1219 users online (205 members and 1014 guests)  



Websleuths News


Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 35
  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    14,494

    CA - The Curious Case Of The Man In The U.S. Illegally And His Stolen Car


    Pedro Figueroa, 31, reported his car stolen. When San Francisco law enforcement officers found out there was a warrant for his arrest, they called federal immigration officials.
    Pedro Figueroa recently reported to San Francisco police that his car had been stolen. When it was recovered, the police summoned Figueroa to a neighborhood station, where they asked for proof that he owned the car. They also ran his name to check for warrants.

    "And they come up with a hit on a warrant in the criminal justice system," San Francisco Sheriff Vicki Hennessy says.

    The police had called her agency for help to check for what's known as a failure-to-appear warrant issued by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. It turned out that Figueroa, 31, was in this country illegally. So a sheriff's clerk called the feds. But Hennessy said no one seemed to know what the warrant was for. Since the police didn't have enough information to hold Figueroa, they decided to release him. And that's when Figueroa's story really got complicated.

    http://www.npr.org/2016/02/16/465278...his-stolen-car
    "When from a long distant past nothing persists, after the people are dead, after things are broken and scattered, still alone, more persistent, more faithful, the smell and taste of things remain poised a long, long time like souls, ready to remind us, waiting, hoping for their moment amid the ruins of all the rest, and bear unfaltering in the tiny and almost impalpable drop of their essence the vast structure of recollection."

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    4,868
    Sanctuary cities in the United States - utterly ridiculous. Send the illegal back where he came from and auction his car.

    "In a time of universal deceit -- telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Coos Bay, Oregon
    Posts
    2,596
    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
    Sanctuary cities in the United States - utterly ridiculous. Send the illegal back where he came from and auction his car.

    So you are advocating deporting someone without due process and stealing his property? If that is correct, you are in the wrong country. Because we have a Constitution that prohibits that type of thing.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    4,868
    Quote Originally Posted by KaaBoom View Post
    So you are advocating deporting someone without due process and stealing his property? If that is correct, you are in the wrong country. Because we have a Constitution that prohibits that type of thing.
    I believe we also have laws on "legal" entry to this country. Am I wrong? I further believe NO city in these United States has a right to harbor criminals/law breakers/illegal aliens. Someone needs to put paid to this travesty, although the whole state seems to be drying up. Maybe there will be justice after all, who can tell?

    "In a time of universal deceit -- telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

  5. #5
    U2forever's Avatar
    U2forever is offline It's no secret that a conscience can sometimes be a pest
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Aikenfeet, South Carolina
    Posts
    1,036
    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
    I believe we also have laws on "legal" entry to this country. Am I wrong? I further believe NO city in these United States has a right to harbor criminals/law breakers/illegal aliens. Someone needs to put paid to this travesty, although the whole state seems to be drying up. Maybe there will be justice after all, who can tell?

    Trident I agree. I may be wrong here but we may have laws in place but they are not enforced anymore and the lawmakers and such turn a blind eye. Even when illegals murder, rape and pillage. Oh, they have rights. Give em a J.O.B. Give em free healthcare. Give em housing. Give em foodstamps. But only if they are violent and illegal!! I am sick to death of this sh#%. Rights my a$$!

    I am all for helping, as I do as much as I can in my community and I am involved in a few charities around the world.

    If you bring yourself to our country LEGALLY, I am all for helping out. Education, healthcare, food, housing, but not a free ride. After you get established, you and your family should pay your way just like the rest of us. There are many who do and don't exploit the system.

    As for Refugees, I am all for helping the displaced as I believe it's a tragedy to lose your home and your country. As Americans, we have no idea what it's like to go through such horror everyday and to live in fear.

    I have a handful of chronic debilitating pain issues and am unable to work outside the home anymore and I cannot get a dime. I was born in this great country and it saddens me I am left out in the cold and illegals get what I so desperately need. Maybe one day I will get healthcare to help out with my massive medical bills and disability.

    I apologize for my rant. I never seek out confrontation or fights here, I always steer clear of political and racial matters because I get very upset when everyone fights and that's not what I am about. We all have an opinion and for once I said my peace.

    love and hugs.

    If You Want To Go Fast Go Alone, If You Want To Go Far, Go Together - African Proverb



  6. #6
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Coos Bay, Oregon
    Posts
    2,596
    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
    I believe we also have laws on "legal" entry to this country. Am I wrong? I further believe NO city in these United States has a right to harbor criminals/law breakers/illegal aliens. Someone needs to put paid to this travesty, although the whole state seems to be drying up. Maybe there will be justice after all, who can tell?

    So you believe that immigration laws override the constitution? Thats not the way it works.

    The first immigration laws were passed in 1875 to keep Asians out of the US, and they have been used to discriminate against various groups ever since.

    Fortunately the Constitution trumps the racist immigration laws, and there are people, even entire cities who stand up in support of the Constitution against these racist laws.
    Last edited by KaaBoom; 02-16-2016 at 12:42 PM.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    4,868
    Quote Originally Posted by KaaBoom View Post
    So you believe that immigration laws override the constitution? Thats not the way it works.

    The first immigration laws were passed in 1875 to keep Asians out of the US, and they have been used to discriminate against various groups ever since.

    Fortunately the Constitution trumps the racist immigration laws.
    We could argue Constitution until the cows come home, but at the moment we're talking about an ILLEGAL alien who needs to get his azz booted out of this country. IMO
    "In a time of universal deceit -- telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Coos Bay, Oregon
    Posts
    2,596
    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
    We could argue Constitution until the cows come home, but at the moment we're talking about an ILLEGAL alien who needs to get his azz booted out of this country. IMO
    You don’t have to like it, but you’ve still got to deal with the Constitution, before you can do that.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    4,868
    Quote Originally Posted by KaaBoom View Post
    You don’t have to like it, but you’ve still got to deal with the Constitution, before you can do that.
    It isn't up to ME to "do that", it's up to law enforcement, the guys who are hired/paid to do that, but had their hands tied.

    If you want illegals in this country, so be it. I don't. I agree to disagree with you.
    "In a time of universal deceit -- telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Coos Bay, Oregon
    Posts
    2,596
    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
    It isn't up to ME to "do that", it's up to law enforcement, the guys who are hired/paid to do that, but had their hands tied.

    If you want illegals in this country, so be it. I don't. I agree to disagree with you.
    Law enforcement will have to deal with the Constitution before they can do it. Again immigration law does not trump the Constitution, nor should it.


  11. #11
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Location
    Under a bridge
    Posts
    9,214
    And who is this helping?

    For now, Pedro Figueroa sits in an ICE detention center just east of San Francisco. The immigration court considers his case to be such a priority that it has scheduled a hearing based on his original asylum claim for November 2019.
    Grant him asylum and move on. He's been waiting since 2005!

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Up North
    Posts
    5,335
    Pedro should be deported, IMO.

    Despite the blatantly progressive bent to the story by NPR, Pedro is here illegally. He is an illegal alien, a criminal, subject to our laws.

    "Sanctuary city" policies are unconstitutional, IMO.

    Pedro, and all illegals should be deported when they are discovered, IMO. No amnesty. No residency. No services. And I believe constitutional rights to "due process" should be for citizens, not illegals.

    It's the "right" of the citizens that our government should follow the laws and deport illegal aliens.

    Pedro is here illegally. He's been here illegally in excess of 10 years. Pedro needs to be deported, as soon as possible. There are really no other issues that need to be processed in the courts, IMO. Give the proceeds from the auction of Pedro's car to ICE.

    No open borders. No sanctuary cities. Welcome LEGAL immigrants. Deport illegal aliens. It's quite simple. We have laws that need to be enforced for the good of the country as a whole, and each citizen. And that includes Pedro.

    He should have been deported when he was picked up for the DUI years ago! THAT is the real crime!

    (And Pedro and other illegals ARE aliens-- criminals for their illegal entry and illegal residency, not "immigrants" or "undocumented migrants" or some other such touchy feely euphemistic blather.)

    "JMO"

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Location
    Under a bridge
    Posts
    9,214
    Quote Originally Posted by K_Z View Post
    (And Pedro and other illegals ARE aliens-- criminals for their illegal entry and illegal residency, not "immigrants" or "undocumented migrants" or some other such touchy feely euphemistic blather.)

    "JMO"
    No, he didn't enter the country illegally. He came here seeking asylum.

    And then...
    Immigration authorities released him from custody pending a hearing.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Up North
    Posts
    5,335
    And to add, right now there are in excess of 184,000 illegal aliens in this country who HAVE HAD due process thru the court system and HAVE VALID, LEGAL DEPORTATION ORDERS. Pedro is one of those. Let’s start to solve the illegal alien problem by deporting the 184,000 who ALREADY HAVE DEPORTATION ORDERS. Then we can argue some more about what to do about the other 11 million illegal aliens.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Coos Bay, Oregon
    Posts
    2,596
    Quote Originally Posted by K_Z View Post
    And to add, right now there are in excess of 184,000 illegal aliens in this country who HAVE HAD due process thru the court system and HAVE VALID, LEGAL DEPORTATION ORDERS.
    Source?

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast


Similar Threads

  1. The case of the stolen nuts
    By BetteDavisEyes in forum Bizarre and Off-Beat News
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 07-08-2015, 12:05 AM