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    FL - Carl Brandt, linked to 26 murders?

    A man who killed himself, his wife and niece in central Florida is being investigated as a serial killer.
    www.local6.com/news/5046291/detail.html
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    Whoa! I wonder what the link is? DNA?
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


    "Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight


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    Details of killer emerge

    They've detailed his life in a 35-page timeline to understand the man who came to Central Florida last September seeking refuge from Hurricane Ivan, but then killed his wife and her niece before hanging himself.

    He didn't just murder Michelle Jones, who had opened her south Seminole County home to her aunt and uncle. He systematically dismembered Jones' body, even removing her head and then using kitchen knives to cut on her body with the skill of a surgeon.

    What they saw in that bedroom convinced investigators that Brandt had killed before.
    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...a-news-florida

    He later hung himself at the crime scene.

    Also, Local 6 News has learned that investigators in South Florida are now comparing his whereabouts with hundreds of unsolved murder cases.
    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...o_wkmg/2972034
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


    "Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight


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    Is Carl Brandt this guys real name?

    Weird, since it was also the name of Hitler's personal physician
    http://www.shoah.dk/doctors/brandt.htm


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    Note: This article is very detailed and Graphic.

    He didn't only kill Michelle Jones -- who had opened her south Seminole County home to her aunt and uncle. He systematically dismembered Jones' body, removing her head and then using kitchen knives to cut on her body with the skill of a surgeon.

    After remaining tight-lipped about their investigation for a year, the investigators recently revealed additional details of the slayings to the Orlando Sentinel. They are certain Brandt killed at least two other times, in South Florida, and they hope their investigation will ultimately resolve other murder cases.

    The focus is on Florida, but investigators discovered that Brandt made trips across the country as well as abroad.

    An FBI computer program selected the 26 slayings that are the focus of the investigation, some simply because the victims were young women, but many because there were unusual aspects to the slaying, such as mutilation.

    Not a typical case

    Murder-suicides are typically open-and-shut cases, and, technically, the murder case of Michelle Jones and Teri Brandt is closed. But from the minute the two veteran investigators walked into Jones' house just south of Altamonte Springs the night of Sept. 15, 2004, they knew there was nothing typical about the case.

    Neither had ever seen anything like the gruesome scene.

    "We had deputies getting sick," Jaynes said.

    Brandt, 47, walked into the garage and climbed a stepladder. He tied a bedsheet around his neck and hanged himself.

    13-year-old killed mother

    News of the crime shocked Brandt's friends, neighbors and family. Everyone told of a compassionate, friendly man nicknamed Charlie who would do anything for anyone.

    The first bombshell came when investigators learned Brandt, when he was 13, fatally shot his mother and tried to kill his father. It was a secret kept even from Brandt's two younger sisters, who thought their mother died in a car crash.

    Brandt spent a year in an Indiana mental institution and was taken back by his father when he was released.

    "I think that's when Charlie was born," Jaynes said.

    Carl Brandt visited his father, Herbert, in Ormond Beach two days before the bodies of the Brandts and Jones were found. Brandt's father told investigators that, as his son was leaving, " 'Charlie hugged me like he's never hugged me before,' " Hemmert said.
    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-b...home-headlines

    Caution: This article is very detailed and Graphic
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


    "Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight


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    WOW, this is going to prove to be a very interesting case. It is one that I will follow. Please post any updates that you come across. I wonder how much of the country he might have visited? I have also been particulary interested in serial killers. I posted some info on another Florida serial killer on here a long time ago. His name was Gerard Schaefer. He was a Deputy Sheriff in Martin County in Florida. Here is a link to a book that was written about him. http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_k...chaefer/1.htmlI have been to most of the locations where his crimes were commited and bodies were found.(I was there many years later). I had the pleasure of knowing one of the crime scene officer's who worked many of his cases. George was killed in prison a few years ago.
    Retired 08/03/03


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    I too think that it is going to be interesting. I almost couldn't believe it when I found that last post. Man did they give detail.
    But if LE will only be as forthcoming in the future and if only media will continue to follow it- it is going to be real interesting. I have already been trying to figure out who the 26 they have identified are. And there could be more.
    Well, maybe LE will start letting it out soon.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


    "Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight


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    Good grief! It is so scary that these guys get away with this year after year. We'll probably never know just how many he killed.

    This is one time, you wish the guy hadn't killed himself. At least then you'd have a chance to find out when, where, how many?

    Horrible, horrible case.


    JMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by fran
    Good grief! It is so scary that these guys get away with this year after year. We'll probably never know just how many he killed.

    This is one time, you wish the guy hadn't killed himself. At least then you'd have a chance to find out when, where, how many?

    Horrible, horrible case.


    JMHO
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    Unfortunately, the majority of serials don't talk, and the ones that do will often add victims they had no possibiility of killing. So you can't trust the ones they admit to either. Because they objectify their victims to them it is not real important who they were or what their families are suffering.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


    "Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight


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    Possible Serial Killer May Be Linked To Unsolved Deaths

    Florida investigators are looking into whether a man who killed himself after murdering two people in Central Florida last year was a serial killer, responsible for dozens of murders, Local 6 News has learned.

    Seminole County deputies said Carl Brandt may be connected to more than 26 murders since 1973.

    Brandt was in Altamonte Springs, Fla., last September taking refuge from Hurricane Ivan when he killed his wife and niece, police said.

    He later hung himself at the crime scene.
    http://www.local6.com/news/5046291/detail.html

    Note: The article doesn't contain any new info, but does have a drawing of Brandt- looks an artists drawing of a suspect.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


    "Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight


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    I wish we knew what town this guy originally came from in Indiana, or if it was Indiana because it just says he was institutionalized there and does anyone know what key in Florida his father lived on?


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    Quote Originally Posted by upallnite
    I wish we knew what town this guy originally came from in Indiana, or if it was Indiana because it just says he was institutionalized there and does anyone know what key in Florida his father lived on?
    He would have been a minor at that time so info about him would have been limited. Might be able to find something under the mothers name though- at least info about her murder.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


    "Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight


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    The Monroe County Sheriff's Office showed great interest in Brandt once it learned details of the Central Florida slayings. In 1989, the body of a former beauty queen, Sherry Perisho, was found in a canal less than 1,000 feet from Brandt's home. Her throat had been slashed and her heart removed.

    There also was a similar slaying of a prostitute in 1995 in Miami. Darlene Toler's head and heart were never found.

    Hemmert and Jaynes are convinced that both of those women were slain by Brandt.
    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-b...home-headlines
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


    "Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight


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    Wonder if this one"s a possibility
    http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/osi/unso.../ccJaneDoe.htm


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