Bosma Murder Trial 04.07.16 - Day 32

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**If you would like to post tweets while court is in session, please read this thread first:
[h=1]Bosma Murder Trial Twitter Roll Call[/h]
Reporters to follow on Twitter:

Jacques Gallant, Toronto Star
Adam Carter, CBC Hamilton - ArianeEmory
Mark Carcasole, Global Toronto - Matou
Molly Hayes, The Hamilton Spectator
Peter Ackman, CTV National News
Nicole Martin, CHCH TV
Susan Clairmont, The Hamilton Spectator
Shannon Martin, CBC Toronto News
Colin Butler CBC Toronto News
Lisa Hepfner CHCH News Reporter

Also, check this site for real time updates.

http://www.cbc.ca/hamilton/news/
 
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Tim Bosma trial: Dellen Millard's lifelong friend returns to testify
CBC News Posted: Apr 07, 2016

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Thursday in a Hamilton courtroom jurors will hear more testimony from Matt Hagerman, a lifelong friend of Dellen Millard, one of two men accused of murder in the death of Hamilton's Tim Bosma.

Hagerman testified Wednesday about how Millard enlisted several friends to act as lookouts and help him steal a Bobcat tractor in the fall of 2012. The jury heard earlier this week that police were investigating the tractor found in the hangar as stolen.

Follow our live coverage of the trial starting at 10 a.m.

CBC Live Blog

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Justice Goodman is now in the courtroom. We're now just waiting on the jury.
by Adam Carter 10:00 AM
 
Jury being recalled, as is the witness, Matt Hagerman. He again darted into the courthouse with his face covered today.
by Adam Carter 10:05 AM
 
Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 8s9 seconds ago
Jury back. Mathew Hagerman back on stand. He looks as shaky as he did yesterday. @AM900CHML #timbosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8s8 seconds ago
Jury's back. Matt Hagerman (Millard's friend) is back on the stand. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 6s7 seconds ago
Matt Hagerman is back on the stand and the jury is in. #Bosma

Ann Brocklehurst ‏@AnnB03 47s48 seconds ago
Dellen Millard childhood friend Matt Hagerman back on stand at Tim Bosma murder trial

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 47s48 seconds ago Toronto, Ontario
Back in the courtroom this morning in a rainy Hamilton, Ontario as #Bosmatrial continues

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 29s30 seconds ago
#Bosma jury coming in for the day. #Millard childhood friend Matt Hagerman back on the stand.
 
Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 26s27 seconds ago
Jury is back, Matt Hagerman in the witness box being questioned by crown lawyer Craig Fraser. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Toronto, Ontario
Matt Hagerman is back on the stand, the Crown continues questioning.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 54s55 seconds ago
Crown Craig Fraser continuing examination-in-chief of Hagerman. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 39s40 seconds ago Toronto, Ontario
Crown asking Hagerman about a toolbox Millard brought him, in the middle of the night at Hagerman's parents' home. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 59s60 seconds ago
Crown Craig Fraser continuing examination in chief. Asking about Millard giving him toolbox. Millard told him to hold it for a couple days.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 58s59 seconds ago
They left off at Millard handing Hagerman a toolbox and asking him to hang onto it for a couple days. #Bosma
 
Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 58s59 seconds ago
They left off at Millard handing Hagerman a toolbox and asking him to hang onto it for a couple days. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 52s52 seconds ago
However Hagerman says he doesn't recall how long exactly Millard wanted him to keep the toolbox. #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 44s44 seconds ago
Hagerman can't recall how long he was to hold onto the toolbox. Crown is giving him copy of one of his police statements to refresh memory.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 32s32 seconds ago
He's now looking at a police statement. #TimBosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 40s40 seconds ago Toronto, Ontario
Crown is showing Hagerman a statement he gave to police #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 18s18 seconds ago
Crown Craig Fraser is asking Hagerman about how long he was supposed to hold on to the yellow toolbox, after #Millard dropped it off. #Bosma
 
Assistant Crown Craig Fraser going back to where we left off, where Millard asked him to hang onto the toolbox in his driveway.
by Adam Carter 10:08 AM

Hagerman is looking over his statement to police from May 30.
by Adam Carter 10:08 AM

Hagerman now saying that Millard asked him to hold onto the toolbox for "a couple of weeks, tops."
by Adam Carter 10:10 AM
 
Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 15s15 seconds ago
How long was Hagerman asked to hold the tool box? "I had no idea of duration. I only had his word" now reading police statement. @AM900CHML

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 6s7 seconds ago
Hagerman is reading his statement (this one from May 30, 2013). He gave four in total. He lied to police at first, he has testified. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 13s13 seconds ago
Millard told him to hold it for "a couple of weeks, tops."

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 19s20 seconds ago
Hagerman looks as if he had a rough night. His hair greasy-looking and out of place. #TimBosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 17s17 seconds ago
Hagerman police statement says he was asked to hold on to it "couple of weeks tops"@AM900CHML #timbosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 14s14 seconds ago
He now recalls he was supposed to hold onto it for "a couple weeks tops." #Bosma
 
Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 19s20 seconds ago
Hagerman says Millard asked him to keep it for a couple weeks, not a couple days. #TimBosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 12s13 seconds ago Toronto, Ontario
Hagerman: I asked him if anything was wrong. He seemed disheveled. He said it was better if he didn't tell me. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 18s19 seconds ago
Hagerman asked DM in the driveway if anything was wrong. DM appeared "disheveled." DM told him it was better if he didn't tell him anything.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 22s23 seconds ago
Asked Millard if anything was wrong. "He seemed dishevelled." He said it was better if he didn't tell me. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7s8 seconds ago
Hagerman asked DM in the driveway if anything was wrong. DM appeared "disheveled." DM told him it was better if he didn't know. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 15s16 seconds ago Toronto, Ontario
Hagerman: It was a quick exchange, I went back to my house. Put it in the basement, and went back to bed. #Bosma
 
Thanks to everyone posting this morning! :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat: I'm having computer issues but will lurk from my phone :)
 
"He seemed dishevelled," Hagerman said about Millard. "He said it would be better if he didn't tell me [what was in the toolbox]."
by Adam Carter 10:12 AM

"I went back to my house, put it in my basement, and went to bed." Hagerman says he was confused, if anything.
by Adam Carter 10:12 AM

"I had seen that toolbox in the past between 2009 and 2010, so I had in my mind, a sure idea of what was in it," Hagerman says.
by Adam Carter 10:13 AM
 
Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 23s23 seconds ago
In the driveway Millard seemed disheveled and Hagerman asked if something was wrong, Millard said it was better if he didn't know. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 32s32 seconds ago
After the hand-off, Hagerman went back into his house, put the toolbox in the basement and went to bed. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 35s35 seconds ago Toronto, Ontario
Crown: What's your state of mind at that point? Hagerman: Confusion, if anything, but I was tired. I decided to go to bed. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 32s32 seconds ago
He thinks there was another person in Millard's car. 4 am. A quick exchange, he takes it, puts it in basement, went to bed.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 49s50 seconds ago
"Confusion" was his state of mind more than anything else, Hagerman says. Was tired so went to bed. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 47s47 seconds ago
Hagerman asked DM if something was wrong. He was disheveled. Dm told him it was better if he didn't tell me. @AM900CHML #
 
Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 40s40 seconds ago Toronto, Ontario
Hagerman: I had seen the toolbox in the past, between 2009-2010. In my mind, I had a sure idea of what was in it. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Crown asks if he was afraid. He says he'd seen the toolbox in the past so had "in my mind, a sure idea of what was in it." #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 45s46 seconds ago
After checking his statement, Hagerman recalls #Millard said he would have toolbox "a couple of weeks, tops." #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 55s56 seconds ago
Crown asks where he'd seen it before. He saw it at the Maplegate residence, around the house. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 50s51 seconds ago Toronto, Ontario
Hagerman: I had seen it at the Maplegate residence....Around the house. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
"I had seen that toolbox in the past btwn 2009 and 2010 so in my mind I was sure what was in it." Had seen it at Maplegate home.
 
Hagerman says he had seen the toolbox at Millard's Maplegate residence.
by Adam Carter 10:13 AM

Fraser asks what would have been in the toolbox previously. "Narcotics, drugs that were brought out at parties," Hagerman says.
by Adam Carter 10:14 AM

Millard didn't tell him there were drugs in it when he passed it off, Hagerman said.
by Adam Carter 10:15 AM
 
Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 1m1 minute ago
Hagerman put it in his basement and went to bed. He said he was confused and given the toolbox's history he had a sure idea what was in it

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 47s48 seconds ago Toronto, Ontario
Maplegate is Dellen Millard's house.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 39s40 seconds ago
Crown: "You're suggesting you made some connection sir? What had been in that toolbox previously?"
#Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 53s54 seconds ago
Previously had seen drugs in the toolbox "that were brought out at parties."

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 1m1 minute ago
Took tool box inside. downstairs. Goes to bed. He had seen box in past at DM home. Says in his mind he knew what was inside.@AM900CHML

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 1m1 minute ago
Hagerman had seen it at Millard's home in 2010 and it held drugs that were brought out at parties. #Bosma
 
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