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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by missy1974 View Post
    You might be thinking of Lenk. He is the one that was never shown as signing in, but signed out later.. much later. 22:41 We see that in the documentary I think. And in his testimony.

    http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-co...ar-Crusher.pdf
    With his name suspiciously small and stuck between two others? what was that?

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    about the VIN...

    Remiker's testimony....page 139

    A Yes. I couldn't read all the VIN numbers and I asked either Lieutenant Hermann or Sergeant Orth for a flashlight because I -- I thought that would help with glares and different -- the lighting conditions weren't the greatest to see, plus the VIN plate was moved or tampered with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticJynx View Post
    With his name suspiciously small and stuck between two others? what was that?
    lol wrong log... that was the March one ;-) the one I just linked was the Nov 5th one, the "car crusher" one

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    It has also been speculated, if one knew what they were doing, VIN's could easily be removed. And TH's was tampered with.
    Quote Originally Posted by missy1974 View Post
    There were conflicting reports early on with the color (blue or green) and the year of her vehicle. IMO the different look to the vehicle is because of lighting. Some vehicle colors are just made that way. (my parents own a van that is like a dang chameleon LOL it looks grey or blue or green, depending on the lighting)

    Now I do remember seeing a snippet of testimony with one of the officers that said the VIN was tampered with... anyone know which officer that was?

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    SA is looking more and more like a genius, IMO

    ( To be able to construct something so, complicated and BIZARRE )

    If he is indeed guilty.
    Last edited by dexter75; 02-10-2016 at 01:08 AM.

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    Who took these photos? Do we know for sure?
    ( Of RAV4, ALL of them? When it was found? At crime lab? While it was being processed at both locations? )

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    Quote Originally Posted by missy1974 View Post
    lol wrong log... that was the March one ;-) the one I just linked was the Nov 5th one, the "car crusher" one
    Laughs so much evidence hard to keep it all filed away in the right order! ha thanks for clearing that up. so then why was it squeezed in in the March one? that is weird too. Cause really they all knew he shouldn't have been there?

    I dont know what I would do with out you Missy, You are helping to keep me organized.

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    And I don't understand the speculation that it wasnt her car at all? Maybe they tampered with it so they could say he tried to remove that too and/or also plant that on him? Anyone ever swab that vin number plate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dexter75 View Post
    Who took these photos? Do we know for sure?
    ( Of RAV4, ALL of them? When it was found? At crime lab? While it was being processed at both locations? )
    some were Pam Strum. Ertl (from the lab) went out with a photo guy... Guang Zhang.

    While looking for the photographers name... I read this... day 6 pg 14-15 Ertl's testimony... sorry, too lazy to take out the line numbers LOL

    9 A. Okay. These cars parked along here were kind of

    10 older looking, the paint was faded; they looked

    11 like they belonged there in the salvage yard.

    12 The RAV4 looked a little different, it was shiny.

    13 And it had an old Rambler hood leaned up against

    14 the back panel. It had a piece of plywood up

    15 against the front end, on the side.

    16 It had several tree branches up against

    17 the back. Had a cardboard box sitting on the

    18 hood. And had quite a large 12 to 15 foot tall

    19 tree that kind of looked like it had been ripped

    20 out of the ground, still had roots attached, was

    21 leaning up against and over the hood. The other

    22 vehicles there had been parked there and there

    23 were saplings growing up around them. But this

    24 one had detached tree limbs and things around it.

    25 The Rambler hood and some fence posts

    1 were leaned up against the car. The other cars

    2 didn't have that sort of stuff around them; the

    3 car was sitting there and there was vegetation

    4 growing up around them. So it looked a little

    5 odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticJynx View Post
    Laughs so much evidence hard to keep it all filed away in the right order! ha thanks for clearing that up. so then why was it squeezed in in the March one? that is weird too. Cause really they all knew he shouldn't have been there?

    I dont know what I would do with out you Missy, You are helping to keep me organized.
    You have no idea how many tabs I have open... LOL It is getting to the point that I know what day someone testified LOL ANDDD I still haven't read it all. Other than Dr. Fairgrieve, I haven't read any other defense testimony, and I have jumped around on the states witnesses, so trying to go back and start from day 1 and go through them... I skip through some that I have read numerous times. SOOO much info! and just wait... in a few days, they will dump another load of documents LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticJynx View Post
    And I don't understand the speculation that it wasnt her car at all? Maybe they tampered with it so they could say he tried to remove that too and/or also plant that on him? Anyone ever swab that vin number plate?
    Really? bahahahaha you think they would think of that on their own? LOL

    I think the vin might have something to do with her vehicle and maybe she didn't even know it. I have seen posts elsewhere that the info is conflicting, even from Toyota. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by missy1974 View Post
    You have no idea how many tabs I have open... LOL It is getting to the point that I know what day someone testified LOL ANDDD I still haven't read it all. Other than Dr. Fairgrieve, I haven't read any other defense testimony, and I have jumped around on the states witnesses, so trying to go back and start from day 1 and go through them... I skip through some that I have read numerous times. SOOO much info! and just wait... in a few days, they will dump another load of documents LOL
    Waiting for the Dedering reports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticJynx View Post
    Waiting for the Dedering reports.
    He went to talk to Zipperer... right? He's the one that was waiting in the hallway but Kratz never called him to the stand? Buting/Stang should have grrrrrr

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    Quote Originally Posted by dexter75 View Post
    It has also been speculated, if one knew what they were doing, VIN's could easily be removed. And TH's was tampered with.
    Are you all suggesting a stand in Rav4? But why not just use her Rav4? I have to admit the damage to the car is intriguing. This case just gets weirder...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justiceseeker35 View Post
    Are you all suggesting a stand in Rav4? But why not just use her Rav4? I have to admit the damage to the car is intriguing. This case just gets weirder...
    Not all lol but yes, it's been speculated. IMO it's the same vehicle, if it wasn't ... Buting and Stang would have been all over that, no?

    Whether TH caused the damage.... she hit something... something hit her.... someone hit her... or whoever took the RAV4 damaged it on the way to the Salvage yard.... something happened to the RAV4.

    My thought process on it.... hopefully I can make sense haha IF SA damaged the RAV4 taking it (driving or towing) and hiding it there, why would he pick up the signal light and put it in the back of the RAV4? He would, presumably, be driving it through an auto salvage lot.... why not just leave it there and move on, it definitely wouldn't have been out of place lol If TH hit something... maybe an animal (a deer? I would expect more damage, but not always), I can see her pulling over, seeing the light is broken and yanking it out, or picking it up so she doesn't lose it and put it in the back of the RAV4. If someone hit her.... she would pull over... maybe pick it up, put it in the back.

    She was missing a tool from the RAV4.... there IS blood spatter on the back door. We know at some point she WAS in the back of that RAV4. It just seems more conceivable to me that she was knocked out or something at the back of her RAV4 while the door was open.... why would her door be open? to put the light in and to get a tool to maybe deal with the wheel well that is now cracked and hitting/rubbing the tire and needed to be removed?

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