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  1. #16
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    Since the mother was stabbed to death, according to the links on this thread, either the father or son had a knife at some point. I personally don't think an outsider came in and killed her. When LE says,"There was no knife found," I find it hard to believe they lived in a home with no kitchen knives. Also, several of the links refer to the mother having been deceased for "some time." That could be anywhere from 6 hours earlier to a few days. A kitchen knife could have easily been washed and returned to its normal place or thrown out in that amount of time. Very disturbed family dynamics here. RIP son and mother.
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    Case of father accused of killing gay son filled with complexity and questions


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    Wow. I read the headlines when they first appeared and thought it was a strange....I had no idea how strange it actually was. That video on FB is a huge clue of the complications that family lived with. That environment looks like a boiling pot of seething hatred toward each other, ready to explode.

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    Oh my gosh. I have no words after reading and watching some of the video on the FB page of the victim. Very sad. That is all I can say.
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    Now the LAPD is saying that Emir's sexual orientation wasn't a key factor:
    “His sexual orientation was not the key factor,” said LAPD Operations-Valley Bureau Homicide Detective Steve Castro. “There were other issues upsetting to the father.”
    http://www.dailynewsx.com/news/polit...son-77650.html
    It wouldn't surprise me if before too long the case is dropped and the father is considered a victim whose wife was murdered and who acted in self defense rather than a perp. The neighbors say he complained about various things about his son, but not about his son's sexual orientation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpanishInquisition View Post
    Now the LAPD is saying that Emir's sexual orientation wasn't a key factor:
    “His sexual orientation was not the key factor,” said LAPD Operations-Valley Bureau Homicide Detective Steve Castro. “There were other issues upsetting to the father.”
    http://www.dailynewsx.com/news/polit...son-77650.html
    It wouldn't surprise me if before too long the case is dropped and the father is considered a victim whose wife was murdered and who acted in self defense rather than a perp. The neighbors say he complained about various things about his son, but not about his son's sexual orientation.
    After seeing that video, I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpanishInquisition View Post
    Now the LAPD is saying that Emir's sexual orientation wasn't a key factor:
    “His sexual orientation was not the key factor,” said LAPD Operations-Valley Bureau Homicide Detective Steve Castro. “There were other issues upsetting to the father.”
    http://www.dailynewsx.com/news/polit...son-77650.html
    It wouldn't surprise me if before too long the case is dropped and the father is considered a victim whose wife was murdered and who acted in self defense rather than a perp. The neighbors say he complained about various things about his son, but not about his son's sexual orientation.
    I would like to know what the basis was for the initial announcement that the son was killed because he was gay.

    Just because a gay person is killed, it doesn't mean that he was killed because he was gay. Same as, just because a Muslim woman is killed, it doesn't mean she was killed because she was Muslim.
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    CA - Father allegedly murdered son because he was gay (wife found slain, as well)

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    I would like to know what the basis was for the initial announcement that the son was killed because he was gay.

    Sadly, because it makes for a more salacious headline. And of course it went viral because of the LGBT outrage thinking it was a hate crime.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Inthedetails View Post
    After seeing that video, I agree.

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    Me too. This was literally down the street from my office and about 5 miles from my house. I have thought since the beginning that the son killed the mother and the father killed the son out of grief/self defense. CRAZY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpanishInquisition View Post
    Now the LAPD is saying that Emir's sexual orientation wasn't a key factor:
    “His sexual orientation was not the key factor,” said LAPD Operations-Valley Bureau Homicide Detective Steve Castro. “There were other issues upsetting to the father.”
    http://www.dailynewsx.com/news/polit...son-77650.html
    It wouldn't surprise me if before too long the case is dropped and the father is considered a victim whose wife was murdered and who acted in self defense rather than a perp. The neighbors say he complained about various things about his son, but not about his son's sexual orientation.
    Bingo. I totally agree.
    I've been afraid to say what I think because it is such a sensitive subject and I didn't want to offend. However, with the son's violent history and all that I have read...I believe this was the case. Amier killed his mother and the father just lost it.

    So very sad. The entire situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Momoffourboys View Post
    Bingo. I totally agree.
    I've been afraid to say what I think because it is such a sensitive subject and I didn't want to offend. However, with the son's violent history and all that I have read...I believe this was the case. Amier killed his mother and the father just lost it.

    So very sad. The entire situation.
    That's what I think happened too. I think the father killed perhaps out of self-defense, but probably also out of rage. There was a lot of anger in that family, based on that video that was posted on Facebook. And, perhaps that rage is where the false headline happened - maybe the father in the horrible aftermath of everything spewed off about his son, and people made the assumption that the murder was because the son was gay, when that really was not the cause at all.

    Really complicated case...cannot be explained in a headline.

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    I don't know if this is an attempt at face-saving by the LAPD/DA or what as this is just getting weirder:
    Police believe the primary reason a Los Angeles man killed his adult son was to cover up for the stabbing death of his wife the previous day, and not chiefly because the son was gay, as prosecutors have alleged.http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/l...lling-38178279
    This seems particularly weird since if this was part of a highly premeditated plan to commit multiple murders over a period of days and have a cover story, that Shehada would have planted the murder weapon on the Amir (or had it in his possession if he was unable to plant it) as Amir wasn't found with the murder weapon on him.
    It would seem an easier explanation would be that he thought his son was armed with a knife at the time and he was probably quite emotional both during the event as well as afterwards being interviewed by police plus there may be some cultural misunderstanding in how Shehada answered questions. I'd think if they're going to float this as some uber-premeditation they're going to have to give some reason why the father's primary target was his wife with the father basically planning on framing and killing his son.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpanishInquisition View Post
    I don't know if this is an attempt at face-saving by the LAPD/DA or what as this is just getting weirder:
    Police believe the primary reason a Los Angeles man killed his adult son was to cover up for the stabbing death of his wife the previous day, and not chiefly because the son was gay, as prosecutors have alleged.http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/l...lling-38178279
    This seems particularly weird since if this was part of a highly premeditated plan to commit multiple murders over a period of days and have a cover story, that Shehada would have planted the murder weapon on the Amir (or had it in his possession if he was unable to plant it) as Amir wasn't found with the murder weapon on him.
    It would seem an easier explanation would be that he thought his son was armed with a knife at the time and he was probably quite emotional both during the event as well as afterwards being interviewed by police plus there may be some cultural misunderstanding in how Shehada answered questions. I'd think if they're going to float this as some uber-premeditation they're going to have to give some reason why the father's primary target was his wife with the father basically planning on framing and killing his son.
    So I guess we've entered the "just when you think it can't get any weirder" phase of this case.
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