Bosma Murder Trial 03.21.16 - Day 24

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This is the Bosma murder trial daily discussion thread. The trial daily discussion thread is for discussion of trial evidence/testimony only, not for general discussion, posts about past threads, other members, etc. Off-topic posts will be removed.

Note: Only testimony that is published through MSM reporting (articles and tweets) is allowed. Keep discussion focused on testimony as it becomes public knowledge and remember to link up to MSM reporting of same.

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**If you would like to post tweets while court is in session, please read this thread first:
[h=1]Bosma Murder Trial Twitter Roll Call[/h]
Reporters to follow on Twitter:

Jacques Gallant, Toronto Star
Adam Carter, CBC Hamilton - ArianeEmory
Mark Carcasole, Global Toronto - Matou
Molly Hayes, The Hamilton Spectator
Peter Ackman, CTV National News
Nicole Martin, CHCH TV
Susan Clairmont, The Hamilton Spectator
Shannon Martin, CBC Toronto News

Also, check this site for real time updates.

http://www.cbc.ca/hamilton/news/
 
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Tim Bosma trial restarts Monday after week off
CBC News Posted: Mar 21, 2016

Crown will continue with its case against two men accused of first degree murder

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Dellen Millard, 30, of Toronto and Mark Smich, 28, of Oakville, Ont., are accused of killing Bosma, 32, who lived in the suburban Ancaster area of Hamilton. Both have pleaded not guilty to first-degree murder.

The trial last sat on Thursday, March 10 when it heard from an uncle of Millard, Robert Burns. Burns, a veterinarian who has a practice in Vaughan, Ont., denied any intention of getting into the pet cremation business with his nephew when asked by the Crown prosecutor in a Hamilton court

You can read his live blog below starting at 10 a.m. ET

CBC Live Blog

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Justice Goodman is now in the courtroom. We'll be underway once the jury is back in.
by Adam Carter 10:01 AM
 
Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 4m4 minutes ago Vaughan, Ontario
After more than a week off, #Bosma trail resumes today in #HamOnt

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 3m3 minutes ago Vaughan, Ontario
RECAP: Here's where things stand now at #Bosma trial http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/tim-bosma-trial-restarts-monday-after-week-off-1.3500355 … @CBCHamilton @AdamCarterCBC

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 20s21 seconds ago
Jury is absent from the courtroom right now at the Tim #Bosma murder trial while legal issues are dealt with.
 
Some housekeeping issues happening before the jury is brought in.
by Adam Carter 10:06 AM
 
Adrian Humphreys ‏@AD_Humphreys 37s38 seconds ago
#TimBosma murder trial resumes after week's break. Catch up. Video evidence: http://natpo.st/21GEoLs Stories: http://news.nationalpost.com/tag/tim-bosma #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Vaughan, Ontario
Standing by for jury - some legal discussion about future possible evidence underway between lawyers and judge #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Vaughan, Ontario
#Bosma trial: My colleague @AdamCarterCBC answers YOUR frequently asked questions here http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/bosma-faq-1.3497820 … @CBCHamilton
 
And now we're into some legal arguments. Still no jury yet. I can't report on what's going on until the jury is in the room.
by Adam Carter 10:14 AM
 
Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 7s7 seconds ago
No, demeanour hasn't changed. Smich never reacts, Millard more animated and always looking over at Smich. #bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 50s51 seconds ago
Beginning the morning with some legal arguments. Stay tuned... #Bosma
 
Jury now being recalled. Underway in moments.
by Adam Carter 10:31 AM
 
Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Jury on hold until lawyers finished their arguments. #Bosma #HamOnt

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Jury is coming in and first witness today will be Shane Schlatman. #bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Jury is being recalled #TimBosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Vaughan, Ontario
Jury is here, we're getting underway shortly #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
The jury is back. #Bosma
 
Jury is now in the room. Goodman instructing them about "out of court statements" made by the two accused. "When witnesses report what an accused says, you have to decide for yourself whether you believe the witness," Goodman says.
by Adam Carter 10:34 AM
 
Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 20s20 seconds ago
#TimBosma judge tells jury they look refreshed after a week off. Now he's explaining how they should decide on witness believability

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 47s48 seconds ago
Justice Goodman advising jurors to use common sense when deciding if witness is telling truth about things the accused said. #bosma
 
Okay...we've got SS on deck. This should be interesting.

MOO
 
Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Jury on hold until lawyers finished their arguments. #Bosma #HamOnt

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Jury is coming in and first witness today will be Shane Schlatman. #bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Jury is being recalled #TimBosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Vaughan, Ontario
Jury is here, we're getting underway shortly #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
The jury is back. #Bosma

I thought CB was the next witness?
 
molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 17s17 seconds ago
Judge instructing jury about statements they've been told were made by the accused. Instructing them to use common sense to assess #Bosma

Ann Brocklehurst ‏@AnnB03 30s30 seconds ago
judge instructing jury on how to determine reliability of witness testimony re statements purportedly made by the accused out of court

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 25s25 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Judge welcomes jury back, says they appear 'refreshed' after their break #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 29s30 seconds ago
Next witness is being called: Shane Schlatman--Millard's second-in-command at the Millardair hangar. #Bosma
 
The next witness is Shane Schlatman, who worked for Millard. His father in law, Arthur Jennings, already testified to seeing Bosma's truck inside the MillardAir hangar.
by Adam Carter 10:37 AM

Crown attorney Craig Fraser is questioning Schlatman.
by Adam Carter 10:38 AM

Schlatman first spoke with police on May 11, 2013.
by Adam Carter 10:39 AM

In May 2013, Schlatman says he had known Millard for seven years.
by Adam Carter 10:39 AM



 
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