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    NY - Brooklyn, WhtFem UP8516, 18-30, very short arms & legs, Aug'90

    NamUs UP Case 8516

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/8516




    Unidentified Female

    * Found August 20, 1990 in Kings County, NY
    * Estimated Year of Death: 1990

    Vital Statistics
    * Estimated age: 18-30 years old
    * Approximate Height: 50' estimated
    * Distinguishing Characteristics: Hair blond/strawberry 10'; eyes brown;
    5" scar on lower abdomen below navel; arms and legs are disproportionally short in relation to the torso.

    * Dentals: Dental information / charting is available and will be entered later
    * Clothing/Jewelry: nothing.


    * DNA: Available is currently not available

    Case History:
    Unknown white female was found unresponsive in a car in an enclosed garage at 55 Van Dam Street. There was a male in the car as well.

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    Do they know who the male is?

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    5" scar on lower abdomen below navel; arms and legs are disproportionally short in relation to the torso.
    Ok, so possible c-section (based on age I would doubt a hysterectomy) or other abdominal surgery and very likely Achondroplasia (Dwarfism).

    I point out those words (Achondroplasia and Dwarfism) because the missing reports may use those and not use the same language as the ME here.

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    I feel like this is missing so much information.

    Who owned the car? Who was the male? Was the male alive? How did they die (Meaning, was she put in the car after death, was it an accident, or did they die of carbon monoxide poisoning?)?

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    Bump.

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    This case is a little odd. If she was found responsive in the car, that implies (in my mind) that she was still alive possibly, like, in a coma. Which means to me that she should have a recognizable face. Or, if her face was unrecognizable, it wouldn't be due to decomposition, but maybe trauma.
    Having said that, if she were indeed dead when she was discovered, hence the decomp, then why don't they just say "unidentified female remains found in car, along with a male." The circumstances are worded very oddly and./or cryptically, or someone messed up, IMHO.
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    it sounds to me like a carbon monoxide suicide.

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    "Unresponsive" is LE-speak; since they can't legally pronounce death, they can't say they found her dead.

    Carbon monoxide poisoning would fit the circumstances.


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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuff View Post
    "Unresponsive" is LE-speak; since they can't legally pronounce death, they can't say they found her dead.
    Carbon monoxide poisoning would fit the circumstances.
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    I just figured if she were decomposing, they wouldn't need to pronounce her dead, it would just be obvious that she were, like when they find skeletal remains.
    I understand what you're saying, though.
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    I'm just confused. They can't say that there was a man there and then not explain who he was and what his significance is!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleykins View Post
    I just figured if she were decomposing, they wouldn't need to pronounce her dead, it would just be obvious that she were, like when they find skeletal remains.
    I understand what you're saying, though.
    Well, yeah, common sense would say that, wouldn't it...but.
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    Okay, I think I found the address in street view. I'm not sure exactly which door goes with the address; probablh the one that says https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7268...7i13312!8i6656

    It appears to be a completely commercial area, with none of the upstairs apartments etc. you often see in that part of NYC.
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    Does "no clothing" mean she's in the car nekkid?

    Did a jealous wife/husband maybe shoot both of them at the same time & LE is being polite?

    Was the car in a garage, on the street, still at the dealership, on a lift in a repair shop, on the train to Florida....

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    Most likely whoever entered this case just typed in the medical examiner's report, or the police report about the incident, or something like that. No clothing could mean she was naked or it could mean the report didn't say anything about clothing.

    The google street view of the address shows small commercial garages with a walk-in door and a garage door. One seems to be a candy distributor and another maybe a window washer. Of course that's now; no telling what was there in 1990.
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    Carbuff, I looked at your cool Google Street View, thanks! I'm into preservation & want that building across the street with the brick arches.

    We need to know more to figure out this young lady's name!

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