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    Lightbulb 1989 Arson Clues

    http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/1...-a-1989-arson/

    I know we have discussed the Heinrich arson connection on other threads, but I keep coming back to it.

    As much as I want Jacob to walk into his childhood home tomorrow, the burning and demolition of this house, so shortly after the abduction, seems so obvious.

    Heinrich wasn't suspected in the arson when the house, right down to the infill, was hauled away. No one was watching for a charred body. Does it not seem likely that Heinrich burned that house down to dispose of Jacob's little body? Isn't that why this case never gets anywhere?

    I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts.

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    I think that the fire department and investigators are very conscious of looking for a dead body.

    I imagine in a fire of unknown origin they are looking. And I think insurance companies are looking too. They hate to part with a penny
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    Yes. You are right about that. (Sigh). There is something more to that house burning though. He knew the people that owned it, had burglarized it before and taken photographs back to his house.
    What was the deal????? So creepy. Then he burned it to the ground 3 weeks after Jacob's abduction.
    So frustrating!! Where's Jacob? Where did he put him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Viewfinder View Post
    http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/1...-a-1989-arson/

    I know we have discussed the Heinrich arson connection on other threads, but I keep coming back to it.

    As much as I want Jacob to walk into his childhood home tomorrow, the burning and demolition of this house, so shortly after the abduction, seems so obvious.

    Heinrich wasn't suspected in the arson when the house, right down to the infill, was hauled away. No one was watching for a charred body. Does it not seem likely that Heinrich burned that house down to dispose of Jacob's little body? Isn't that why this case never gets anywhere?

    I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts.
    The fire was investigated as an arson, and the source was determined to originate from a basement storage room. It's my belief that if there were a body in the fire, that there would have been evidence found of that.

    The arson is more compelling, in my opinion, as an element of behavioral patterns of serial violent offenders. The two characteristics are strongly linked.

    Suggested reading: Mindhunters by John Douglas, excellent book

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Viewfinder View Post
    Yes. You are right about that. (Sigh). There is something more to that house burning though. He knew the people that owned it, had burglarized it before and taken photographs back to his house.
    What was the deal????? So creepy. Then he burned it to the ground 3 weeks after Jacob's abduction.
    So frustrating!! Where's Jacob? Where did he put him?
    Something that has received little, if any, attention in the media is that another home next door caught fire on October 12, 1989.

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    It makes me sad to think that sweet Jacob was still home with his family, tucked into his cozy bed on October 12, 1989. Geez, sometimes life is unfair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELOCsoul View Post
    Something that has received little, if any, attention in the media is that another home next door caught fire on October 12, 1989.
    Do you know anything about that fire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffetoflies View Post
    Do you know anything about that fire?
    I know it was very close to the other fire, and that the triad of violent criminal behavior includes bed wetting, arson, and serial molestation.

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    I wonder why bed wetting is part of this? What does it indicate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Viewfinder View Post
    I wonder why bed wetting is part of this? What does it indicate?
    Not sure. Also, cruelty to animals is another common precursor


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    The cruelty to animals makes sense. The bed wetting is curious though. Is it physiological? Are criminals brains less developed leading to delayed physical development? Is it an insecurity thing, since many are abused as kids? Very curious.

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    I imagine the bed wetting is by the abused child although some kids wet the bed because of small capacity.

    Another thing is obesity in women. They eat to make themselves unattractive to the abuser, it is felt

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    Yeah, the Macdonald Triad, we've been discussing it a bit in the Avery thread. IF you've researched it, and BELIEVE it to be true,I suppose. I don't know. Some studies, ugh. I'm NOT at all anti research. Just really like to read several sources before clicking on one link and taking it as gospel is all. The Macdonald Triad has been " debunked " so to speak, by " other " studies. IMO, it probably comes down to WHO is conducting the study? Person(s) being studied? Number of subjects in the study? Ect. JMO
    Quote Originally Posted by ELOCsoul View Post
    I know it was very close to the other fire, and that the triad of violent criminal behavior includes bed wetting, arson, and serial molestation.

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    But, if they were not looking for a body?
    I absolutely get your point here, I know it's hard to tell via text =) I just can't help but wonder THEN with the LACK of experience and obvious, not so sharp " missing persons training " ( sorry, don't know how to put it I guess ) maybe the proper " experts " weren't called in? I'm just guessing/thinking out loud. Bouncing off of what Red Viewfinder had said earlier. If no one was even thinking of remains, perhaps no one looked? Just DH being SO confident poor Jacob will never be found, is very scary.
    Quote Originally Posted by ELOCsoul View Post
    The fire was investigated as an arson, and the source was determined to originate from a basement storage room. It's my belief that if there were a body in the fire, that there would have been evidence found of that.

    The arson is more compelling, in my opinion, as an element of behavioral patterns of serial violent offenders. The two characteristics are strongly linked.

    Suggested reading: Mindhunters by John Douglas, excellent book

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    Just thinking about this again this morning, although I don't have time right now to look up links...
    I need to look up when LE first had eyes on Heinrich. They said it was 24/7 for a long time. Wouldn't they have seen him going to this house? Am I remembering correctly that LE had men on Lake Koronis (right across the highway from this home) for a while? Did they start doing this after the fire? Did they connect or suspect that DJH had some sort of involvement in the fire and that's why they were there afterwards? Or were they there during the time of the fire? If so, why didn't they notice it in time? The house was completely destroyed. I want to figure out a timeline, but in the meantime just wanted to throw that out there. If this has already been timelined, I'd appreciate being pointed in that direction.

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