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  1. #376
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    Quote Originally Posted by fraudqueen View Post
    Have a million for 200 plants, I think not...lol
    They never said it was ONLY 200 plants. 200 plants were found at one indoor location. There were more found at two other crime scene locations and for all we know it could have been multiple sites at those two locations. It could be 1000 plants for all we know. No source ever said it was a total of 200. That number was just for the amount found at one indoor site at one crime scene location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaytay View Post
    How long would it have taken to reload to let off 30 something shots?
    Depends on the gun and some wouldn't require reloading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MamaMoonshine View Post
    Depending on the caliber and gun type.. A shot to the extremities could take a limb off.
    A thigh had a large femoral artery as well and bleeding out would be fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighairdontcare View Post
    I missed alot last night...
    trying to catch up on previous thread- Okay, so dogs are missing? That was confirmed that they were possibly shot?
    Quote Originally Posted by Adt1984 View Post
    I know it's been confirmed they are missing but I didn't read anything that said they were shot/dead.
    I saw this posted earlier, but I don't know whether to believe it or not. It's from the DM, so take it with a grain of salt.

    It was confirmed that there were two pit bulls in one of the houses and that in another chickens were being bred for illicit cock fighting and gambling operations.

    Confirmed by WHO?? We still don't know if the dogs are alive.
    Somebody needs to ask Leonard about the dogs, because HE would absolutely tell you Bless his heart, he seems to think he has to let anybody interview him that's asks. Right about now though, he has to be one of LE's worst nightmares. I honestly think he is completely in denial, or better yet...completely in the dark about all of this. I think a lot gets past him. Maybe talking about his losses is a coping mechanism for him.
    He's had a lot of losses, almost his entire family was wiped out in one single day. He just wants people to remember they were victims of a horrible massacre, and they were loved.

    I'm thinking he must have gotten his son's truck back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pheasant View Post
    Without knowing the type of gun who knows. I have a 9mm with a 30 round magazine, so zero seconds. It takes less than a second for a good shooter to drop a magazine and reload. A revolver would take about 2 seconds to reload.
    We are talking 4 locations, and an unknown number of shooters, and an unknown number of weapons. It's possible that no reloading was required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KKearns View Post
    This is what is bugging me.

    They keep making very direct specific statements and then something comes out that contradicts them. This is happening with almost every statement they have made.

    They have been CLEAR.. People shot in the head execution style, most sleeping in bed.
    This is what is really bugging me. Why would they say execution style at the first press conference?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Toralei View Post
    How is a shot to the extreme ties fatal? I thought that meant hands, feet

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    Arms and legs are also considered extremities. A bullet severing a major artery could be fatal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mommasouth View Post
    I am just now learning more about it by Google of course .. I did run across how a tv show had used the Dixie mafia as the storyline for the show it was all taking place supposed to be in Kentucky. I know that is a fictional story justified is but wow the similarities are real I can say that .. it maybe loosely based off of dixie mafia but no doubt something like that group exists in real life and pike county looks like the ideal homestead for this type..
    I live in Alabama, the Dixie Mafia is very real. Many end up being very respected, upstanding citizens that you would never guess. There are even some police departments that have been infiltrated with some. It consists of ****s, lawyers, real estate developers, doctors, church goers, etc. Many small towns have LE that makes money from turning their back to activities.

    ETA: Weird that word was censored.. Ok, some are your typical criminal type people for the censored T word.
    Last edited by KKearns; 04-26-2016 at 04:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmacky View Post
    I saw this posted earlier, but I don't know whether to believe it or not. It's from the DM, so take it with a grain of salt.

    It was confirmed that there were two pit bulls in one of the houses and that in another chickens were being bred for illicit cock fighting and gambling operations.

    Confirmed by WHO?? We still don't know if the dogs are alive.
    Somebody needs to ask Leonard about the dogs, because HE would absolutely tell you Bless his heart, he seems to think he has to let anybody interview him that's asks. Right about now though, he has to be one of LE's worst nightmares. I honestly think he is completely in denial, or better yet...completely in the dark about all of this. I think a lot gets past him. Maybe talking about his losses is a coping mechanism for him.
    He's had a lot of losses, almost his entire family was wiped out in one single day. He just wants people to remember they were victims of a horrible massacre, and they were loved.

    I'm thinking he must have gotten his son's truck back.

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    I haven't seen anything authoritative about the dogs, but it was AG Mike Dewine who said that the roosters were caged consistently with cock-fighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmacky View Post
    I saw this posted earlier, but I don't know whether to believe it or not. It's from the DM, so take it with a grain of salt.

    It was confirmed that there were two pit bulls in one of the houses and that in another chickens were being bred for illicit cock fighting and gambling operations.

    Confirmed by WHO?? We still don't know if the dogs are alive.
    Somebody needs to ask Leonard about the dogs, because HE would absolutely tell you Bless his heart, he seems to think he has to let anybody interview him that's asks. Right about now though, he has to be one of LE's worst nightmares. I honestly think he is completely in denial, or better yet...completely in the dark about all of this. I think a lot gets past him. Maybe talking about his losses is a coping mechanism for him.
    He's had a lot of losses, almost his entire family was wiped out in one single day. He just wants people to remember they were victims of a horrible massacre, and they were loved.

    I'm thinking he must have gotten his son's truck back.

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    According to Leonard Manley, when Bobby Jo showed up last Friday morning, the front door was locked and the dogs were nowhere to be found. There were at least two pit bulls, a "wolf-dog" and "coon dogs" that lived with his family members.

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    I thought I'd share my comprehensive notes with y'all... hoping maybe they'll be helpful to some of you.

    4 Properties:
    4077 Union Hill Road
    4199 Union Hill Road
    3122 Union Hill Road
    Left Fork Road

    4077 Union Hill Road is within walking distance of 4199.
    3122 Union Hill Road is 1970 feet away from 4077.
    Left Fork Road is approximately 8.2 miles from 4077 Union Hill Road (a 17 min drive without traffic).

    Distance TO/FROM nearby cities from 4199 Union Hill Road:
    Piketon = 17.5 miles (20 minutes)
    Peebles = 9.7 miles (13 minutes)
    Lucasville = 27.8 miles (29 minutes)
    Chillicothe = 38.5 miles (46 minutes)
    McDermott = 32.1 miles (37 minutes)

    Piketon, OH – population estimated at 2,000; located 90 miles east of Cincinnati
    Pike County, OH – roughly 30,000 residents

    VICTIMS

    Hanna Rhoden (19) – daughter to Chris Sr. & Dana Rhoden; found in Dana’s house with Dana and Chris Jr.; worked as a nurse assistant at a Skilled Nursing Facility in Lucasville since January but recently took maternity leave; has a 2 year old daughter who was with another family member at the time of her murder; shot in bed next to her 4-day-old daughter

    Hannah Gilley (20) – engaged to Frankie Rhoden; found at home with Frankie, their surviving 6-month-old child, and Frankie’s surviving 3-year-old son from a previous relationship; lists herself as self-employed on Facebook; attended Northwest High School in McDermott, OH

    Clarence “Frankie” Rhoden (20) – son to Chris Sr. & Dana Rhoden; found at home with fiancé Hannah Gilley, their surviving 6-month-old child, and his 3-year-old son from a previous relationship; competed in both in-state and out-of-state demolition derby competitions; worked at a sawmill and attended Piketon High School

    Dana Manley Rhoden (37) – married Chris Sr. on October 27, 1994 in Adams County and divorced in 2007 citing irreconcilable differences; shared custody of their three children (Frankie, Hanna, & Chris Jr.); court records indicate Hanna and Chris Jr. lived at Dana’s residence; worked at a nursing home in Peebles, OH since October of last year

    Gary Rhoden (38) – cousin of Chris Sr.

    Chris Rhoden Sr. (40) – ex-husband to Dana; per court records, Frankie lived at his residence after the divorce; worked at Big Bear Resort in Lucasville, OH

    Kenneth Rhoden (44) – brother to Chris Rhoden Sr.; has two children with an ex-wife who he married in Waverly, OH on May 17, 1991 and divorced in 2006, citing incompatibility; his two children are now 19 & 23 years of age; previously employed at Crownover Lumber Company in Peebles, OH

    Chris Rhoden Jr. (16) – son to Chris Sr. & Dana Rhoden

    First 911 Call
    Caller: Bobbi Jo Manley @ 7:49 am on Friday, April 22, 2016
    Reported finding Chris and Gary Rhoden deceased at 4077 Union Hill Road
    Key statements:
    “There’s blood all over the house”
    “my brother-in-law is in the bedroom…”
    “There’s blood all over the front room”
    “Both of them in there look like they’re dead”
    “I think they’re both dead, looks like someone’s beat the [expletive] out of ‘em”
    “The door was locked when we got here but I know where the key was at”
    “I went in and they were laying on the floor”

    BOBBI JO’S DAD, LEONARD MANLEY, TOLD REPORTERS:
    “Well, my daughter feeds them animals out there every morning, Bobbi Jo the one that made the 911 call. She got the key to the place. She went in found my grandson and his girlfriend dead. Went down found my son in law and his cousin dead. Then she come out and got me and I went out there and my boy went to my daughter’s house and they found them. My daughter, her daughter, and her son.”


    CRIME SCENE INFO
    One incident report regarding one of the killings said the crime scene showed no signs of forced entry.

    Roosters - Ohio AG Mike DeWine confirmed roosters were found in separate cages at one of the homes and suggested someone in the family may have been running a cockfighting enterprise

    Marijuana - Grow operations have been found at three separate residences; LE estimate street value of plants to be $500,000; during an interview with Cincinnati radio station 700WL, DeWine described the grow sites as some of the biggest operations he’s seen in the state; Pike County Prosecutor Rob Junk told The Columbus Dispatch that operations included an indoor grow-house that sheltered hundreds of plants

    (Per the Humane Society of the United States, cockfighting and associated gambling is frequently connected to illegal drug activity.)

    HISTORY OF NEARBY DRUG ACTIVITY

    February 2016 - A 37 lb. box of marijuana was discovered by postal worker at the Piketon Post Office. The discovery led to an investigation that unearthed a “scatter” lab that was being used to produce large quantities of hash oil at an unknown property located on Beaver Run Road.

    2012 – AG DeWine issued press release announcing LE had discovered “a major marijuana grow site” in Pike County with suspected ties to a Mexican drug cartel. During the discovery, 1200 plants were destroyed by investigators and two abandoned campsites were located, which they believe had belonged to Mexican nationals.

    CURRENT KNOWN THEORIES BEING INVESTIGATED BY LE
    Include: Mexican cartel, gang activity, family disputes, revenge killing
    They believe they are looking for multiple shooters due to the number of crime scenes

    CONFIRMED INTERVIEWS CONDUCTED BY LE

    Isaiah Jones - detained at gunpoint during a traffic stop and questioned for six hours
    Rusty Mongold - detained and questioned about a threat he posted on Facebook prior to the murders


    OTHER STUFF

    Per Leonard Manley (Dana’s father), the family had 2 fierce pit bull dogs, what he referred to as a “wolf dog,” and multiple hound dogs. He said the dogs were “nowhere to be found” when Bobbi Jo arrived at a residence and discovered the bodies.

    Dana Rhoden was one hour late for work on Thursday, April 21; she also worked a double-shift to help out due to a co-worker being unable to work; she worked from 8 am to 11 pm.

    NEW INFO

    *61 additional pieces of evidence sent to BCI crime lab for DNA, ballistics, latent print, and trace analysis; this brings the total evidence to 79 (the 18 previously reported pieces are considered “high-priority”)

    *Additional search warrants were issued on 4/25/16

    *LE has received 300+ tips

    *215 different LEO have contributed to the investigation

    PRELIM AUTOPSY REPORTS

    confirmed cause of death for all 8 victims is homicide via gunshot wound

    all shots were fatal with wounds to the body including the head, torso, and extremities

    some victims also suffered soft tissue bruising (per hopkinsmedicine.org, soft tissue bruising is: “A contusion (bruise) is an injury to the soft tissue often produced by a blunt force, such as a kick, fall, or blow. The result will be pain, swelling, and discoloration because of bleeding into the tissue.)”

    Victim #1 – Single Gunshot Wound
    Victim #2 – 2 Gunshot Wounds
    Victim #3 – 3 Gunshot Wounds
    Victim #4 – 3 Gunshot Wounds
    Victim #5 – 4 Gunshot Wounds
    Victim #6 – 5 Gunshot Wounds
    Victim #7 – 5 Gunshot Wounds
    Victim #8 – 9 Gunshot Wounds
    *Total of 32 gunshot wounds between the 8 victims.

    (The relationship between the # of gunshot wounds/victim has not been released and this list is in no particular order.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by KKearns View Post
    I'm still trying to find info on the other murder that has been mentioned that is similar but two young kids left alive and a husband and wife.
    Was it this case?: http://woub.org/2012/12/04/ohio-ag-s...double-murder/

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    <modsnip>I'm curious of the family relationships and dynamics between certain families/members. I can't shake the idea that one of the perps was a woman and maybe even the planner. JMO and thoughts.
    Last edited by tlcya; 04-26-2016 at 09:16 PM. Reason: remove quoted post and reference to same

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyPond View Post
    This is what is really bugging me. Why would they say execution style at the first press conference?!



    Arms and legs are also considered extremities. A bullet severing a major artery could be fatal.
    I know, it bugged me and even the sheriff spinning the legal contact with some of the victims. It is more like a press secretary speaking than a DA and Sheriff. They are giving out incorrect info that they know will be exposed, not something that they may can control.

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    Good job putting all that info together. I have to keep going back on these 3 Threads of info. By the time I get back I have to read another 3 pages that I've missed. Thank you
    Last edited by winterrose; 04-26-2016 at 04:22 PM.

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    For all we know, the perp may be among the dead. Forensics will tell the story.

    Though that doesn't account for the gun being missing. sigh...

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