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    Interview: Trina Bates Clegg, 11 May 2016

    Interview with Trina Bates Clegg, Jessica's Mom:

    http://m.localnews8.com/news/extende...nz-jr/39482978

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mickshawn View Post
    Interview with Trina Bates Clegg, Jessica's Mom:

    http://m.localnews8.com/news/extende...nz-jr/39482978
    Thanks, Mickshawn. Watched it and made a few notes. Big/new info (IMO) is bolded:


    • Jessica's mom (Trina) was at work with phone on silent that Friday. At break time she realised she had several missed called from Jessica. She tried and tried to call her back, fearing that it was bad news about Grandpa and when she finally got through Jessica was incoherent and she had to tell her to calm down before realising what had happened. She went home, grabbed some clothes and set off to Leadore thinking DeOrr would be found by the time she got there.
    • She explains that she asked Jessica to go up to Leadore with Grandpa to keep an eye on him, she was worried it could be his last camping trip because of health problems. She had an engagement on Saturday and planned to join them Sat night or Sunday. Trina spent a lot of time at the campgound as a kid but had not been there for years. Jessica had never been there before.
    • On the drive up from Idaho Falls she was in contact with LE and knew on arrival from Jessica's eyes that DeOrr was still missing. Jessica collapsed and trembling.
    • Confirms true that Jessica called her mom before she called LE. She thinks Jessica just "needed her mom" to tell her it would be ok.
    • Sat night helicopters out, huge spotlight brought in, searching all night with flashlights calling DeOrr's name.
    • Confirms Grandpa has COPD and prostate cancer - no mental issues whatsoever, she says rumours about that are "very incorrect", he just needed oxygen.
    • Isaac lives in same neighborhood as Grandpa, kind of a handyman, does gardening, takes him fishing, is a companion and is appreciated by the family for being with Grandpa.
    • Trina confirms she took a polygraph which was inconclusive as she was so tired, it was after the fundraiser event. She has volunteered to do another at any time and is not worried at all about cooperating with LE.
    • No reason to believe Jessica lying, says she and Deorr was close and adored each other. Will not point the finger at any one else. Confirms only 4 adults on the trip, mentions other campers and locals in the area. Feels guilty she wasn't there but doesn't know if it would have made a difference, she says the site always felt very safe to her and she had no concerns.
    • She does regret driving right up to the campground and in hindsight wishes everyone had been made to park their cars and walk up, but at that time she just wanted to get there and find him. Didn't look at the bigger picture.
    • They still buy DeOrr presents for birthday/Xmas/Easter in the hope he comes home.
    • Please let LE do their job, stay away from campground, stop the rumours as detracting from investigation
    • Hoping by Memorial Weekend (end of May) the police will have concluded search and reopened area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoverMeCagney View Post
    Thanks, Mickshawn. Watched it and made a few notes. Big/new info (IMO) is bolded:


    • Jessica's mom (Trina) was at work with phone on silent that Friday. At break time she realised she had several missed called from Jessica. She tried and tried to call her back, fearing that it was bad news about Grandpa and when she finally got through Jessica was incoherent and she had to tell her to calm down before realising what had happened. She went home, grabbed some clothes and set off to Leadore thinking DeOrr would be found by the time she got there.
    • She explains that she asked Jessica to go up to Leadore with Grandpa to keep an eye on him, she was worried it could be his last camping trip because of health problems. She had an engagement on Saturday and planned to join them Sat night or Sunday. Trina spent a lot of time at the campgound as a kid but had not been there for years. Jessica had never been there before.
    • On the drive up from Idaho Falls she was in contact with LE and knew on arrival from Jessica's eyes that DeOrr was still missing. Jessica collapsed and trembling.
    • Confirms true that Jessica called her mom before she called LE. She thinks Jessica just "needed her mom" to tell her it would be ok.
    • Sat night helicopters out, huge spotlight brought in, searching all night with flashlights calling DeOrr's name.
    • Confirms Grandpa has COPD and prostate cancer - no mental issues whatsoever, she says rumours about that are "very incorrect", he just needed oxygen.
    • Isaac lives in same neighborhood as Grandpa, kind of a handyman, does gardening, takes him fishing, is a companion and is appreciated by the family for being with Grandpa.
    • Trina confirms she took a polygraph which was inconclusive as she was so tired, it was after the fundraiser event. She has volunteered to do another at any time and is not worried at all about cooperating with LE.
    • No reason to believe Jessica lying, says she and Deorr was close and adored each other. Will not point the finger at any one else. Confirms only 4 adults on the trip, mentions other campers and locals in the area. Feels guilty she wasn't there but doesn't know if it would have made a difference, she says the site always felt very safe to her and she had no concerns.
    • She does regret driving right up to the campground and in hindsight wishes everyone had been made to park their cars and walk up, but at that time she just wanted to get there and find him. Didn't look at the bigger picture.
    • They still buy DeOrr presents for birthday/Xmas/Easter in the hope he comes home.
    • Please let LE do their job, stay away from campground, stop the rumours as detracting from investigation
    • Hoping by Memorial Weekend (end of May) the police will have concluded search and reopened area.

    Just wanted to add a few more... at around 6:30, TBC explains that she arrived at the campground about 15-20 minutes after LE/S&R. Chelsea adds something to the effect of "and you were coming from Idaho Falls."

    TBC also says, at around the 12:00 minute mark, that JM "loved her son and her other children very much."

    TBC mentions sleeping under a pickup truck, something she did there, at the same campground, when she was little.

    She wishes people who had come to help search had been made to park further out and walk up... Why was that so important to her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by renarde View Post
    Just wanted to add a few more... at around 6:30, TBC explains that she arrived at the campground about 15-20 minutes after LE/S&R. Chelsea adds something to the effect of "and you were coming from Idaho Falls."

    TBC also says, at around the 12:00 minute mark, that JM "loved her son and her other children very much."

    TBC mentions sleeping under a pickup truck, something she did there, at the same campground, when she was little.

    She wishes people who had come to help search had been made to park further out and walk up... Why was that so important to her?
    Does she think maybe the search scene wasn't organized enough? Could a searcher have somehow snuck off with the baby??

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoverMeCagney View Post
    Thanks, Mickshawn. Watched it and made a few notes. Big/new info (IMO) is bolded:


    • Jessica's mom (Trina) was at work with phone on silent that Friday. At break time she realised she had several missed called from Jessica. She tried and tried to call her back, fearing that it was bad news about Grandpa and when she finally got through Jessica was incoherent and she had to tell her to calm down before realising what had happened. She went home, grabbed some clothes and set off to Leadore thinking DeOrr would be found by the time she got there.
    • She explains that she asked Jessica to go up to Leadore with Grandpa to keep an eye on him, she was worried it could be his last camping trip because of health problems. She had an engagement on Saturday and planned to join them Sat night or Sunday. Trina spent a lot of time at the campgound as a kid but had not been there for years. Jessica had never been there before.
    • On the drive up from Idaho Falls she was in contact with LE and knew on arrival from Jessica's eyes that DeOrr was still missing. Jessica collapsed and trembling.
    • Confirms true that Jessica called her mom before she called LE. She thinks Jessica just "needed her mom" to tell her it would be ok.
    • Sat night helicopters out, huge spotlight brought in, searching all night with flashlights calling DeOrr's name.
    • Confirms Grandpa has COPD and prostate cancer - no mental issues whatsoever, she says rumours about that are "very incorrect", he just needed oxygen.
    • Isaac lives in same neighborhood as Grandpa, kind of a handyman, does gardening, takes him fishing, is a companion and is appreciated by the family for being with Grandpa.
    • Trina confirms she took a polygraph which was inconclusive as she was so tired, it was after the fundraiser event. She has volunteered to do another at any time and is not worried at all about cooperating with LE.
    • No reason to believe Jessica lying, says she and Deorr was close and adored each other. Will not point the finger at any one else. Confirms only 4 adults on the trip, mentions other campers and locals in the area. Feels guilty she wasn't there but doesn't know if it would have made a difference, she says the site always felt very safe to her and she had no concerns.
    • She does regret driving right up to the campground and in hindsight wishes everyone had been made to park their cars and walk up, but at that time she just wanted to get there and find him. Didn't look at the bigger picture.
    • They still buy DeOrr presents for birthday/Xmas/Easter in the hope he comes home.
    • Please let LE do their job, stay away from campground, stop the rumours as detracting from investigation
    • Hoping by Memorial Weekend (end of May) the police will have concluded search and reopened area.

    I am unable to watch this so thank you so much for these notes!!

    So in your notes I see that TBC defends Jessica, Isaac, and grandpa... But no mention is VDK?

    Your notes quote her saying she will not "point the finger" at anyone else. There were 4 adults on the trip, she mentions... Since I can't watch the video, can you please confirm, does she mention VDK in any way during this interview?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KatieLiz View Post
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    I am unable to watch this so thank you so much for these notes!!

    So in your notes I see that TBC defends Jessica, Isaac, and grandpa... But no mention is VDK?

    Your notes quote her saying she will not "point the finger" at anyone else. There were 4 adults on the trip, she mentions... Since I can't watch the video, can you please confirm, does she mention VDK in any way during this interview?
    I noticed this as well! She talks favorably of three of the adults and then mentions she won't point a finger at any of the FOUR adults on the trip.

    Also how far is it again from Idaho Falls to the campground. She said she was busy for a couple of hours and then realized she had missed calls from JM. She jumped in the car and drove there and managed to get there just 15-20 minutes after the first responders. I know it took an hour for the first responders to get there, but that time line still seems a bit wonky. I would love to know the times of Jessica's calls to her mom and the time her mom checked her voicemail. I can see why they had TBC do a polygraph :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountaingazer View Post
    I noticed this as well! She talks favorably of three of the adults and then mentions she won't point a finger at any of the FOUR adults on the trip.

    Also how far is it again from Idaho Falls to the campground. She said she was busy for a couple of hours and then realized she had missed calls from JM. She jumped in the car and drove there and managed to get there just 15-20 minutes after the first responders. I know it took an hour for the first responders to get there, but that time line still seems a bit wonky. I would love to know the times of Jessica's calls to her mom and the time her mom checked her voicemail. I can see why they had TBC do a polygraph :/
    About 2 hours from Idaho Falls to Leadore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KatieLiz View Post
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    I am unable to watch this so thank you so much for these notes!!

    So in your notes I see that TBC defends Jessica, Isaac, and grandpa... But no mention is VDK?

    Your notes quote her saying she will not "point the finger" at anyone else. There were 4 adults on the trip, she mentions... Since I can't watch the video, can you please confirm, does she mention VDK in any way during this interview?
    Do you know what, I don't think she mentioned him once. Good point! Not 100% certain though, I'm sure someone else will clarify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoverMeCagney View Post
    Do you know what, I don't think she mentioned him once. Good point! Not 100% certain though, I'm sure someone else will clarify.
    He was mentioned but by the name DeOrr rather than Vernal. I don't have an issue with the time line. She didn't say she saw the calls a couple of hours AFTER Jessica made them, just that she saw them when she took a break. Trina did say she spoke to Jessica before 911 was called and then she drove to Leadore, after going home to get a sweatshirt & tennis shoes. It fits right in with the time line of when the LE got there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butler View Post
    He was mentioned but by the name DeOrr rather than Vernal. I don't have an issue with the time line. She didn't say she saw the calls a couple of hours AFTER Jessica made them, just that she saw them when she took a break. Trina did say she spoke to Jessica before 911 was called and then she drove to Leadore, after going home to get a sweatshirt & tennis shoes. It fits right in with the time line of when the LE got there.
    I'm still shocked it took LE more than 2 hours to get anyone up there!


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    Its interesting to me that she says IR is appreciated by the family, because other family members including JM have been pretty quick to throw him under the bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoverMeCagney View Post
    I'm still shocked it took LE more than 2 hours to get anyone up there!
    It really is wide open spaces out here. Idaho is mostly agriculture or wilderness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butler View Post
    It really is wide open spaces out here. Idaho is mostly agriculture or wilderness.
    I know, but if Grandma managed to finish work, go home then set off on a 2 hour drive you would think some kind of first responder could have arrived sooner. I forget what the larger town is (Salmon?) but that's where the police dept is and there are volunteer firemen in Leadore I believe. Anyway, it's kinda academic because for whatever reason, they didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoverMeCagney View Post
    I know, but if Grandma managed to finish work, go home then set off on a 2 hour drive you would think some kind of first responder could have arrived sooner. I forget what the larger town is (Salmon?) but that's where the police dept is and there are volunteer firemen in Leadore I believe. Anyway, it's kinda academic because for whatever reason, they didn't.
    Perhaps 911 was called MUCH later than Trina was called??

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoverMeCagney View Post
    Do you know what, I don't think she mentioned him once. Good point! Not 100% certain though, I'm sure someone else will clarify.


    Yay! I'm actually proud of myself that I picked up on that now!! I feel like we are playing a game of Clue and trying to piece everything together. "It was Col Mustard in the study with a candlestick."

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