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    NY - 3 Univ. of Albany students charged with assault and falsely reporting a crime

    http://news10.com/2016/02/25/all-thr...-with-assault/

    ALBANY, N.Y. (NEWS10) – The University Police Department at UAlbany says they will be arresting the three people in connection with a reported assault that took place on a CDTA bus on the University at Albany campus just after 1 a.m. on Saturday, Jan. 30.


    after the "attack" took place 2 of the girls posted on twitter about it claiming they were held down and beaten, kicked in the head etc by 10+ people

    one of the girls has a brother that is an NFL player and he sent a threatening tweet to a student that was on the bus but completely uninvolved (he posted online that he was on the bus and somehow that turned into people saying he was one of the "attackers") reportedly that student dropped out of school shortly after that

    there was a rally on campus to support the girls and it was gaining quite a bit of steam until the police reviewed the security video from the bus and apparently it turns out that the 3 girls that made the accusations actually were the ones that threw the first punches, no evidence was found on video of any group attacking them, or anyone calling them any names

    i wonder if the media will give this news as much attention as the original story received?
    Last edited by drjones; 02-25-2016 at 04:40 PM.

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    Snipped from article; quote by UPD Chief J. Frank Riley: “I especially want to point out that what happened on the bus was not a ‘hate crime.’ We spent a great deal of time carefully reviewing the audio recordings to determine whether any racial slurs were used. The only person we heard uttering racial epithets was one of the defendants. And it is important to note that no witness reported hearing any racial slurs directed at the defendants. And those witnesses were people from a variety of racial and ethnic backgrounds.”
    http://news10.com/2016/02/25/all-thr...-with-assault/

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    When Ariel Agudio called 911 in January, she told a dispatcher that she had been the victim of a racially charged crime.

    “They were calling us [N-word] and all this stuff,” Agudio told a dispatcher, the Albany Times Union reported. “And if someone doesn’t come and take this down or something, I’m going to call the news.”

    Agudio, Alexis Briggs and Asha Burwell, all three 20-year-old black students at the State University of New York at Albany, claimed they had been targeted by a group of white men and women on a bus at about 1 a.m. on Jan. 30.

    The story made national headlines. There was a rally in the wake of the news, which reportedly drew hundreds. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton even tweeted about it.

    • Agudio has been charged with assault, falsely reporting an incident, attempted assault, and attempted criminal mischief

    • Burwell has been charged with assault and falsely reporting an incident

    • Briggs has been charged with assault

    All three are expected to appear for arraignment Monday.

    Authorities said the actual victim of the incident was a 19-year-old woman from Congers, N.Y., who also was a bus passenger.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...say-otherwise/

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...adW?li=BBnb7Kz

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/25/us/new...bany-assaults/

    The evidence gathered against them included interviews with 35 bus passengers, video from a dozen security cameras on the bus and mobile videos taken by passengers.

    "No male struck the three women," the police statement said. "The evidence indicates they were actually the aggressors ... and that they continued to assault the victim despite the efforts of several passengers to stop them."

    The 19-year-old woman the students allegedly assaulted was not identified.

    "What happened on the bus was not a 'hate crime,'" Wiley said. "The only person we heard uttering racial epithets was one of the defendants."
    Since the University Police investigated this, I'm assuming the incident occurred on campus, and possibly on a campus bus.

    The young women who faked this should be suspended, IMO, pending expulsion. I wonder if the admin at the university will be "brave" enough to do that, in light of their former support for what they claimed happened.

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    Another source link for the surveillance video:


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    It's really disturbing how often these hoax "racial hate crimes" reports are occurring, especially the ones on university campuses.

    Here are just a few:

    http://www.delawareonline.com/story/...hall/72662954/

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ty-racism.html

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/20/gu...mpus-is-black/

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ases.html?_r=0 (**this includes a report about Rachel Dolezal's son making a false claim about a racial crime, when he was horsing around in a grocery store with a basketball and broke a bunch of wine bottles, and blamed it on white people yelling racial epithets at him)

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/02/bl...dents-faculty/

    And then there was the racial hoax fiasco at Mizzou, and the Duke Lacross racist rape hoax fiasco....etc. It's a really disturbing, and infuriating trend, these "race crime hoaxes", IMO. Diminishes real instances.

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    This is what to expect imo...

    Alice Green, a well-known Albany social activist and director of the Center for Law and Justice, was one of the few people who was invited by the Albany County District Attorney to watch the bus video.

    “I would not lock them up, but if it comes to be that they made false claims, there needs to be an apology perhaps,” she said of the young accusers.

    http://news10.com/2016/02/24/ualbany...-face-charges/


    On the other hand, you have this senior student ...
    His interview and the personal letter he sent to President Jones, asking him to publicly apologize for his rash decision in indicting these 10-12 students.

    http://news10.com/2016/02/25/student...cly-apologize/


    Also, a website for fake hate crimes http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/fakes?page=1
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    I really believe that the punishment for making false accusations, and orchestrating "hate" hoaxes, needs to be much more severe. Especially when the hoax scheme has been carefully orchestrated to create social or administrative chaos, or requires a large amount of time and expensive resources to investigate. Slaps on the wrist and apologies aren't enough for the damage these manipulative criminals cause, IMO.

    I think at a minimum there should be a separate set of felony charges for false reports and orchestrating hoaxes, with mandatory jail/ prison sentences. A lot of people are grievously damaged by this behavior, and usually the perpetrators have no money, so it isn't worth the victims time to sue for civil damages.

    I would also be fine with charging these kind of race hoaxers with federal civil rights hate crimes. Racist hate is racist hate-- the color of the victim shouldn't matter. Black perpetrators do carry out racial based hoax crimes against white people and other ethnicities. And sadly, I think this behavior is only increasing.

    Every race can be the perpetrator, or victim, of another's racism. It's not just a "white on black" phenomenon. It's high time we recognize that legally, charge them appropriately and severely, and prosecute the offenders, IMO.

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    If you are gonna falsely claim somebody beat you up, at least pick a place with no cameras. Did these women think nobody is going to investigate their claims?
    Just my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjenny View Post
    If you are gonna falsely claim somebody beat you up, at least pick a place with no cameras. Did these women think nobody is going to investigate their claims?
    They know that the story runs on the front page and the retraction on page 23. JMO
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    Kari Beal@CBS6KariBeal 11m11 minutes agoNew York, USA
    Asha Burwell pleads not guilty to both charges. Released with supervision. Attorney, said not attending @ualbany now


    Kari Beal@CBS6KariBeal 9m9 minutes agoNew York, USA
    Alexis Briggs also pleads not guilty. Released with curfew.


    Kari Beal@CBS6KariBeal 6m6 minutes agoNew York, USA
    All three @ualbany students, Ariel Agudio here, plead not guilty to assault charges after bus incident.


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    Kari Beal@CBS6KariBeal 59s60 seconds ago
    Pre-trial conferences set for March 29th
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    Quote Originally Posted by MHOrgel View Post
    They know that the story runs on the front page and the retraction on page 23. JMO
    But this retraction is getting some coverage.
    Just my opinion

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    Dan Levy@dlevywnyt 48m48 minutes ago
    Judge Rachel Kretser: if charges are proven they are shameful & would have a profound impact on community.


    Dan Levy@dlevywnyt 41m41 minutes ago
    Judge Kretser: even though charges are not felonies, this court considers them serious criminal charges


    Dan Levy@dlevywnyt 38m38 minutes ago
    Kretser: this case is like an open wound, I want it resolved quickly so that the community can heal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by popsicle View Post
    This is what to expect imo...

    Alice Green, a well-known Albany social activist and director of the Center for Law and Justice, was one of the few people who was invited by the Albany County District Attorney to watch the bus video.

    “I would not lock them up, but if it comes to be that they made false claims, there needs to be an apology perhaps,” she said of the young accusers.

    http://news10.com/2016/02/24/ualbany...-face-charges/


    On the other hand, you have this senior student ...
    His interview and the personal letter he sent to President Jones, asking him to publicly apologize for his rash decision in indicting these 10-12 students.

    http://news10.com/2016/02/25/student...cly-apologize/


    Also, a website for fake hate crimes http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/fakes?page=1
    Until there is a penalty that really cost the person falsely accusing, this will continue. This was a 'hate crime'
    If it was a false claim against a minority, or a gay or lesbian, it would get unending coverage. It is the same crime, no matter who does what to who.
    It's time to stop this, for good.

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