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  1. #31
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    Daniel Shaver - you will not be forgotten, even by those who never knew you. You will not have died in vain.
    "A word after a word after a word is power."
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    This case just proves that actions have consequences. It all started, when Mr. Shaver made the horrible decision to point his riffle out his Hotel window.

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    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...racism/546983/
    A Police Killing Without a Hint of Racism
    Daniel Shaver begged officers not to shoot him. What role will his death play in the push for law-enforcement reforms?
    12/3/2017
    [...]
    And here is an excerpt from the incident report produced by a Mesa police officer, who watched the body-cam footage of the encounter and described what happened from beginning to end. Throughout the events about to be described, Daniel Shaver is totally unarmed, and wearing basketball shorts and a t-shirt:

    Shaver could be partially seen walking from the alcove into the hallway a split second after Sgt. Langley shouted for them to stop. Shaver raised his hands in the air prior to any further command, round the alcove into the hallway and immediately dropped to his knees with his hands in the air facing the officers ... Sgt. Lanley shouted for both of them to get on the ground. Shaver placed his hands in front of him and laid down on the ground on the south side of the hallway with his hands extended above his head. In the video, Shaver appeared to be wearing a dark colored shirt and dark shorts. No weapon was visible in the video, but also it was not clear Shaver did not have a weapon from the camera view. Shaver was, however, obviously compliant and offered no resistance at that point.
    Sgt. Langley asked Shaver if there was anyone else in the room and Shaver answered that there was no one else in the room ... Sgt. Langley then calmly asked if both of them could understand him ... Sgt. Langley then stated, "Alright, if you make another mistake, there is a very severe possibility you are both going to get shot, do you understand?"
    Shaver responded "Yes" to this question ... Sgt. Langley then began to talk when Shaver started to ask a question by saying "what's––". Sgt. Langley told Shaver to shut up and stated that he was not there to be tactful and diplomatic with Shaver and they need to obey his commands. At that point, Shaver's outstretched arms had both palms facing up so the officers could see his hands. As Sgt. Langley was saying they needed to obey his commands. Shaver moved both his arms in front of his face in a similar manner to what would occur when someone is lying on their stomach and intending to rest their head in their crossed arms. Sgt. Langley took note of this and asked Shaver if he had told Shaver to move. Shaver immediately moved his hand back out in front of him with his palms facing up and said, "I'm sorry. No, sir."
    Sgt. Langley then ordered Shaver to place his hands on the back of his head and interlace his fingers. Shaver was again compliant. Sgt. Langley then told Shaver to cross his left foot over his right foot. Shaver complied with this but appeared confused as to which foot Sgt. Langley had ordered him to cross. He crossed his feet both ways before finally crossing his feet as Sgt. Langley had instructed. Sgt. Langley then asked again who else was in the room and Shaver responded with "nobody."
    Sgt. Langley then asked if both of them were drunk and they both responded that they were not ... He then told Shaver that he turn his eyes down and look at the carpet and not move. He further instructed that Shaver needed to keep his fingers interlaced on his head and his legs crossed. Sgt. Langley then told Shaver that if he moved, it would be considered a threat and the officers would have to deal with that and Shaver "may not survive it." Shaver acknowledged with “yes sir” when asked if he understood this.

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    An Arizona jury is expected to hear closing arguments and perhaps begin deliberations Tuesday

    https://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/tria...-end/496932861

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    the jury is deliberating and a verdict may come in this week. Such a very sad case, all the way around...
    "A word after a word after a word is power."
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    https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ing/927052001/
    Former Mesa Officer Philip Brailsford found not guilty of murder in shooting of unarmed man
    Published 4:18 p.m. MT Dec. 7, 2017 | Updated 5:13 p.m. MT Dec. 7, 2017

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    https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ing/927052001/
    Mesa officer-shooting: Photos from the scene
    Mesa police Officer Philip "Mitch" Brailsford's AR-15 service weapon, which was used in the Jan. 18, 2016, shooting of Daniel Shaver, was etched with the phrase "You're F---ed." Mesa Police Department



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    His lawyer said:

    "There are no winners in this case, but Mitch Brailsford had to make a split-second decision on a situation that he was trained to recognize as someone drawing a weapon and had one second to react," Piccarreta said.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...murder-n827641

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    AZ - Officer acquitted in shooting of Daniel Shaver

    I did a search but didn't find a thread on this. Warning, the video is VERY disturbing.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mesa-po...turbing-video/

    Mesa Police shooting: Daniel Shaver seen crawling, begging in disturbing video

    MESA -- Police in Mesa, Arizona released disturbing body camera video on Thursday hours after a former officer was acquitted of a murder charge in the fatal shooting of an unarmed man.

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    Video here

    https://www.facebook.com/27068796643...5496006951803/

    and here

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.4666a8d0cc4d

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    Murderers. Out of control, brutal murderers. "You're ****ed", indeed.
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    Here is the horrific--I mean horrific, in the strongest sense of the word--video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M62V...ature=youtu.be

    That is a stone cold execution, that is murder.

    The man is crawling on the ground and you shoot him in the head. **** you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by illyana View Post
    Here is the horrific--I mean horrific, in the strongest sense of the word--video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M62V...ature=youtu.be

    That is a stone cold execution, that is murder.

    The man is crawling on the ground and you shoot him in the head. **** you.
    How terrible is this? This does not happen in the rest of the civilised world. The US should think about joining it, one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer17 View Post
    How terrible is this? This does not happen in the rest of the civilised world. The US should think about joining it, one day.
    Hey you know what? At least in the US, life means life. Don't come at me with your failed justice systems. Murder? ****, if I wanted to murder someone, which I do not, since I'm a moral person, but if I was an ******* like your state loves so much, I would do it in Australia, since your punishments for murder are pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by illyana View Post
    Hey you know what? At least in the US, life means life. Don't come at me with your failed justice systems. Murder? ****, if I wanted to murder someone, which I do not, since I'm a moral person, but if I was an ******* like your state loves so much, I would do it in Australia, since your punishments for murder are pathetic.
    I think it's safe to say that most justice systems around the world do not work particularly well, including the Australian one... I know, I live there... but please do not promote it as a place to commit murder, even if only as a puerile response to someone's comments about the US system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by illyana View Post
    Hey you know what? At least in the US, life means life. Don't come at me with your failed justice systems. Murder? ****, if I wanted to murder someone, which I do not, since I'm a moral person, but if I was an ******* like your state loves so much, I would do it in Australia, since your punishments for murder are pathetic.
    Your post is way out of line.

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