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    FL - Troubling discovery after girls drown in pond

    Troubling discovery after girls drown in pond

    There are some serious questions about what happened in the hours before three teenagers died in a St. Petersburg pond. 10News WTSP put together a timeline to give you a better understanding of what happened from the moment investigators say they spotted the stolen car to when they drove into the pond that's located in a cemetery off I-275 and Gandy Boulevard in St. Petersburg.
    Fifteen-year-old Laniya Miller, 15-year-old Ashaunti Butler, and 16-year-old Dominique Battle were the ones who lost their lives.
    http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/pinel...pond/143264892

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    I am really confused by the article. What are the questions? What is the troubling discovery? Sounds like they were trying to get away from the police, their car went into retention pond and they drowned.
    Just my opinion

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    http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/3-tee...pond/111588699 (Mar 31, 2016) has 1 min:31 sec news vid clip.

    At :19 sec, there are pix of all 3 teens, each w criminal history listed.
    ---16 y/o Battle had 9 items listed, since Oct 2014, including burglaries of dwelling, gr theft auto, possessing marijuana, violation of probation, and had an active warrant.
    ---15 y/o Butler had 5 items since May 2015, also violation of probation, gr theft auto, retail theft, resisting officer, possessing marijuana, burglary of dwelling, & pick-up notice as runaway, active warrant.
    ---By comparison, 15 y/o Miller seems to have been a novice - gr theft auto, Mar 16, 2016.

    "....Between these three teens they were arrested seven times just for grand theft auto,” says Sheriff Gualtieri." bbm

    IIUC, the second LEO who observed them that evening called in plate & learned car was reported stolen.

    Personally, I'm giving credit to Butler's stepsister for common sense:
    "...“I was shocked when I heard it, real shocked, because I just saw her,” says Jackson. “I don't think it was a smart decision, whatever she did.bbm
    Too bad that none of these three of these teens <modsnip> used common sense.

    Sad, sad, sad. JM2cts.
    Last edited by beach; 04-21-2016 at 05:58 PM. Reason: clarify, per poster's request

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjenny View Post
    I am really confused by the article. What are the questions? What is the troubling discovery? Sounds like they were trying to get away from the police, their car went into retention pond and they drowned.
    My take is the article is questioning the time it took divers to get to the scene and into the water. Also another question is that according to police the girls' car entered the cemetery going about 35 mph but some of the police vehicles were going much faster entering the area. Since there is a quote from an attorney for one of the girls saying she's trying to get answers for her client's mother my guess is this will be less about 3 girls with criminal records who stole a car and ran from the police and more about alleged mistakes by LE. But that's just my HO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetgrits View Post
    My take is the article is questioning the time it took divers to get to the scene and into the water. Also another question is that according to police the girls' car entered the cemetery going about 35 mph but some of the police vehicles were going much faster entering the area. Since there is a quote from an attorney for one of the girls saying she's trying to get answers for her client's mother my guess is this will be less about 3 girls with criminal records who stole a car and ran from the police and more about alleged mistakes by LE. But that's just my HO
    How fast is one expected to round up divers in the middle of the night?
    Just my opinion

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    I find it troubling that 3 girls the ages of these 3 had such extensive records already, and that they were still out running around stealing cars. And that they thought it was okay to flee from the police.
    JMO. MOO.

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    The parents have retained a lawyer/s because they want facts ~ lawsuit!

    They were all good girls and the poor LE officers should have jumped into the muck, no matter what, to save them!!

    No room for personal responsibility here. Good girls. Bad LE!

    I even had someone on a local news site tell me I condone MURDER because I wasn't jumping on the bandwagon that LE should be blamed instead of these girls.

    Said it before, I'll say it again - These girls were out of control and the parents did nothing to stop them. They stole a car and when they realized they were had, they tried evading LE because they didn't want to get caught - again - and ended up drowning in that pond.

    Many cars are much safer in that neighborhood now!!

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    RIP girls. That being said, where are their parents culpability? I live 15 minutes from here and it's not the safest city to begin with. Sad story all around but I am with LE on this one.

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    I really think the "troubling discovery" about this case are the rap sheets of these very young individuals. That's plain crazy!

    And very sad indeed....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATasteOfHoney View Post
    I really think the "troubling discovery" about this case are the rap sheets of these very young individuals. That's plain crazy!

    And very sad indeed....
    Not exactly uncommon around here sadly.

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    Police aren't legally obligated to save you, even when they don't have to risk their lives to do so.
    Just my opinion

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    I see it both ways it's horrible that these 3 girls died because they were running from police, in a stolen car. However, who wouldn't try to get to them, no matter their criminal records. How do you not try your hardest when people are drowning ?

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    I'm a little outraged. I mean, untrained strangers would have tried to save them without knowing their criminal record. Idk man. Those cops are shady.


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    Yeah this is rather disturbing I agree. Like, how can the police not be obligated to... IDK, protect and serve by trying to save lives? Like someone just mentioned, most people would try to save a drowning person simply because of a natural moral instinct to value life. How many people were awful teenagers and ended up productive adults? Plenty. These girls never get the chance to outgrow their stupid choices.
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