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    Came across an interesting walking/hiking blog about this area. Found this part extremely interesting.

    "When I finish a walk I often find myself contemplating life, realising perspective, and reminding myself how lucky I am to be alive. I crossed the stream below Rams Clough then followed a path to the right to head back down through a beautiful woodland area to the road I left earlier. On the descent through the woods I came across a Life for a Life memorial forest. Life for a Life is a charity that offers the chance to celebrate or commemorate loved ones by planting memorial trees and installing memorial benches in woodland locations across the country. I made the mistake of reading some of the memorial plaques by the trees and ended up a lot more emotional than I normal end up after finishing a walk"

    http://trekkingbritain.blogspot.co.u...reservoir.html

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    Well this is strange. As someone who regularly travels "over the tops" I can confirm Saddleworth Moor makes me shudder every time. It's so bleak up there (it's usually raining) and you can't help but think about all those poor children that the Moors Murderers buried up there. It's nowhere near anywhere else so this gentleman clearly went there intentionally, I wonder if he is in any way linked to any of the victims?

    "Fun" fact 1 - the M62 motorway at that point is the UK's highest motorway
    "Fun" fact 2 - there is a farmhouse slap bang in the middle of the motorway, the farmer refused to sell up when it was being built, so his home is now in between the lanes with tunnels built under the road so he can get to his land.
    "Fun" fact 3 - I once left my friends house having watched the film Jeepers Creepers. The M62 was shut so we drove back over the moors. Just at the point we realised we were running low on petrol and had zero phone reception I swear to god the Jeepers Creepers song came on the radio. We bricked it. Never going up there again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dotr View Post
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...-Male-Dec-1948
    Australia - Taman Shud Case - Male, Dec 1948
    Just spent ages reading the Taman Shud case. Fascinating - thanks dotr!

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    Someone in comments of earlier posted article has mentioned plane crashing on the same hill in 1949 with lots of people killed and some families wiped out, however there were 8 survivors.

    19th August 1949, BEA Dakota G-AHCY crashed on Wimberry Stones Brow above Dove Stones Reservoir in Saddleworth on its final approach to Manchester Airport, having flown from Belfast.
    Looking Down from the crash site


    http://aircrashsites.co.uk/air-crash...nes-reservoir/

    8 survivors - two women and six men. From family of five, only one boy survived. Perhaps him or some other survivor wanted to rest in peace with his family?

    More information and name of the survivors.
    http://www.peakdistrictaircrashes.co...rictg-ahcy.htm

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1949_M..._DC-3_accident
    http://hydonian.blogspot.co.uk/2014/...ant-pilot.html

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    I'm inclined to say it's more like this case:

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases-int/442umuk.html

    Another older man who took himself off up a Pennine moor and died. This one may have lain undiscovered for up to 25 years and remains unidentified almost 20 years after he was found.

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    It seems the police are looking seriously at a possible connection with the Douglas Dakota crash in 1949.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ed-family.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by MelmothTheLost View Post
    It seems the police are looking seriously at a possible connection with the Douglas Dakota crash in 1949.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ed-family.html
    Deeply moving if this event is connected to the mystery man,imo. ( as previously suggested by poster Al Kal!)
    IS MYSTERY MAN LINKED TO VICTIMS OF 1949 CRASH THAT KILLED 24?

    The crash in 1949 left 24 people dead after the plane from Belfast struck a mist-covered hill in Saddleworth, some 15 miles away from its intended destination of Manchester Ringway Airport.

    A doctor at the scene said that he saw ‘bodies scattered all over the place’ and there were 'a few survivors lying groaning on the hillside but some of them died before I could attend to them’.

    A report later found the crash was caused by ‘an error in navigation, incorrect approach procedure and failure to check the position of the aircraft accurately before the descent from a safe height’.
    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3yMykbwEa
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    The air crash was in August 1949, so no apparent anniversary involved in December 66 years later.

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    Similarly, while December 2015 was the 50th anniversary of the Saddleworth-connected Moors Murders' last victim's death, he was in fact killed, and later found, in a residence in Hattersley, Cheshire, in October 1965, and not on the moor.

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    Why did the unidentified man carry so much money as well as several travel tickets, did he become confused due to medications he may have, or should have taken?
    Could the uid man have gone to that location to release cremated remains , perhaps those of someone who did have a connection to the area, a wife??
    It might explain why he knew to go there, but not familiar with how to do it and maybe had extra money because he intended to return?
    speculation, imo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dotr View Post
    Why did the unidentified man carry so much money as well as several travel tickets, did he become confused due to medications he may have, or should have taken?
    Could the uid man have gone to that location to release cremated remains , perhaps those of someone who did have a connection to the area, a wife??
    It might explain why he knew to go there, but not familiar with how to do it and maybe had extra money because he intended to return?
    speculation, imo.
    He may well have been carrying enough cash for all his needs for the journey, so that he did not have to carry a debit card which would have identified him.

    It's possible that he bought a return train ticket even if he only intended to travel one way because at certain times it's cheaper to buy a return than a single. Though why he should worry about that if he was planning to die I have no idea.

    As to medication: Levothyroxine is prescribed to correct a shortfall in the level of hormones which are produced by the thyroid. The intention is to ensure that the hormone level is brought into line with a normal range. However it takes a while (weeks to months) for the medication to raise thyroid hormone levels to a typical normal one, and a similar period of time for the effects to wear off. So he couldn't just become confused because he hadn't taken his dose that day (though a reversible type of dementia is one of the effects of inadequate thyroid hormones). In fact, he didn't need to carry the tablets with him at all if he was planning a one way trip to die.

    I've not seen any mention of a cremains urn being found in the area, nor of traces of cremains being found on him. That hillside would have been at least breezy if not windy so if cremains had been scattered some would almost certainly have blown back onto his clothes.

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    What an unusual case! And odd that no one has identified him- surely this is a big story over there, right?
    Six-year-old Shannon Sherrill disappeared from her front yard in Thorntown, Indiana in October, 1986. Someone knows where she is......

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...annon+sherrill

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    What a beautiful picture Al Ka posted upthread.

    Im fairly sure I read that he had only bought a single ticket. As to an urn, Im presuming the cctv pictures released were taken at the ticket counter at Ealing station, he doent appear to have any bag etc on him, unless of course he picked something up in Manchester

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    Quote Originally Posted by meanmaryjean View Post
    What an unusual case! And odd that no one has identified him- surely this is a big story over there, right?
    Hmm Im not so sure, I hadnt noticed anything in the papers or on the news about this until a few days ago. Although Im 200 miles away in Scotland

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    Somehow reminded of an older Peter Townsend from The Who, and the main character in the film, Quadrophenia. imo.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadro...8soundtrack%29
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