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    CT - Ted Hakey for shooting at mosque, Meriden, 2015

    Connecticut man charged with hate crime for shooting at mosque

    A Connecticut man was charged on Friday with a federal hate crime offense for allegedly shooting at the mosque he lived near after spending the night drinking at a local bar following the deadly Paris attacks by Islamic State militants on Nov. 13.

    Prosecutors said Ted Hakey, 48, of Meriden, fired four shots at the building in the early morning hours of Nov. 14 after learning of the Paris attacks. The Baitul Aman Mosque was vacant at the time of the shooting and no one was injured.
    If convicted of intentionally damaging religious property with a dangerous weapon, Hakey could be sentenced to up to 20 years in prison and fined up to $250,000.
    Former Marine Charged with Shooting at Connecticut Mosque

    Ted Hakey Jr., 48, of Meriden was taken into custody Thursday and appeared before a U.S. magistrate judge Friday morning. He is being held for the time being and will have a detention hearing Dec. 21.

    Hakey is a former U.S. Marine, according to an arrest warrant affidavit. He has five rifles ranging in caliber from .223 to .338 registered. His wife also has a rifle registered to her and a 9mm handgun. Any of the rifles could have been. been used, according to the affidavit.

    Hakey lives next door to the mosque and fired several rounds using his high-powered rifle during the early morning hours of Nov. 14, according to the affidavit

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    I hope he does some serious time for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montjoy View Post
    I hope he does some serious time for this.
    I hope so too. This could have gone much worse.

    He's the trifecta of being a bad neighbor: xenophobia, alcohol, guns.

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    He's a real triple threat alright!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pappa rob View Post
    He's a real triple threat alright!
    Sort of like Sammy Davis Jr -- only different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesneakers View Post
    I hope so too. This could have gone much worse.

    He's the trifecta of being a bad neighbor: xenophobia, alcohol, guns.
    Sadly, that describes the trifecta of being an awesome neighbor for far too many people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montjoy View Post
    Sadly, that describes the trifecta of being an awesome neighbor for far too many people!
    Took the words right outta my mouth. In my neck of the woods, this guy would be considered a 'Murrican Hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montjoy View Post
    I hope he does some serious time for this.
    Assuming you believe prison time is to rehabilitate, what do you think an appropriate sentence would be. If my assumption is wrong, what should the sentence and the purpose of it be?
    I understood every word you said. It was the order that you said them that has me confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwt42 View Post
    Assuming you believe prison time is to rehabilitate, what do you think an appropriate sentence would be. If my assumption is wrong, what should the sentence and the purpose of it be?
    Good questions. I hope I have answered them as well as I can below.

    First, I think that there are multiple reasons to imprison someone. Yes, rehabilitation is probably the main one, but punishment is part of rehab -- in that it can teach someone that there are consequences to actions. Part of the reason to imprison is to show others that a type of action is inappropriate/illegal.

    As for how long the sentence should be -- in all honesty, I can't even guess. When I mean 'serious time', I mean 'enough time for the person incarcerated to consider his or her actions. This was not a simple vandalism case -- it was closer to (but not as bad as) a drunk driving or attempted murder case, for the legal reason that lethal force was used. This person could have killed someone.

    Moreover, and I suspect that this will be less popular with some, I do think that the hatred against a group (in this case, a religion) should be seen as an aggravating factor. To fail to punish those who believe it is legitimate to assault people based on characteristics that are protected by the first amendment is more than an affront to the constitution.

    So, as for how long this fellow should spend in prison -- it should be long enough for him to recognize that what he did was nothing less than an assault on the country he once swore to protect. I do not know enough about sentencing, but all things considered, it should be at least one year, and less than three. This is not just a case of someone firing his gun irresponsibly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montjoy View Post
    Good questions. I hope I have answered them as well as I can below.

    First, I think that there are multiple reasons to imprison someone. Yes, rehabilitation is probably the main one, but punishment is part of rehab -- in that it can teach someone that there are consequences to actions. Part of the reason to imprison is to show others that a type of action is inappropriate/illegal.

    As for how long the sentence should be -- in all honesty, I can't even guess. When I mean 'serious time', I mean 'enough time for the person incarcerated to consider his or her actions. This was not a simple vandalism case -- it was closer to (but not as bad as) a drunk driving or attempted murder case, for the legal reason that lethal force was used. This person could have killed someone.

    Moreover, and I suspect that this will be less popular with some, I do think that the hatred against a group (in this case, a religion) should be seen as an aggravating factor. To fail to punish those who believe it is legitimate to assault people based on characteristics that are protected by the first amendment is more than an affront to the constitution.

    So, as for how long this fellow should spend in prison -- it should be long enough for him to recognize that what he did was nothing less than an assault on the country he once swore to protect. I do not know enough about sentencing, but all things considered, it should be at least one year, and less than three. This is not just a case of someone firing his gun irresponsibly.
    Agree with everything you said. From your original statement I thought you were thinking 25 to life. My mistake.
    I understood every word you said. It was the order that you said them that has me confused.


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    Man accused of firing shots at Meriden mosque faces a judge

    Federal prosecutors are saying that a man from Meriden accused of firing shots at a mosque following the Paris attacks is a danger to the community during his court appearance on Monday morning.

    The Baitul Amam Mosque is located right next door to his home on Main Street.

    After a night of drinking, investigators said Hakey claimed he was aiming at a wood pile and repeatedly told police he had no ill will toward his neighbors at the mosque.

    On the day of the shooting, the FBI said Hakey sent a text message.

    "If the Muslims attack over here again, it's over for them," he wrote. "Americans will snap and play cowboys and Muslims. It will get ugly."

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    Hakey will remain in jail until his detention hearing , which was continued until 2:30 p.m. at US District Court in New Haven. The hearing will decide whether or not to set bond.

    The attorney for Hakey, Jeffrey Cohen, declined comment on Monday, but is expected to speak after Monday’s hearing.

    If Hakey is convicted of intentionally damaging religious property, he faces 20 years in prison

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    Former U.S. Marine charged in South Meriden mosque shooting remains in custody following court hearing

    A federal prosecutor argued during a detention hearing Monday that a Meriden resident and former U.S. Marine accused of firing gunshots at a South Meriden mosque should remain in custody until a trial is held or charges are resolved.

    The hearing was continued until next Monday, when a defense attorney plans to plead the case for the release of Ted Hakey Jr. Hakey was arrested Thursday night in the November shooting at Baitul Aman Mosque. He was charged with damages to religious property, a federal crime carrying a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison and a fine of $250,000. The charge is considered a hate crime by the U.S. Department of Justice.

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    Assistant U.S. Attorney Raymond Miller argued Monday that Hakey should be held without bond until there is a resolution to the case. While Hakey isn’t considered a flight risk, Miller said, he is a threat to the community.

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    On Jan. 10, three days after the attacks on the Charlie Hebdo magazine in Paris, Hakey acknowledges in a Facebook conversation with an unidentified person that he lives next door to a mosque.

    “I observe them with my binos (binoculars),” he wrote, according to the affidavit. “Way too many military aged males. Some days it’s ALL MEN!!”

    “The next big attack on our country and it’s over for them!!” Hakey stated during the same Facebook conversation.

    In July, Hakey wrote in a Facebook comment that “we must hunt down and kill radical Islam on our soil,” calling the president a ringleader, the affidavit states.

    After a shooting in Chattanooga in July, Hakey made several derogatory comments about Muslims on Facebook. In one comment, he asked “is Muslim season open yet?” the affidavit states. “I’m in a target rich environment!”
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    It sounds like they need to lock him up and throw away the key..

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    Quote Originally Posted by pappa rob View Post
    It sounds like they need to lock him up and throw away the key..
    You're right - he's dangerous and needs to be kept away from people.

    Maybe he can sell his home to pay his fine since he'll never be going back there.

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    People often ask why Muslims aren't doing anything about Muslim terrorists, or why the friends and neighbors of 'suspicious' Muslims aren't turning them in. (Neither question is fair, as they are.)

    Here's a guy who has been posting violent, hateful stuff for ages -- and doing it on Facebook.

    Why didn't anyone turn this guy in to the authorities? He's clearly been a terrorist waiting to emerge for quite some time.

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