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  1. #1
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    Mar 2015

    NY - Chester, BlkFem UP9786, 30-40, in woods, mugshot from NYC, Oct'70

    NamUs UP # 9786

    ME/C Case Number: FMSP 70-755
    Orange County, New York
    30 to 40 year old Black/African American Female

    Date found October 18, 1970 16:30


    Estimated age Adult - Pre 40
    Minimum age 30 years
    Maximum age 40 years
    Race Black/African American

    Sex Female
    Weight (pounds) 105, Estimated
    Height (inches) 62, Estimated

    Body conditions
    Not recognizable - Decomposing/putrefaction
    Probable year of death 1970 to 1970
    Estimated postmortem interval 4 Months

    Location Found

    Address State Route 94
    City Chester
    State New York
    Zip code 10924
    County Orange


    A decomposed body of B/F found by hunters in a wooded area off of ST-94 in Town of Chester.

    Clothing on body Black knee high socks, white sweat shirt.

    Dental Status: Dental information / charting is available and entered


  2. #2
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    from March 2, 2016

    [EXCLUSIVE] NYS police exhume remains; victim may be tied to ‘fake nun’ house

    New York State Police from the Criminal Investigation Division and Forensic Identification Unit surrounded a small grave in Orange County
    this week, performing a rare exhumation of a female homicide victim from 1970.

    there could be a connection between this unidentified victim—a black female of about 30--and 20-plus women who went missing from
    a house at 222 Brooklyn Avenue in the 1960’s and 1970’s.

    They were seduced into the household of a phony bishop, Devernon Legrand, who fathered up to 50 children with them and forced
    the women to dress up as fake nuns and beg in the subways and at popular tourist spots.

    Those that didn’t make at least $100 a day were beaten. When they tried to run away, they were often kidnapped and
    brought back. Witnesses said a number of women ended up being stomped to death.

    Legrand was raking in $250,000 a year in the mid-70’s, when he was convicted of rape and murder.

    The victim’s decomposing remains were found in the woods off Route 94 North in Chester, a road that leads into
    Sullivan County, New York, where Devernon Legrand owned a farm.

    In the 1970’s, witnesses testified a number of female homicide victims were brought to the farm, after they’d been dismembered, and paint thinner
    was used to burn the remains in a tub. The bones were then scattered in Lake Briscoe.

    The unknown homicide victim died from a gunshot wound
    It’s remarkable that police on October 19, 1970, were able to retrieve fingerprints, to begin with. Hunters who were in the woods of Chester found the victim.
    “She had actually been laying on her hands,” Investigator Salomon said, “and parts of her hands still had skin left on them.

    The prints were put into a state database in 1970, but it wasn’t until a new database was installed decades later that police got a break.

    “Christmas Eve 2015, we got a hit. “We found a criminal record, a criminal history in New York City…..and Atlantic City.”
    One 1960 arrest in New Jersey
    was for “contributing to the delinquency of a minor.” There was a 1967 drug arrest in Atlantic City.

    “She used many aliases,” Investigator Salomon told us. “She used the name ‘Fanny Hill’…..the last name, Dixon, in one of her cases. A.C. Moore and Evelyn Moore.”

    At some point, after DNA is retrieved from the bone fragments of the victim, police may ask now-adult children of women who vanished from 222 Brooklyn Avenue to provide DNA samples.

    New York State Police have asked anyone who has information that could help the investigation to contact them at (845) 782-8311.


  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    I never saw any rule outs, but I honestly thought that was a male.
    Unless I provide a link, every one of my posts are to be considered rumor, Speculation, or simply MY OWN OPINION.

    “It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it.”

    The missing and murdered cannot cry out for Justice. It is the duty for the living to do so for them.

  4. #4
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    Jul 2011
    Fairfield, Nelson Co, Ky USA
    I don't want to sound stupid. I may have just skimmed past it. But how do we know this is the lady in the mugshot(s)? Because of the fingerprints???

  5. #5
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    May 2013
    SE Minnesota
    Quote Originally Posted by bflocket View Post
    I don't want to sound stupid. I may have just skimmed past it. But how do we know this is the lady in the mugshot(s)? Because of the fingerprints???
    That's how I understood it.

  6. #6
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    Mar 2015
    It seems she might have sense of humour. Her alias during one of the arrests - Fanny Hill - google came up with novel by 18th century English writer John Cleland - "Fanny Hill, a Memoir of a Woman of Pleasure" - first erotic novel and one of the most prosecuted and banned books in history.

    Coincidentally, it was published once again in US in 1963 and of course was immediately banned. Publisher had guts, went to Supreme Court to challenge the ban
    and the United States Supreme Court ruled in landmark decision in 1966 Memoirs v. Massachusetts that Fanny Hill did not meet the Roth standard for obscenity.


    That had to be huge news and surely widely publicized in newspapers at the time. With Jane Doe being once again arrested in 1967, just a year after Massachusetts Court ruling, it surely was interesting choice of alias.

  7. #7
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    Sep 2014
    Did it say what she was arrested for?

  8. #8
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    Oct 2009
    New England
    Quote Originally Posted by JayFletcher6493 View Post
    Did it say what she was arrested for?
    It mentions a drug arrest and contributing to the delinquency of a minor. I'd hazard a guess that the Fanny Hill arrest was for prostitution.
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

  9. #9
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    Jul 2014
    There are only six black females missing before 10/18/70 that are entered in Namus:


    There's nothing in Doe Network that makes any sense either.
    Last edited by creepedout; 04-12-2016 at 11:52 PM.

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