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    Bosma Murder Trial 04.14.16 - Day 35

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    **If you would like to post tweets while court is in session, please read this thread first:
    Bosma Murder Trial Twitter Roll Call

    Reporters to follow on Twitter:

    Jacques Gallant, Toronto Star
    Adam Carter, CBC Hamilton - ArianeEmory
    Mark Carcasole, Global Toronto - Matou
    Molly Hayes, The Hamilton Spectator
    Peter Ackman, CTV National News
    Nicole Martin, CHCH TV
    Susan Clairmont, The Hamilton Spectator
    Shannon Martin, CBC Toronto News
    Colin Butler CBC Toronto News
    Lisa Hepfner CHCH News Reporter

    Also, check this site for real time updates.

    http://www.cbc.ca/hamilton/news/
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    Good Nite from the West Coast, and Good Morning to all you early risers

    Just a note that our thread titles have now gone one day out of synch with the Tim Bosma Trial Tweets (Clairmont, Hayes, Carter) because they have assigned April 11 (which was legal arguments only) as Day 33 while we only count trial days when the jury is sitting. I don't know why the reporters have done that now as there have been other dates with just legal arguments and they haven't assigned trial day numbers to them.

    Upshot is, you'll just have go with matching up the actual dates instead of trial day #.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...li=1&sle=true#
    Last edited by sillybilly; 04-14-2016 at 04:21 AM.

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    Tim Bosma trial: Dellen Millard's friend and roommate returns to testify
    CBC News Posted: Apr 14, 2016


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    Andrew Michalski, the roommate of Dellen Millard, one of two men accused of murder in the death of Hamilton's Tim Bosma, returns to testify Thursday.

    Jurors learned Wednesday that Michalski was also arrested in connection with Bosma's death but was questioned and released without charge.

    Follow our live coverage starting at 10 a.m.


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    Back in court for the Tim Bosma trial today. Court starts at 9:30 a.m. this morning for legal arguments, with the jury expected in at 10 a.m.
    by Adam Carter 9:12 AM

    Get caught up with my recap from yesterday:
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilt...ay-2-1.3533654
    by Adam Carter 9:25 AM

    Court is now in session for legal arguments. I'll let everyone know when we're in open court and I can start providing updates.
    by Adam Carter 9:32 AM

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    Susan ClairmontVerified account ‏@susanclairmont 4m4 minutes ago
    We are still in legal arguments here at the Tim #Bosma murder trial. Jurors waiting in the wings.

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    We're in a recess now for 20 minutes.
    by Adam Carter 10:18 AM

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    Court now resuming. No jury in yet.
    by Adam Carter 10:53 AM

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    Jury now being recalled. Smich's lawyer Thomas Dungey to continue cross-examination of Andrew Michalski.
    by Adam Carter 10:57 AM


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    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
    And we're back.
    Jury's being brought back in. So is Michalski, the witness. #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
    #Bosma jury coming in now, and Michalski is back on the stand.

    Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 3m3 minutes ago
    Jury is back- andrew michalski back on the stand to face Dungey! @AM900CHML #timbosma

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
    Witness Andrew Michalski is back on the stand and the jury is in at the Tim #Bosma murder trial.

    Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
    Jury is back. Andrew Milchalski still in the witness box. Smich lawyer Thomas Dungey is cross-examining. #TimBosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
    Dungey continuing with his cross. #Bosma

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    Dungey asking again about video games -- Halo and Halo Wars.
    by Adam Carter 11:00 AM

    Halo is a first person shooter, Halo Wars is a strategy game.
    by Adam Carter 11:00 AM

    Michalski testified previously they would play those games.
    by Adam Carter 11:00 AM

    Smich used to play the game online with Millard, Michalski and co.
    by Adam Carter 11:02 AM

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    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
    Dungey asking a couple more Qs about video games. Distinguishes between halo and halo wars. #Bosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
    Establishes halo wars is more of a strategy game (building bases etc). Michalski agrees. #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
    Dungey is continuing his cross-examination. Back to video game called Halo. And Halo Wars. Smich was seldom at the Maplegate house. #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
    #Smich lawyer Dungey asking again about the video games the #Millard friends played for hrs daily -- Halo.

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
    Dungey suggests Mark Smich was "very seldom in your presence at 5 Maplegate." Michalski agrees. #Bosma

    Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 45s45 seconds ago
    Michalski agrees with the suggestion that Mark Smich was rarely at Millard's house while he lived there. #TimBosma

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    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
    Back in May 13, 2013 police statement Michalski told cops MS had been over "a few times" while he lived there. #Bosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
    He said Smich wanted to buy a skateboard. Dungey suggests Smich never played halo with them. "He definitely did sir," Michalski says. #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
    Police statement has Michalski referring to Smich being at the house just one time and he wanted to buy a skateboard.

    Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 1m1 minute ago
    Dungey- Smich was seldom in your presence. Correct- michalski. He played on line. @AM900CHML #timbosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
    Michalski explains its an online game. Smich played remotely. Dungey says the only game he played was halo wars. Michalski disagrees. #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 56s56 seconds ago
    Halo is an on-line game, so Smich played with them, although he wasn't at Maplegate house. #Bosma

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    So far, SS and AM are the only witnesses who provided their testimony over 3 trial days.
    Bosma trial resources: Timeline | Witness list | Exhibits

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