Bosma Murder Trial 05.16.16 - Day 49

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**If you would like to post tweets while court is in session, please read this thread first:
[h=1]Bosma Murder Trial Twitter Roll Call[/h]
Reporters to follow on Twitter:

Jacques Gallant, Toronto Star
Adam Carter, CBC Hamilton
Mark Carcasole, Global Toronto
Molly Hayes, The Hamilton Spectator
Peter Ackman, CTV National News
Nicole Martin, CHCH TV
Susan Clairmont, The Hamilton Spectator
Shannon Martin, CBC Toronto News
Colin Butler CBC Toronto News
Lisa Hepfner CHCH News Reporter

General MSM Tweets

Also, check here for real time updates.

http://www.cbc.ca/hamilton/news/
 
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Tim Bosma trial: The cross-examination of Mark Smich
CBC News Posted: May 16, 2016

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We'll find out starting today how well accused murderer Mark Smich's version of events in the 2013 killing of Hamilton resident Tim Bosma holds up to cross-examination.

Last week, Smich told the Ontario Superior Court jury his version of Bosma's last few hours, saying Millard pulled the trigger and killed Bosma.

Last week, jurors heard Smich say, "He [MIllard] just said, 'I'm taking the truck,' and goes and grabs some stuff from the back. When I got out, I walked around, and I seen a bullet hole in the window and Mr. Bosma laying with his head against the dashboard."

Live coverage of the trial starts at 10 a.m.

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Back at the courthouse today. Court starts at 9:30 this morning, with open court due to start at ten.
by Adam Carter 9:10 AM

We're still in legal arguments this morning. The jury is expected to be called in at 10 a.m.
by Adam Carter 9:48 AM

Still in legal arguments right now. No sign of the jury just yet.
by Adam Carter 10:02 AM
 
We're now taking a 20 minute recess, back at 10:30 a.m.
by Adam Carter 10:10 AM
 
Court is now back in session. No jury yet.
by Adam Carter 10:32 AM

The jury is now being recalled.
by Adam Carter 10:33 AM
 
molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 46s47 seconds ago
The jury is being brought back in. #Bosma
 
Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 39s40 seconds ago
#Bosma jury coming in now.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 44s45 seconds ago
Jury is back at the Tim #Bosma murder trial.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 36s37 seconds ago Toronto, Ontario
Jury now entering the courtroom at #Bosma murder trial #HamOnt

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 29s30 seconds ago
Jury is in. #Bosma trial. Smich is heading up to witness box in a minute.
@CTVNews

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 28s29 seconds ago
Jury now coming in. One juror is being discharged due to death in family. We now have 13. @AM900CHML

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 35s35 seconds ago
Judge reads letter from juror. Brother died on Saturday in Sudbury, and service is being planned
 
Goodman says he has gotten a letter from a juror saying that their brother has passed away.
by Adam Carter 10:35 AM

Justice Goodman says he has gotten a letter from a juror saying that their brother has passed away.
by Adam Carter 10:35 AM

Goodman says that at a time like this, "family is the most important thing in one's mind."
by Adam Carter 10:36 AM
 
Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 29s29 seconds ago
Justice Goodman has received letter from juror. Her brother died Saturday morning in Sudbury. His body being brought to #hamont today.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 36s36 seconds ago
Justice Goodman reads a letter he received from one of the jurors whose brother died in Sudbury over the weekend. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 43s44 seconds ago
Jury back. Judge Goodman is reading a letter from one of the jurors that their brother died and they need time for a funeral. #TimBosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 27s28 seconds ago
Judge says he and counsel are "saddened by the loss of your brother." Judge says at time like this "family is the most important thing."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 36s36 seconds ago
Justice Goodman says it's his view that "at a time like this, family is the most important thing." #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 30s30 seconds ago
Judge says court is saddened & appreciative. Says family is most important at times like this. Attention and energy must be directed there
 
Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 43s43 seconds ago
Goodman says "we are saddened by this" and "family is the most important thing." #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 37s37 seconds ago
He says one's energy must be directed toward family in a time of sorrow. Says he is sad for her loss. #Bosma

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 46s46 seconds ago
Losing a juror in #Bosma trial. One juror's brother has died and will be released by Judge. Trial will move on with 13 jurors. @CTVNews

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 45s45 seconds ago
One of the 14 jurors is being discharged by the judge. The #TimBosma murder trial will continue with 13.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
Therefore juror #13 is discharged. She is nodding. She will be escorted out. Has to turn over all her notes.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 52s53 seconds ago
Judge says Juror 13 is discharged from responsibilities in this case. "I'm sad for your loss." Will be escorted out.
 
Goodman says juror #13 is being discharged of her responsibilities.
by Adam Carter 10:37 AM

The juror is crying in court right now. Goodman thanks her for her service.
by Adam Carter 10:37 AM

We'll move forward with 13 jurors. In the end, only 12 will deliberate on a verdict.
by Adam Carter 10:38 AM
 
molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 47s48 seconds ago
Juror 13 is discharged for the remainder of the trial. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 30s31 seconds ago
Justice Goodman says at times of sorrow family is most imp. Juror 13. Visibly upset. Judge noting how close the jury has become. @AM900CHML

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Goodman says he recognizes she has likely formed a bond with her fellow jurors, and that is not lost on anyone. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
Judge talking about the bond she's established with other jurors. Juror #14 hands her kleenex. Emotional for the jury.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
He tells her he is grateful for her service on this jury. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
"Have established a bond with your fellow jurors. It's almost like a family," says judge. Juror is crying and wiping tears. "Condolensces."
 
Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 1m1 minute ago
Juror 13 is dabbing her eyes with a tissue as Justice Goodman thanks for for her service and gives his condolences. #TimBosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
Others are wiping tears too. She gets up to leave, as others touch her arm. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Juror 13 has left the room. The trial will now continue with 13 jurors. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 56s56 seconds ago
Juror 14 moves over. #Bosma court moves on.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 53s53 seconds ago Toronto, Ontario
A letter from a juror read out loud in court. Her brother passed away. She wipes away tears. She's discharged from trial. #Bosma #HamOnt

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 1m1 minute ago
Justice Goodman thx the juror. Talks about close bond. Lawyers all stand. She is escorted out. @AM900CHML
 
Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Other jurors are crying as she leaves. A very poignant moment here. We started with 14 jurors. Now 13. Only 12 will deliberate on verdict.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 56s57 seconds ago
Now each remaining juror is standing as their number is called to be accounted for. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 48s49 seconds ago
The registrar is now taking attendance to ensure there are 13 jurors present. (There are) #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
Registrar takes jury attendance. They stand up at their numbers and say "present." They are now 13. Smich takes stand

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 46s46 seconds ago
Mark Smich is escorted back to the witness stand. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 37s37 seconds ago
There were 2 extra jurors selected for this trial. One more will be discharged before deliberations. @AM900CHML
 
Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 50s51 seconds ago Toronto, Ontario
Mark Smich, dressed in a white dress shirt and black pants, now in the witness box. #Bosma #HamOnt

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 57s57 seconds ago
Now accused killer Mark Smich being escorted by security to the witness box. #Bosma Cross exam to start by Nadir Sachak.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 56s56 seconds ago
Smich wearing white button down and black pants. Sachak gets up to cross examine on behalf of Millard

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 50s50 seconds ago
Smich today is wearing black pants and a white dress shirt. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 36s36 seconds ago
Cross exam now under way. Nadir Sacha leads. @AM900CHML

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 30s30 seconds ago Toronto, Ontario
Smich faces cross examination first from his former friend's lawyer, Dellen Millard. #Bosma #HamOnt
 
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