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  1. #1
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    Search

    Hopefully they'll be able to search up there soon.
    http://www.eastidahonews.com/2016/03...orr-kunz-case/


    At the present time this case is still being investigated by this office and other agencies, also we are planning a professional search which will be conducted as soon as weather and winter conditions in the area allow. It is imperative that the area remain in a pristine condition. It is for this reason we are asking the public to avoid the area so the area will remain as undisturbed as possible as winter conditions recede.
    We know there is a tremendous amount of interest in this case; we will give further updates when it is appropriate and is compatible with the active investigation.”
    Last edited by bessie; 05-23-2016 at 12:45 AM. Reason: unrelated to thread topic

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    Has the "spring thaw" that we've been waiting for happened yet?

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    Last edited by bessie; 05-23-2016 at 12:55 AM. Reason: off topic

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    I can see that Klein can't help but comment every so often to their name in the middle of this case. Lemhi SO states they want everyone to stay away from the area so the can do a thorough search and Klein has to come back with the statement, "As we cannot prevent you from doing anything - we STRONGLY urge you to stay out of that area and the area (s) around the camp ground. There will be a professional team of search and rescue members in the next few weeks - along with dog teams - searching certain particular areas. We do not speak for Law Enforc...ement - however we are pleading to the public to please allow the professionals to do their jobs. We, along with Law Enforcement, are following strong evidence leads in certain areas. Again we ask you to stay out of the area. This search, we understand, will not be announced to the public, and will not include the general public as specialized equipment and dogs will be used."

    I wish Klein would just stay out of this and leave it to the LE professionals.

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    Current weather conditions in Lemhi County.
    https://www.wunderground.com/weather.../ID/Lemhi.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butler View Post
    Current weather conditions in Lemhi County.
    https://www.wunderground.com/weather.../ID/Lemhi.html
    Hovering around 20 degrees (Celsius, not sure what that is in F) which is plenty warm enough for there to be no snow. Let's hope they're up there soon with whatever equipment and manpower they need. Got a bad feeling he won't be found, though.

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    I checked the local news sources and didn't find anything. So either they haven't searched yet or they did and found nothing. I'm going with the former as this is still has a great deal of public interest in Eastern Idaho. There may still be enough snow at the campsite and surrounding area to make searching difficult. We still have quite a bit of snow at higher elevations.

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    Lemhi County Sheriff: Campground closed off to search for DeOrr Kunz Jr.

    The sheriff's office tells Local News 8 that the U.S. Forest Service is in charge of enforcing the shut down.

    The family's former private investigator, Philip Klein, released a statement on the Klein Investigations and Consulting Facebook page Saturday asking the public to stay away from Timber Creek Campground.
    http://www.ktvb.com/news/lemhi-count.../179513881?c=n

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    Same info from Chelsea Brentzel
    http://m.localnews8.com/news/pi-work...round/39434784

    I'm finally starting to feel optimistic again.

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    http://www.khq.com/story/31919621/le...ch-for-toddler

    Campground closed during search for toddler.

    Statement from Klein Investigation included on this link:


    http://www.ktvb.com/news/lemhi-count...z-jr/179513881
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    Interesting. I hadn't seen this, or maybe I missed it in a link. The order to close the campground was signed 4-12-16. Notice in the map the outlined area of closure. Lots of trails in the area, as many of us have noted. Great map.

    http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_...eprd500311.pdf


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    Sheriff Bowerman on creek search. Sure sounds to me like they did a through job. JMO

    TRANSCRIPT

    True Crime Radio
    Tricia Griffith

    Guest: Sheriff Lynn D. Bowerman to discuss missing toddler, Deorr Kunz Jr., missing from Leadore Idaho, July 10, 2015

    Thursday, October 15, 2015
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...O-DISCUSSION**

    TG: Okay, and you have…you have searched at great lengths and great depths the reservoir and the stream…uh creek.

    11:17
    SB: Yes! We dove the reservoir at least four days. We put a side-scan sonar in on one day. We also uh flew a helicopter both in daylight and at night with the FLIR to illuminate for body heat, and we found absolutely nothing other than our canines alerted on it but we found that someone had come in behind us and had uh put some human cremains in of a loved one and that kind of threw our dogs off.

    11:51
    TG: Oh! So like spreading the ashes of their loved one and then the dog goes there and is like, hey, there’s human remains. Oh, boy! That must be frustrating!

    11:59
    SB: Right. And in the creek, from the…from the campground down approximately two miles, we literally walked that, waded it in hip boots and 20-30 people were removing every uh tree, limb, every branch. We had a device, a tubular device with plexiglass on it, that we could actually look down into the water and they reached under every embankment and literally uh tore that creek apart looking for uh Deorr.

    12:31
    TG: So obviously I think the first place everybody thinks is Oh my gosh, the poor kid fell in the water, was taken down, maybe stuck under a rock or something, but you feel confident that you have searched the creek and the reservoir enough that you feel confident that you need to start looking else… or continue to look elsewhere, right?

    12:50
    SB: Exactly! We had…we’ve had a total of uh I believe 18 dogs in there and those dogs should have alerted, you know even after the fact, after the length of time that we’d been looking should alert should that child be in there, but my two scent dogs that were in there initially, they should have found that child. They really should have.

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    Do you guys think Chelsea Brentzel will have anything tomorrow? She posted on her FB to check tomorrow.

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    Do you know if she is doing another story today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onebest View Post
    Sheriff Bowerman on creek search. Sure sounds to me like they did a through job. JMO

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    I have no doubt Sheriff Bowerman and his folks did a thorough job searching. My point is even with thorough searches there are time bodies don't surface for some time if ever. Several years ago in down town Idaho Falls a child was thrown in the river from a main street bridge which was seen by several people. The child's grandmother (she was the one who threw the child in) jumped in right after. People saw this happen and jumped in to try to save them. The grandmother was pulled out, the child was never found. Law enforcement did a very thorough search for a very long time.

    As far Chelsea doing another story, I don't know if she will. I'm sure when the Sheriff has something to tell the public we'll hear it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idahogirl View Post
    Do you know if she is doing another story today?
    Chelsea Brentzel KIFI KIDK has a story on her facebook page

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