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    Handcuffs and Leg Irons

    Another factoid not mentioned in the documentary:

    Brendan told police Teresa was handcuffed to the bed and her legs were in leg irons, connected to the bed as well.

    Here's what was not told to the audience watching the documentary: In Avery's bedroom closet police found handcuffs and leg irons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeleine74 View Post
    Another factoid not mentioned in the documentary:

    Brendan told police Teresa was handcuffed to the bed and her legs were in leg irons, connected to the bed as well.

    Here's what was not told to the audience watching the documentary: In Avery's bedroom closet police found handcuffs and leg irons.
    You mean the one's that did not have TH's DNA on them? They found DNA on them, but she was excluded from any DNA found.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9d...RUREVQQVU/view

    BD's trial Day 3, starts on page 95

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeleine74 View Post
    Another factoid not mentioned in the documentary:

    Brendan told police Teresa was handcuffed to the bed and her legs were in leg irons, connected to the bed as well.

    Here's what was not told to the audience watching the documentary: In Avery's bedroom closet police found handcuffs and leg irons.
    Actually, the first thing he said was tied with ropes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeleine74 View Post
    Another factoid not mentioned in the documentary:

    Brendan told police Teresa was handcuffed to the bed and her legs were in leg irons, connected to the bed as well.

    Here's what was not told to the audience watching the documentary: In Avery's bedroom closet police found handcuffs and leg irons.
    I have attached a picture of the cuffs they "found." Would be impossible to remove TH's DNA, while leaving others. So, imho, the cuff bit is moot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowraiths View Post
    I have attached a picture of the cuffs they "found." Would be impossible to remove TH's DNA, while leaving others. So, imho, the cuff bit is moot.
    There was a smaller set of cuffs in the brown paper bag that was on the floor which was next to the key.

    I didn't see any furry pink handles on them nor a long chain attached. They just seemed like basic handcuffs in a bag.

    So how many handcuffs does he need? Jeez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DexterMorgan View Post
    There was a smaller set of cuffs in the brown paper bag that was on the floor which was next to the key.

    I didn't see any furry pink handles on them nor a long chain attached. They just seemed like basic handcuffs in a bag.

    So how many handcuffs does he need? Jeez.
    Well... that's odd, because only 1 set was introduced into BD's trial. Look at the link that I posted above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by missy1974 View Post
    Well... that's odd, because only 1 set was introduced into BD's trial. Look at the link that I posted above.
    The handcuffs in this brown paper bag looks different than the ones shown in your posted pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DexterMorgan View Post
    The handcuffs in this brown paper bag looks different than the ones shown in your posted pictures.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/att...chmentid=87040
    if those are handcuffs... they look like little miniature one's IMO LOL I never even noticed that in the picture before. What I am saying is.... if they had more than 1 pair that they got from SA's residence, they only introduced the pink furry one's, that would seem odd, wouldn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by missy1974 View Post
    if those are handcuffs... they look like little miniature one's IMO LOL I never even noticed that in the picture before. What I am saying is.... if they had more than 1 pair that they got from SA's residence, they only introduced the pink furry one's, that would seem odd, wouldn't it?
    They seem regular but semi tucked away and not in camera focus of a shot that was taken from a further viewing.

    But they look like real cuffs to me. But I'm sure they probably seen and processed them as well.
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    The WCCA record lists those cuffs as well as cuffs and leg irons found in Barb's room. Looks like everyone had hand cuffs and leg irons? Exhibit 48,48,50. The ones at from SA's are in Exhibit 85 I think http://convolutedbrian.com.s3.amazon...ents06CF88.pdf


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    Quote Originally Posted by missy1974 View Post
    if those are handcuffs... they look like little miniature one's IMO LOL I never even noticed that in the picture before. What I am saying is.... if they had more than 1 pair that they got from SA's residence, they only introduced the pink furry one's, that would seem odd, wouldn't it?
    I did not notice those before! Thumb cuffs, perhaps?



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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowraiths View Post
    I did not notice those before! Thumb cuffs, perhaps?
    Her wrist are not that big. And those cuffs do open up. Plus they are not plastic. So who would buy official metal cuffs for a doll.

    So my point is. That those cuffs are real. But no one has blown up the picture. I doubt they were for 4 year olds to play with.

    And I doubt she had big wrists since she was petite. So hopefully those so called miniature cuffs were tested.
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    Those cuffs are miniature cuffs. They are not full size. They are in the bag closer to the viewer than the slippers, they are not farther away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowraiths View Post
    I did not notice those before! Thumb cuffs, perhaps?
    for reference, since we are talking about it here, I will post the picture (look in the bag) My opinion is still that they are awfully small and look miniature to me, not even sure they would fit on a thumb LOL Also, all I could see in documents so far is that they did remove handcuffs and leg irons from SA's and Barb's, but so far, only seen that the one's from SA were tested and introduced in BD's trial. SA's and unknown persons DNA was found on them... TH was EXCLUDED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by missy1974 View Post
    for reference, since we are talking about it here, I will post the picture (look in the bag) My opinion is still that they are awfully small and look miniature to me, not even sure they would fit on a thumb LOL Also, all I could see in documents so far is that they did remove handcuffs and leg irons from SA's and Barb's, but so far, only seen that the one's from SA were tested and introduced in BD's trial. SA's and unknown persons DNA was found on them... TH was EXCLUDED.

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    http://www.amazon.com/Set-12-Mini-Th.../dp/B002Q72AWQ

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