color with dark spots, scar on left forearm 1-2 inches long.
    Dental X-rays Available: Yes

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    More Google: Arden Bogart

    Arden R Bogart has one court record showing in OH; I am unable to retrieve this record, and given the age provided, it might refer to the father (died 2006) of the MP and not the MP himself.

    A Terry Bogart (brother?) of Lima OH seems to be related: http://www.spokeo.com/Terry-Bogart/Ohio There seem to be 2 surviving sisters.






    This concludes my Google search under "Arden Bogart" New Mexico
    Last edited by RickshawFan; 12-17-2015 at 11:19 PM.

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    It's shocking how little information there is on this guy. There is no trace of his school, his birth, for instance. There is only one photo.

    I could find no original source for the sightings in Needles CA.

    For what it's worth, an obituary for Arden Bogart Sr., with relatives' names: http://limaohio.com/archive/143106/o...b8f1536f2-html

    A sister died in infancy. Another sister died at 19?

    There are a fair number of Google clippings on Arden Bogart Sr. There is no sign of his wife.

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    My assessment of this MP:
    -hair too dark (no red visible), and he may be too short
    -no details of his disappearance story seem to be verifiable
    -only one photo exists
    -dental records are available, per doj.ca

    Recommendation:
    From the information I looked at, I don't believe there are enough details to have this be a practical prospect for our UID, unless the dental records actually exist and are helpful.

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    Glad someone else has posted this, bumping it up to the top now. I've learned A LOT more about Arden's case since I first posted and if anyone is interested I could share what I've got so far

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    Gozer, Rickshaw, I alerted the post & asked that that threads be combined/unified.

    Gozer, we do want to hear all that you've found!

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    I know a fair amount. Arden had been visiting a friend in Long Beach, CA (or possibly San Diego, the friend lived in Long Beach though). They were both from Lima, OH and they were on a trip to take Arden back to Ohio. Arden, and his friend (who I'll call "John" for anonymity) made several collect calls to Arden's parents along the way.
    Feb 8. 1988- Needles, CA
    Feb 9. 1988- Wagon Mound, NM
    Feb 10. 1988(The day before Arden is reported missing) Santa Fe, NM
    Feb 10, 1988 Albuquerque, NM
    Feb 11. 1988- Kingman, AZ
    Feb 11, 1988- Joshua Tree, CA
    Feb 15, 1988- 29 Palms, CA

    According to police record in the call Arden made in Needles on the 8th he stated there car had broken down. I assume all calls made after that were made by John. John called Arden's father (presumably the call made from Santa Fe on the 10th) and told him that the car had broken down in Santa Fe and they pulled over to the side of the road to attempt to fix the vehicle. He then said that Arden had wanted to climb a mountain and while John worked on the car Arden walked off and that was the last John ever saw of him. John claims he looked for Arden but his story is not very credible at all because he mentions such things as demons, talking animals and hearing voices, etc. John had also mentioned in his interview with investigators that Arden was using crystal (which I take to mean crystal meth, though I didn't think it was that big in 1988) and that they were both interested in satanism and joining a satanic cult so I don't put too much stock into anything John says. Here's where things get VERY interesting though, John claimed he reported the disappearance to the Santa Fe Police, the Las Vegas, NM police, and the New Mexico state police, and we have proven 100% that he never reported the case to anyone. The only way the case was ever reported was by Arden's father after John had called him. Another very suspicious thing, I spoke to John for the very first (and last) time last year and he told me he had also been questioned by the FBI about the case, which we're about 99% certain is not true. The detective working for the Santa Fe PD and his case manager on NAMUS both agree that there is no reason to suspect that the FBI ever had anything to do with the case . So the last person to see Arden alive likely is/was a drug addict and lied not only about reporting the case, but also about being interviewed by the FBI relating to the case. Sorry for the wall of text, but I'm just going by memory. This is a map I made pinpointing all the collect calls I mentioned earlier)


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    Hey, wait, Wagon Mound is northeast of Santa Fe!

    Ah, and your map shows this. That route isn't returning anyone to Ohio.

    Las Vegas, NM is also northeast of Santa Fe. Did "John" misplace Arden before returning to Santa Fe?

    Crystal? Maybe healing crystals?

    1982, a Roman Catholic priest was killed in a rest area just south of Santa Fe, this was attributed to Satanists at the time?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedM...art_were_they/


    Maybe it's time "John" did enjoy the hospitality of the FBI....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughing View Post
    Hey, wait, Wagon Mound is northeast of Santa Fe!

    Ah, and your map shows this. That route isn't returning anyone to Ohio.

    Las Vegas, NM is also northeast of Santa Fe. Did "John" misplace Arden before returning to Santa Fe?

    Crystal? Maybe healing crystals?

    1982, a Roman Catholic priest was killed in a rest area just south of Santa Fe, this was attributed to Satanists at the time?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedM...art_were_they/


    Maybe it's time "John" did enjoy the hospitality of the FBI....
    The sequence of those calls is that they drove out to Wagon Mound, then were heading back toward SoCal.
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuff View Post
    The sequence of those calls is that they drove out to Wagon Mound, then were heading back toward SoCal.
    The list of calls starts with February 8 in Needles, CA followed by the February 9 call from Wagon Mound.

    MapQuest says that's 693 miles, 10 hours & 35 minutes. I haven't checked the weather for February 1988, but I-25 is sporadically closed due to snow accumulation.

    Northern New Mexico is sparsely populated rugged terrain in any season.

    Gozer, are the dates perhaps transposed?

    Thank you!

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    Here it is mapped out with driving routes. It's definitely out to Wagon Mound and back on I-40. https://goo.gl/maps/o5CRXyLiv1R2

    Intriguing, but also nowhere near Sand Canyon...
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    That route isn't returning anyone to Ohio.
    Maybe it is, maybe it's not they were heading north, but it doesn't seem like a logical path to get to Ohio
    Did "John" misplace Arden before returning to Santa Fe?
    It's entirely possible. I don't trust a word John says, all I know for sure is John called Arden Sr. and told him Arden Jr was missing and then Arden Sr reported Jr missing on the 11th. I presume the call in Santa Fe on the 10th was John calling Arden Sr and then the report was filed the next day.

    Crystal? Maybe healing crystals?
    No, I really think it was meth. It wouldn't surprise me, given the crazy story John told LE involving demons, posession, talking animals, etc...

    1982, a Roman Catholic priest was killed in a rest area just south of Santa Fe, this was attributed to Satanists at the time?
    This is interesting, I'll mention this to LE next time I speak to them

    Maybe it's time "John" did enjoy the hospitality of the FBI....
    I couldn't agree more
    Last edited by Gozer Jr; 08-22-2016 at 11:45 PM. Reason: Got the quote wrong

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