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    Steven Avery & Brendan Dassey get new representation

    Steven Avery from 'Making a Murderer' Gets New Representation
    By JOI-MARIE MCKENZIE
    Jan 9, 2016, 1:25 PM ET

    A high-profile attorney is now representing Steven Avery, the subject of a popular Netflix series "Making a Murderer."

    Kathleen Zellner of The Law Firm of Kathleen Zellner and Associates, P.C. in Downers Grove, Illinois, announced in a press release Friday that the firm "will be assuming the full and complete representation of Steven Avery in all criminal matters."
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    Found an interesting write-up of Kathleen Zellner. It gives some nice detail about her background and her philosophy.

    http://www.lawcrossing.com/article/3...een-T-Zellner/
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    Statement from SA's new lawyer today.
    https://localtvwiti.files.wordpress....6/01/avery.pdf

    Ms. Zellner will not be doing any interviews about the Steven A very case at this time.
    We are continuing to examine every aspect of Mr. Avery's case and all of his legal options. We
    are confident Mr. Avery's conviction will be vacated when we present the new evidence and
    results of our work to the appropriate court.
    Not sure if this is the right place for this... feel free to move it if it needs to be

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    I'm a big fan of Kathleen Zellner so I look forward to seeing how her work on this case turns out.

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    This is a really long article with an interview with SA's gf, well ex-gf apparently lol I found this part about Zellner interesting since it seemed like she jumped on this quick. If this is true, she had the files already, and who knows with the hype around this series, maybe she started looking.

    Four years ago, Sandy contacted Kathleen Zellner, a high-profile Chicago attorney with a long list of post-conviction victories under her belt, begging her to take Avery's case.
    Sandy said: 'I kept emailing and I wrote, 'It's me again, I'm sorry, I'm stalking you but I feel so strongly - you're the one that's going to get him out.'
    'Initially, she could not take the case because she was too busy. But she kept Steve's files and said some day she might be able to look at it again.'
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3x0TXENni

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    http://wbay.com/2016/01/11/gov-walke...o-conclusions/

    If this is true, looks like Kathrine Zellner will be representing BD, as well as SA. Interesting.

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    Interesting to say the least.

    This ONE sided, BIAS, PROPAGANDA filled documentary with defense themed music wasn't created on accident...

    May Theresa FINALLY get the Justice she deserves, her family receive factual closure ( Pray none of them are in on this, for HER sake) and the guys get a FAIR & JUST trial along with an IMPARTIAL JURY.
    Keeping in mind they are PRESUMED INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty, in a court of law.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaiddie View Post
    http://wbay.com/2016/01/11/gov-walke...o-conclusions/

    If this is true, looks like Kathrine Zellner will be representing BD, as well as SA. Interesting.

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    All defense lawyers should make potential jurors sign up and post on Websleuths for a week.

    Just so they can see these people thinking patterns. Jmo.

    Because some people don't understand Beyond A Reasonable Doubt. Jmo.

    Which somewhat means. If the glove don't fit; You must acquit. Lol

    Which in this case is that they all say she was raped and slashed and shot in the house and garage, etc. But the dna or blood spatter in either places doesn't support that gory scenario . Which simply means that in that scenario; The glove doesn't fit.

    Now if she was shot 10 times.

    Then wheres the missing 8 bullets. Especially since they should have been recovered from the pit or barrels or something. Jmo.

    There was definitely reasonable doubt in how the prosecution said it played out in both cases.

    So this means that Beyond A Reasonable Doubt for the sake of innocence ; totally went over the jurors heads. Jmo.

    Because I would have some doubt with how the prosecution said it played out. I would have rather that they didn't try to make up things and simply stated the facts with a side order of circumstantial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DexterMorgan View Post
    If the glove don't fit; You must acquit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DexterMorgan View Post

    Which in this case is that they all say she was raped and slashed and shot in the house and garage, etc. But the dna or blood spatter in either places doesn't support that gory scenario . Which simply means that in that scenario; The glove doesn't fit.
    First of all, the 'glove' did fit, OJ Simpson play acted and had a pair of latex gloves on and he made sure that glove wouldn't fit. A few of the jurors in their book said they didn't believe that spectacle by Simpson or Cochran and didn't give any weight to it. So you can put that to rest. That glove *did* fit. And he did own those "ugly ass shoes," the ones he said he would never own or wear. Pictures taken 10 months before the murder prove that very fact.

    The only way LE found out what happened to Teresa was through their interviews with Branden Dassey. Until he told them, they had no idea what all went down that day. All they knew was TH showed up, took her pictures, gave SA the receipt and was never seen alive again. Her charred remains were found in the burn pit in SA's yard. What were they to think?

    Now we can say Brendan made it all up under pressure and none of it can be believed, but without hearing what Brendan had to say, the investigators wouldn't all be saying anything about what happened during her visit as they wouldn't have known those details.

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    Hope Zellner takes a hard look at why the garage was the State's murder scene in the Avery trial and Avery's bedroom the State's murder scene in the Dassey trial. Which is it ?

    She also needs to take a hard look @ both Bobby Dassey and Scott Tadych - something is up with those two. My theory is that these two took Teresa at gunpoint out to the back of the property by the quarry, raped and killed her, and then dismembered and burned her out there. Would have been no issue for them to move some bone fragments up to the burn pit behind Avery's house, move the Rav4, and plant the key in Avery's bedroom. From the sounds of it, Tadych and Steve Avery didn't get along too well anyways. And the fact that both of them used each other as an alibi ? Did anyone else see them on the afternoon/early evening of the murder out hunting ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaiddie View Post
    http://wbay.com/2016/01/11/gov-walke...o-conclusions/

    If this is true, looks like Kathrine Zellner will be representing BD, as well as SA. Interesting.
    That would be somewhat unusual given his confession which implicates Steven. At some point, Steven or Brendan may for their own self-interest, need to implicate the other which would put an attorney representing both of them in an impossible situation.

    Brendan has very good appellate attorneys and his federal habeas petition is pending so it would be odd for him to change counsel now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsmevkb View Post
    Except of course that he's a convicted felon rightfully serving time for being a felon in possession of a firearm.
    I thought the firearm charge was odd. Esp since his "felony conviction" was overturned due to the fact that he was innocent.



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