FL FL - Kenneth Gautier, 20, Ruskin, 1 May 1975

Springrain · Apr 13, 2016

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/33291/7/
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4881dmfl.html
http://www.nampn.org/cases/gautier_kenneth_lee.html

Added to NamUs 4/11/16. Dentals and fingerprints not available; initial inquiry underway for DNA.

The date missing differs; Doe says May 1st, NamUs says June 1st, Nampn says May/June. I put May in the Title so as not to rule out possible matches in case they were found in May '75.

Alleykins · Apr 15, 2016

Thanks for adding this, Springrain. I wanted to when he popped into NamUs and didn't find a page for him, but didn't know how, or if I even have the ability to add people. I'm still learning the ropes.
I went looking for possible matches but nothing popped out at me. There are a lot of UIDs in Florida (all over, actually) with little to no information available, which is very sad.

Springrain · Apr 16, 2016

I'm frustrated as I haven't been able to find anything about Kenneth, apart from the links I posted above. Anyway, I found a UID I think might be a good match.

http://doenetwork.org/cases/1183umfl.html
Killed in FL in summer 1975. He had long hair like Kenneth, and I think there's a fair resemblance. Broward County is about 3 1/4 hours away from Ruskin. That isn't too bad of a distance. I wrote more about it on 1183UMFL's thread.

ETA: Side by side of Kenneth and UID.

Alleykins · Apr 16, 2016

I looked at that one in NamUs, but dismissed it because they put the probable time of death was listed from 1973-1975, but that doesn't mean much I'm finding out.
Missing two fingers and having scars on his right hand unfortunately may not help identify him if the remains are completely skeletal. They missing bones might be considered just lost and not found, as opposed to an antemortem wound, especially in the case of one of the matches I found, in which the remains were scattered.
Other possible matches
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/1330
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/1323
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/5286 (this one has absolutely no information other than demographics and a sketch)
I'm going to check other states next

MelmothTheLost · Apr 16, 2016

I wonder what state his flat was in and whether anything significant was missing when his family went round there. A degree of disarray would suggest his disappearance was probably not voluntary whereas hiking kit being missing would suggest he took some time out and something happened away from home.

Sleuthster · Apr 17, 2016

He was visiting his uncle in Ruskin namus says. There has to be more info like where the Uncle said he went or the last time he saw him.

Alleykins · Apr 21, 2016

Spring, what do you think of this one? There is no information available. It was found in AL in 1991 but doesn't state what the estimated TOD is. Same height. Right age range, depending on when the UP died. There is no dental or DNA available. No hair color. No eye color.
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/14028

Alleykins · Apr 23, 2016

Bummer, that can't be him, I just read LA Gear started in 1979 and became really popular at the end of the 80s/early 90s. That might help pinpoint a TOD for another MP closer to that time, however.

Alleykins · Apr 23, 2016

I believe his family has set up a FB page for him.

Kimbo33 · Apr 26, 2016

Hello, I am Kenneth Lee's sister. I have recently reopened this investigation. I appreciate from the bottom of my heart any and all help. Springrain - I saw the similarity in that case too. I have asked The Doe Network to look into for me. We are in the process of securing DNA - my sister already swabbed and I should be soon. What other information can I give you? I corrected the missing date on NamUs. He last spoke to my mother 6/26/75 so it was right after that.

Springrain · Apr 26, 2016

Kimbo33 said:
Hello, I am Kenneth Lee's sister. I have recently reopened this investigation. I appreciate from the bottom of my heart any and all help. Springrain - I saw the similarity in that case too. I have asked The Doe Network to look into for me. We are in the process of securing DNA - my sister already swabbed and I should be soon. What other information can I give you? I corrected the missing date on NamUs. He last spoke to my mother 6/26/75 so it was right after that.

Hello and welcome to Websleuths! Sorry it is under these circumstances.

Thank you so much for reopening the case and getting it online!

Thanks for correcting the date on NamUs--that helps to clear up confusion. (I will try to edit the thread title or get a mod to do it if I cannot) Another huge thank you for getting the DNA! That's the single most important thing to do.

Do you have any other details about his life and why he disappeared? Do you think he walked away of his own free will, or met foul play? Do you have a theory concerning his disappearance?

Springrain · Apr 26, 2016

Alleykins said:
Bummer, that can't be him, I just read LA Gear started in 1979 and became really popular at the end of the 80s/early 90s. That might help pinpoint a TOD for another MP closer to that time, however.

Dang it! I hadn't seen this until today. They looked so similar

Springrain · May 1, 2016

I noticed Kenneth doesn't have a Charley Project page. I messaged Meaghan on Facebook yesterday; hopefully there is a page made for him.

Alleykins · Jun 4, 2016

Kimbo33 said:
Hello, I am Kenneth Lee's sister. I have recently reopened this investigation. I appreciate from the bottom of my heart any and all help. Springrain - I saw the similarity in that case too. I have asked The Doe Network to look into for me. We are in the process of securing DNA - my sister already swabbed and I should be soon. What other information can I give you? I corrected the missing date on NamUs. He last spoke to my mother 6/26/75 so it was right after that.

Welcome!

Alleykins · Jun 4, 2016

Florida needs to step up their game. A lot of their older UIDs are listed as not having DNA/Dental/Fingerprints even though they were recently deceased (like traffic accidents or pedestrian/vehicle accidents). DNA I can understand, but the other two should have been obtained. Maybe they have them, it's just not listed?

Alleykins · Jun 26, 2016

Kimbo33 said:
Hello, I am Kenneth Lee's sister. I have recently reopened this investigation. I appreciate from the bottom of my heart any and all help. Springrain - I saw the similarity in that case too. I have asked The Doe Network to look into for me. We are in the process of securing DNA - my sister already swabbed and I should be soon. What other information can I give you? I corrected the missing date on NamUs. He last spoke to my mother 6/26/75 so it was right after that.

I'll hope you'll check back and update us when you can!

Alleykins · Jul 2, 2016

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/10umfl.html

Alleykins · Sep 6, 2016

Bumping for Ken.
I noticed DNA is now on file for him in NamUs.

Springrain · Apr 4, 2017

Bump :rose:

I hope a Charley page will be made for him soon.

Alleykins · Apr 21, 2017

I submitted Kenneth as a match for this set of remains, found in 1990 in FL.
Everything matches, except for mentioning his missing digits, however, there is scarring on the right hand and wondering if that detail was specifically omitted? Both have fingerprints available. It's a long shot but worth an inquiry, IMHO
https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/6168

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