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    FL - Barbara Dawson, 57, dies after being arrested for refusing to leave hospital ER

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    Hospital has police arrest and remove woman they claim no longer needed care. Daryl Parks is on the case.
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    But then they remove the cuffs, take her back inside (sounds like under her own power), she is re-admitted and THEN dies?

    Don't really see how the family thinks this is LEs fault? They are called to remove a discharged patient. They do so. They then escort her back in when she complains of symptoms. What did LE do wrong here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by meanmaryjean View Post
    But then they remove the cuffs, take her back inside (sounds like under her own power), she is re-admitted and THEN dies?

    Don't really see how the family thinks this is LEs fault? They are called to remove a discharged patient. They do so. They then escort her back in when she complains of symptoms. What did LE do wrong here?
    Not enough info yet to really make a call as to what is going on here. I think they are just getting ahead of the game and trying to make sure there can be no claim of police brutality that caused her condition to deteriorate.

    As of right now though, it appears that if anything, the hospital might have been negligent. I definitely will be watching to see how this progresses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meanmaryjean View Post
    But then they remove the cuffs, take her back inside (sounds like under her own power), she is re-admitted and THEN dies?

    Don't really see how the family thinks this is LEs fault? They are called to remove a discharged patient. They do so. They then escort her back in when she complains of symptoms. What did LE do wrong here?
    IF this is anything like what happened to me, MAYBE I can explain. Although don't take my case as gospel, it just sounds the same.

    Okay, I couldn't breathe, I was seeing flashing lights, stars, woozy. Managed to get to hospital (someone drove me from work). Sat for a few minutes in emergency room. When they took my vitals, I was fine. Thing is, I wasn't fine. I was only fine when I sat STILL for a few minutes and my oxygen levels replenished themselves. The minute I had to get up and walk around or do much of anything, they plummeted - I believe I went to the mid seventies days later when someone who knew what they were doing checked me out. The mid seventies I'm told ain't good at all. Of course that did not happen in the hospital. In the hospital they gave me a B something shot and a breathing treatment and sent me home.

    Well, on the way home the lights came back and I couldn't breathe again. I even worked like that for a few hours the next day until I had to leave or die - my body was telling me this loud and clear. Finally, one doctor had the good sense to walk me around with that thingee on my finger and it went off like a fire alarm. I did not have enough air.

    Had I gone to the hospital, which I did, and they found nothing wrong and released me, which they did, but had me arrested for knowing there was really something wrong and refusing to leave, I would probably have died too from the movement and the stress of being arrested. I'm afraid, IF she had the same thing I did, that hospital, and the one I went to, didn't know their behinds from a hole in the wall. I'm lucky I survived.

    Not saying this is what happened to her, but it sure sounds like what happened to me.

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    Police: Woman Died of Blood Clot After Removed From Hospital

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    I believe the hospital is 100% to blame for this; LE were only doing their job.

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    Definitely the Hospital's fault. No fault lies with the officers. They were doing their job and I am sure they feel horrible about it. They are not doctors. They are not equipped with the medical training or the equipment to make sure this woman was okay. The Hospital was and they failed her miserably.

    What a horrible way to die though. She knew something was terribly wrong and she was neglected and thrown aside. She must have felt so helpless. Sad.

    ETA: Even IF there was nothing they could possibly do for her condition medically, her last moments on this earth should not have been treated so carelessly. We can argue that
    they didn't know, but had they listened to her instead of pushing her aside, maybe her last moments would have been someone actually caring for her and making her last moments peaceful.

    Again, the Hospital is to blame here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
    I believe the hospital is 100% to blame for this; LE were only doing their job.

    I agree completely. LEOs are not qualified to make medical diagnoses. When they suspect that there are problems, their obligation is to call in the experts. In this case, the experts failed the patient/detainee. LE are pretty much victims here.

    (And PS, sorry to hear about your story.)

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    I personally have had 2 pulmonary embolisms in the past 7 years. I went to the ER not being able to breathe. I am a nurse and they did not diagnose the pe right away and breathing was very difficult. Thank goodness I was admitted and received treatment. I can only imagine what this lady went through. She knew something was wrong but apparently the medical docs didn't listen to her. I feel 100 percent the hospital was to blame. We do not know if she was insured which should not play into her care but unfortunately money talks and does come into play how pts are treated. Such an unfair way to die especially when she wanted help and was denied. RIP.

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    This is medical incompetence at it’s worst. It sounds just like what happened to Edith Rodriguez. In that case the ER nurse was fired, and the entire hospital was eventually closed down permanently.

    Which is what should happen in this case too. The staff that made the decision to release her should lose their right to practice medicine ever again, and the hospital should be closed down.

    There should be no second chances for the hospital or the staff who were responsible. There is no excuse for this type of incompetence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meanmaryjean View Post
    But then they remove the cuffs, take her back inside (sounds like under her own power), she is re-admitted and THEN dies?

    Don't really see how the family thinks this is LEs fault? They are called to remove a discharged patient. They do so. They then escort her back in when she complains of symptoms. What did LE do wrong here?
    Well, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement was called in to investigate. They don’t usually have an investigation unless there are some questions that need to be answered.

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    Pulmonary emboli can't be diagnosed with a chest xray. IIRC, she was complaining of shortness of breath. If her pulse ox was good and vital signs stable, they gave her a breathing treatment and discharged her, the medical staff would have no way of knowing she had a PE. The doctors may have not suspected a PE and did not order a VQ scan. They are not done on every patient that complains of shortness of breath.

    I don't think LE is to blame here either and I am not going to be quick to judge the ER staff either without more info. I worked as a RN in the ER for years and I can see how this could happen. Sometimes the staff gets jaded by having treated patients in the past that refused to leave for whatever reason.

    I will say that if this patient continued to complain of shortness of breath and chest pain, she should not have been discharged and a further work up was warranted. She could have been placed in the hallway where she could be observed at the very least if they needed the stretcher/room.

    For police to be called to remove a patient, that is typically done under extreme circumstances. I hate to say this, but belligerent, demanding, exhausting patients sometimes wear patience thin and keep the staff from attending to other patients. Not saying that this happened here, but that would be my guess as to why LE was called. IMOO

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    I imagine she was belligerent cuz of how she was feeling. I imagine if she was of a different social class she would have been treated differently.

    Medical staff is over worked. Too bad most of our money for health insurance goes to insurance companies for their CEO salaries in the millions, beautiful buildings, fancy furniture, etc instead of the people who actually provide patient care.

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    I'm still trying to figure out how they missed a blood clot. Didn't they do any scans before her release? A lot of my family have had problems with clots, and they always do a scan before releasing them. SMH. I agree MJ. These cops had absolutely NOTHING to do with this poor soul's death.
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    Not making excuses but this is a very tiny hospital. 25 beds.
    I understood every word you said. It was the order that you said them that has me confused.

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