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    Bosma Murder Trial 02.25.16 - Day 15

    This is the Bosma murder trial discussion thread.

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    **If you would like to post tweets while court is in session, please read this thread first:
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    The daily trial threads are for discussion of trial evidence/testimony only. The thread is not for general discussion, posts about past threads, other members, etc.

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    Tim Bosma trial: Dellen Millard's bookkeeper returns to witness box
    CBC News Posted: Feb 25, 2016



    Jurors at the trial of the two men accused of murder in the death of Hamilton's Tim Bosma will hear more testimony Thursday from Dellen Millard's bookkeeper, Lisa Williams.

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    On Wednesday, the jury heard, for the first time, the details of the Smich's arrest. Sgt. Stuart Oxley from Hamilton police testified "I grabbed Mr. Smich, placed him on the ground, put him under arrest for first-degree murder.

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    Legal arguments will happen this morning from 10-11. Open court starts at 11 a.m.

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    While we wait, I'll share that I dreamed of DM last night. Toured his childhood home. Roped off with tour guides. Family photos everywhere. I need to get out more!

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    Feb 25 2016 11:00 AM The jury is now back in. Lisa Williams' testimony is continuing.

    Feb 25 2016 11:01 AM Williams says she "still does a little bit of work" for MillardAir and Millard properties, gathering paperwork for a chartered accountant. She's being paid hourly, doing about 10 hours a month.

    Feb 25 2016 11:01 AM She says there "is no company there to make an income right now." The hangar has been sold, she says.

    Feb 25 2016 11:03 AM Madeline Burns (Millard's mother) is still on the payroll. "I doesn't know personally what she does for the company other than I know she has control of the company," Williams says. Millard's mother is paid $5,000 a month, she says.

    Feb 25 2016 11:04 AM Shane Schlatman stopped being paid by MillardAir in April 2015, she says.

    Feb 25 2016 11:05 AM Williams says she still sees Madeleine Burns sometimes to talk business. The last time she saw Millard, she says, was Sept. 2014. He was arrested in 2013.

    Feb 25 2016 11:05 AM "I think I visited him maybe six times," Williams says.

    Feb 25 2016 11:09 AM Court now seeing text messages between Millard and Williams about payroll on screens.

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    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 5m5 minutes ago
    Lisa Williams is returning to the stand and the jury is being brought in at the Tim #Bosma murder trial.

    Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 5m5 minutes ago
    The jury is now back in. Lisa Williams' testimony is continuing. #HamOnt #TimBosma #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 5m5 minutes ago
    Jury is here and #Millard bookkeeper Lisa Williams back on the stand. Still does work for Millard Air. #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 4m4 minutes ago
    Williams says she still does some work for Millardair. Gathers paperwork for the chartered accountant. Paid hourly, works 10 hours/month.

    Nicole Martin ‏@nmartinCHCH 4m4 minutes ago
    Jury is in the courtroom. Lisa Williams is on the stand. She was the hired bookkeeper for MillardAir @CHCHNews

    Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 4m4 minutes ago
    Williams says she "still does a little bit of work" for MillardAir and Millard properties. #HamOnt #TimBosma #Bosma

    Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 4m4 minutes ago
    She's being paid hourly, doing about 10 hours a month. #HamOnt #TimBosma #Bosma

    Nicole Martin ‏@nmartinCHCH 3m3 minutes ago
    Williams says that she is one of two workers who are still paid by the MillardAir company @CHCHNews

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
    Hangar has sold, there is no income. She has done contract work for the company continuously. Only other person on payroll Madeleine Burns.

    Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 3m3 minutes ago
    She says there "is no company there to make an income right now." The hangar has been sold, she says. #HamOnt #TimBosma #Bosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
    Jury's back, Williams back on the stand. #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
    Williams says the #Millard hangar sold, Millard Air has no physical structure. Dellen's mother Madeleine Burns still gets $5,000/mo. #Bosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
    Crown asks if she's still working for company. She wouldn't use word 'employed' but says still doing work/billing them yes. #Bosma

    Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 3m3 minutes ago
    Lisa wiliams still works for millardair doing books. Prepares taxes. Says Co. Makes no $ @AM900CHML #TimBosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
    Crown asks if she's still working for Millardair. She wouldn't use word 'employed' but says still doing work/billing them yes. #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
    Madeleine is Millard's mother. Paid $5,000/month. She doesn't know what she does for the business...Schlatman was paid until a year ago.

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
    Business is in Madeleine's name. Williams last saw Millard in September 2014. She visited him 6 times after his arrest. #Bosma

    Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
    The last time she saw Millard, Williams says, was Sept. 2014. He was arrested in 2013. #HamOnt #TimBosma #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
    Last #Millard Air employee, Shane Schlatman, lost job in Apr 2015 when hangar sold

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
    Madeleine Burns, Millard's mom, is only one left on payroll. She has control of company. She gets $5k gross a month. #Bosma

    Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 57s58 seconds ago
    Williams tells jury she still works for MillardAir doing paperwork whenever Dellen Millard requests it and is paid by the hour

    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 54s54 seconds ago
    Williams last saw Dellen #Millard in Sept 2014. Saw him half dozen times in jail. Still sees his mom. #TimBosma

    Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 53s54 seconds ago
    April 2015. Hangar is sold. Lisa Williams has visited him Dellen Millard 6 times in custody. @AM900CHML #TimBosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 49s50 seconds ago
    Schlatman stopped being paid in April 2015, she says, when the hangar was sold. #Bosma


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    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 9m9 minutes ago
    Jury is here and #Millard bookkeeper Lisa Williams back on the stand. Still does work for Millard Air. #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 6m6 minutes ago
    Williams says the #Millard hangar sold, Millard Air has no physical structure. Dellen's mother Madeleine Burns still gets $5,000/mo. #Bosma

    molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 6m6 minutes ago
    Crown asks if she's still working for Millardair. She wouldn't use word 'employed' but says still doing work/billing them yes. #Bosma

    Adam CarterVerified account ‏@AdamCarterCBC 6m6 minutes ago
    Millard's mother is still on the MillardAir payroll to the tune of $5K a month, Williams says. #HamOnt #TimBosma #Bosma

    molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 5m5 minutes ago
    The hangar has been sold, she says. No physical place for company to make money from. #Bosma

    Susan ClairmontVerified account ‏@susanclairmont 5m5 minutes ago
    Business is in Madeleine's name. Williams last saw Millard in September 2014. She visited him 6 times after his arrest. #Bosma

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    Would it be considered normal for someone in Williams' position to be visiting DM in jail 6 different times? And to still see his mom?

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    Nice pay check for doing nothing! And SS was paid up till April 2015?? Wonder what he was up to?!

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    Feb 25 2016 11:03 AM

    Madeline Burns (Millard's mother) is still on the payroll. "I doesn't know personally what she does for the company other than I know she has control of the company," Williams says. Millard's mother is paid $5,000 a month, she says.

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    Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 38s38 seconds ago
    She also told the crown she visited Dellen Millard 6 times in jail between his May 10 2013 arrest and the last time she saw him in sept 2014

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 28s28 seconds ago
    Text messages between Millard and Williams about WSIB.

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 21s22 seconds ago
    Court seeing text messages btwn Millard and Williams, but the TV screen by media section I'm in is not working. #Bosma

    Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 17s17 seconds ago
    Williams also still has a relationship with Madeline Burns, Millard's mother, who is still being paid $5000 per month by the company

    Nicole Martin ‏@nmartinCHCH 16s16 seconds ago
    Williams has gone to seen #Millard 6 times since his arrest. The court is about to see their text messages @CHCHNews

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes now
    Jury being asked to step out again. #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 36s37 seconds ago
    There was a problem with the media's screen in courtroom, so we weren't able to see those texts. Fixed now, but jury now asked to step out.

    Nicole Martin ‏@nmartinCHCH 14s15 seconds ago
    The last time Williams saw Millard was Sept 2014. Williams and #Millard smile at each other while she's on the stand. @CHCHNews

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    Feb 25 2016 11:10 AM
    These texts are from Feb 28, 2013. I'd like to tell you more about them, but the screen in front of reporters in the courtroom isn't working now for some reason.

    Feb 25 2016 11:12 AM
    Pillay says he "needs a moment" about the next message the court will be shown. The jury is being sent out.

    Feb 25 2016 11:13 AM
    Court now on a 15 minute recess.

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