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    CA - 14 killed in San Bernardino mass shooting, 2 Dec 2015 #5

    "Neighbor of San Bernardino Attackers Faces Terrorism Charges" http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/18/us...epartment.html



    Criminal Complaint for Enrique Marquez http://documents.latimes.com/crimina...rique-marquez/

    excerpt: Enrique Marquez "...arrested Dec. 17 and charged with conspiring to give material support to a terrorist plot..."



    "Marquez and Farook plotted campus and freeway attacks, prosecutors allege" http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...217-story.html



    "San Bernardino Shooter's Neighbor Arrested On Terror Charges, Allegedly Planned Earlier Attacks" http://abcnews.go.com/US/neighbor-sa...ry?id=35817064




    "Pal of San Bernardino terrorists charged on multiple counts" http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/17...l-charges.html
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    "Criminal complaint illuminates San Bernardino gunman's ties to Islamic militarism" http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/l...218-story.html

    ...according to the document, Marquez spent most of his time at Farook's house, where they read and listened to lectures and videos involving radical ideology. They spent time studying Inspire Magazine, the official publication of Al Qaeda of the Arabian Peninsula, and videos by Shabab, the group's affiliate in Somalia...The complaint also states that in the early months of 2009, Farook told Marquez that he was interested in joining the U.S. armed services, saying he was especially disgruntled by the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. But Farook's thoughts evolved after the November 2009 shooting at Ft. Hood in which U.S. Army psychiatrist Nidal Malik Hasan, who had been in direct contact with Awlaki, shot and killed 13 people..."
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    Interesting article about how quickly and quietly Marquez was being radicalized by terrorist Farook...

    http://fox40.com/2015/12/18/who-is-e...fferent-tales/

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    "The a**hole used my gun in the shooting': California terrorist's friend claimed in 911 call just hours after massacre..."

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3uiRCw7Mk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindmatters View Post
    "The a**hole used my gun in the shooting': California terrorist's friend claimed in 911 call just hours after massacre..."

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3uiRCw7Mk
    RSBM

    Seems pretty easy to claim innocence after the fact. MOO

    Terrible that the female terrorist actually posted pro-jihad messages on social media and was still able to get a spouse visa:
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/14/us/san...dino-shooting/
    (CNN)Tashfeen Malik advocated jihad in messages on social media, but her comments were made under a pseudonym and with strict privacy settings that did not allow people outside a small group of friends to see them, U.S. law enforcement officials told CNN on Monday.
    Is it possible a seasoned hacker could have been able to access her sm accounts ?

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    I don't know if we have a thread for the concern in which someone bought a large amount of cell phones, then a large amount of propane tanks. But I am sure this ties in with them...

    Sheriff alerted after man buys many BB pellets and box cutter blades


    http://www.kmbc.com/news/sheriff-ale..._source=Social

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarmelEyesD View Post
    I don't know if we have a thread for the concern in which someone bought a large amount of cell phones, then a large amount of propane tanks. But I am sure this ties in with them...

    Sheriff alerted after man buys many BB pellets and box cutter blades


    http://www.kmbc.com/news/sheriff-ale..._source=Social
    Thanks for the post CarmelEyesD.

    Nice that the common sense practice of "see something say something" is happening in KC, Missouri--Way to be "Show-Me state" peeps!!!

    Hopefully after what happened in SB with the silenced neighbors of Farook and Malik, that see something say something becomes the norm rather than the exception. And may this practice spread like wildfire across the nation.

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    Dec 19 2015, 8:03 am ET

    Obama Meets With Families of San Bernardino Attack Victims

    by NBC News

    President Barack Obama opened his Christmas vacation on a somber note: meeting with families of the 14 people who were killed in the San Bernardino shootings.

    Obama stopped in California en route to Hawaii on Friday for his annual holiday getaway...

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san...ictims-n483021

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    Told FBI he bought two AR-15s three years ago as a favor for Syed Farook

    Told dispatcher his neighbor carried out the massacre using his gun
    This guy's defense attorney should claim mental impairment due to low iq.

    Seriously? He admitted to a straw purchase and THEN said the shooter used the guns he sold?

    How on earth would he have known that his weapons were used? Because he discussed it with Farook?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonya610 View Post
    This guy's defense attorney should claim mental impairment due to low iq.

    Seriously? He admitted to a straw purchase and THEN said the shooter used the guns he sold?

    How on earth would he have known that his weapons were used? Because he discussed it with Farook?
    During the mobile shootout with the husband/wife there was a third person "captured" some distance away from the final shooting scene (SUV). He was reportedly cutting thru yards and climbing fences.

    Authorities also reported that they had a "UC" almost immediately, about the same time the BEARCATS moved into position at the stopped SUV.
    I suspect the radio code the police used was the closest they had to describe an insider, etc. when they radioed in, in reference to the "UC."

    You could possibly draw conclusions from those events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel7 View Post
    During the mobile shootout with the husband/wife there was a third person "captured" some distance away from the final shooting scene (SUV). He was reportedly cutting thru yards and climbing fences.

    Authorities also reported that they had a "UC" almost immediately, about the same time the BEARCATS moved into position at the stopped SUV.
    I suspect the radio code the police used was the closest they had to describe an insider, etc. when they radioed in, in reference to the "UC."

    You could possibly draw conclusions from those events.
    What does UC stand for?

    That person couldn't have been Enrique, surely they didn't let him go (did they??).

    If there was a third shooter I suspect it would be the guy that cased the office building with Farook the week before (allegedly, due to the scanner reports).

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    I thought it was reported days after that the 3rd guy was just a runner who was wanted on a warrant for something unrelated? I believe it was reported he ran due to all the LE activity. I'll see if I can find it.
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    Found a link re: 3rd person fleeing

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/12/...n-in-illinois/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonya610 View Post
    What does UC stand for?

    That person couldn't have been Enrique, surely they didn't let him go (did they??).

    If there was a third shooter I suspect it would be the guy that cased the office building with Farook the week before (allegedly, due to the scanner reports).
    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo View Post
    Found a link re: 3rd person fleeing

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/12/...n-in-illinois/
    UC= UnderCover

    There was a lot occurring at that time as was indicated by the immense radio traffic. At one point the trunked repeater timed out and it was several seconds before the radio system came back in use.

    Per radio traffic, one person was detained and there was a question about relevance to a long gun(a .22 if I remember correctly) that was found in a yard, possibly from activity the night before.

    I heard the actual radio traffic when someone was asked about the 3rd suspect and the person answered and stated the detainee was a (code for UC) and was transported to an agency to be turned over to another named agency.

    I also remember a transmission questioning a third person in the SUV and heard it stated there were only 2 suspects.

    I do know from media reports that they report Marquez arriving at a hospital.
    The radio transmissions that day don't seem to match the media reports, however there is a likelihood there is/was an informant and then there's Marquez.

    Hard to reconcile all the useful info the FBI received from Marquez and him not either a UC/informant or that he may have brokered a future plea deal for cooperation.
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    news.yahoo.com/california-shooters-visa-request-missing-key-information-politician-165725643.html
    "After reviewing Tashfeen Malik's immigration file, it is clear that immigration officials did not thoroughly vet her application," House Judiciary Committee chairman Bob Goodlatte said in a statement.

    Well ? Is something going to change, then ?
    Will anyone be held accountable or is this just an "oops" situation ?

    And to think the people who were murdered had actually given this couple a baby shower in the weeks before the shooting. Nauseating.

    Good comment by a poster with the initial "D" below in the yahoo link.
    To paraphrase : "... instead of depicting the couple alive and 'happy'... how about showing them deceased , and how a 'martyr' can end up ..."

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