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  1. #46
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    This is when I hope his "self preservation" instinct will kick in. I am really hopeful that he will provide details LE desperately needs to charge everyone involved. One of my concerns is the "snitches get stitches" adage and he will not give up CWW or MS to save his own self, in fear he will suffer repercussions in prison.

    If he has any smidgeon of moral compass at all, it is my hope he will talk. Hopefully the State Attorney has some kind of deal they will be willing to put on the table as incentive. Otherwise, what is in it for him? That part concerns me, especially if MS has promised to "take care" of his family with the life insurance proceeds should he get them, IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by IM4TRUTH View Post
    Why are his cheeks so red?
    Pick from the following options...

    1. Been *****-slapped by the booking officer
    2. Sunburn from first 2 hours in Florida
    3. Too many Margaritas during the drive down to Florida
    4. Elevated blood pressure caused by being one BIG step closer to a lethal injection

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobbywoo View Post
    Very interesting, thank you! I didn't realize there was a maximum security area out there. Makes more sense now. Is that where CWW is or is he downtown?
    That I am not sure. On his booking info, it says Jail-2: E-block. I am not sure if Jail 2 is the Ortiz facility or the downtown facility. The Ortiz facility has the CORE units (max security), the Stockade (medium sec) and the CPU units (min security). The downtown facility is all max security. I am assuming they would keep him in maximum security due to his charges, so am also assuming that means he is downtown, because otherwise it should say CORE not jail. Just guessing though!

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    I'm concerned that even if JR does talk, he doesn't know enough about MS's involvement to get a conviction. IMO, with what we know so far, CWW would have to be the one talking to pull it all together and I do not want him to get a deal! He has possibly 2 murders at least under his belt. Unless he wants to give the RB family a bit of closure I say no deal. That being said, it sounds like there is a lot more info coming out before trial and hopefully good solid evidence will get rid of the need to bargain with any of these 3

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    I just noticed that JR is being housed in the exact same cell/dorm in CORE as the guy arrested for killing his family and child last month in Fort Myers. CORE-DORM 06S That must be where they put the super violent offenders in the Ortiz facility. Since it says dorm, I am assuming there are more than just them two in that dorm. I bet that is a scary place

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    To JRR:

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtate0702 View Post
    I just noticed that JR is being housed in the exact same cell/dorm in CORE as the guy arrested for killing his family and child last month in Fort Myers. CORE-DORM 06S That must be where they put the super violent offenders in the Ortiz facility. Since it says dorm, I am assuming there are more than just them two in that dorm. I bet that is a scary place
    Oh yes, I remember that, very sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuri View Post
    ....If he has any smidgeon of moral compass at all, it is my hope he will talk.....
    Have you seen evidence of 'moral compass' in him??? I'm completely stumped on that.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtate0702 View Post
    I just noticed that JR is being housed in the exact same cell/dorm in CORE as the guy arrested for killing his family and child last month in Fort Myers. CORE-DORM 06S That must be where they put the super violent offenders in the Ortiz facility. Since it says dorm, I am assuming there are more than just them two in that dorm. I bet that is a scary place
    yep...I bet they strip down to bra and panties and have a tickle-fight before bed every night.

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    In his pic', I think his ears look red, too, & his bottom of mouth area looks dang angry IMO - IMO he looks tired out but angry.

    This case really reminds me of Rabbi Neulander ---- IMO if JR knows what's good for him he'll be a tattle tale on CWW.

    For the sake of argument, pretend MS is ringleader: I can't wrap my mind around what sort of 'love' it is that CWW feels for MS such that CWW would 'take the fall' for MS !!!!

    Unrelated note: I was trying to read on WSl & 'catch up' on this case......... gave me super creepy heeby jeebies to be reminded about 'the night before the wedding', ya' know, CWW, MS & the bride.........& the 'I don't remember' part..............


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    So is Mark going to sit with Teresa's side of the family in court or Curtis side of the family in court? Will he even attend the trials of the criminals who murdered his wife? Will Curtis occasionally wink at Mark during trial? Popcorn Please. Lol
    You can fool some of the people some of the time; But guess what? The Bus Stops Here (Life No Parole/ Don't Pass Go: Don't Collect Your $200)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DexterMorgan View Post
    So is Mark going to sit with Teresa's side of the family in court or Curtis side of the family in court? Will he even attend the trials of the criminals who murdered his wife? Will Curtis occasionally wink at Mark during trial? Popcorn Please. Lol
    Dexter: What a good, good question. Maybe MS will fake-sprain an ankle so he 'needs' a wheelchair & then diplomatically scoot himself into the vortex...... Seriously, tho', doncha think MS will happen to be busy the days of the trial, ya' know....... arranging the junk in the garage .... run the Mercedes through the car wash, stuff like that? .......

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    Jail

    CWW and JR are both in downtown Lee County Jail, not Ortiz.

    'Lee County Jail has eight blocks with multiple pods in each block. These pods are lettered alphabetically. Inmates are separated into blocks via crimes committed. One block holds those serving for sex crimes, one holds murders, another holds those serving a sentence for misdemeanors, and so on. Both blocks and pods look exactly the same no matter the inmates held inside. '

    http://inmateguide.com/Lee-County-Jail-Inmates.php

    Former INMATES unrelated to case:

    Did they have names? If so, what were they?

    Jared: a-pod b-pod and so on
    Bree: i no they had dorms 1,2,3,4 and pods e-h not sure about the rest
    George: They were labeled as north or south as in 4 south and 3 north.
    Sherry: yes dorm 1 dorm 2 ect. Medical, and the hole.
    Timothy: They used the letter a, so a-1, a-2, a-3, ect.

    http://countyjail.net/Florida/Lee-Co...ail-layout.php


    Did you have regular access to telephones?

    Jared: yes in a way. the problem is that the tougher guys would try and control the phones
    Bree: when i wasnt working or on lockdown yes
    George: yes but i never used them
    Sherry: When we were off lockdown yes unless privileges were taken away.
    Timothy: Yes, in the tents we had times we could make calls.

    http://countyjail.net/Florida/Lee-Co...telephones.php

    What types of facilities were available to help pass the time?

    Did you have regular access to the entertainment or was competition fierce? Give details.

    http://countyjail.net/Florida/Lee-Co...isure-time.php
    How often could you receive visitors?

    http://countyjail.net/Florida/Lee-Co...tor-policy.php
    How many meals did you get per day?

    http://countyjail.net/Florida/Lee-County-Jail/meals.php
    If the key does not fit, it's the wrong key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fldigger View Post
    yep...I bet they strip down to bra and panties and have a tickle-fight before bed every night.
    Bwahahaha! Ewww that was a visual I never needed in my head. No, not them. I wasn't talking about those two women/child killers making the place scary. I was talking about the other prisoners they must have in that dorm. In Fort myers, I can only imagine the type that are considered the MOST violent. Shudder

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    Seeing his booking photo, I could easily believe he is the son of one of the "other brother from another mother" losers.
    He has the same looking face and eyes to me.

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