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  1. #1
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    Aug 2015

    MI - Manistee Co., UnsFem UP511, 20-60, in Lake Michigan, Oct'97

    The Doe Network 851UFMI

    Unidentified Female

    Date of Discovery: October 24, 1997
    Location of Discovery: Manistee County, Michigan
    Estimated Date of Death: Weeks prior to discovery
    State of Remains: Not recognizable - Decomposing/putrefaction
    Cause of Death: Unknown
    Physical Description

    ** Listed information is approximate

    Estimated Age: 20-60 years old
    Race: Unknown
    Gender: Female
    Height: 5'11"
    Weight: 200 lbs.
    Hair Color: No hair. Dark brown pubic hair.
    Eye Color: Unknown
    Distinguishing Marks/Features: Obese. Appendectomy scar. Pierced ears.
    Dentals: Available. Orthodontic bracket to 8 and 9.
    Fingerprints: Not available.
    DNA: Samples submitted - Tests not complete.
    Clothing & Personal Items

    Clothing: None.
    Jewelry: One clear stone earring.
    Additional Personal Items: None.
    Case History

    The decedent was located in Lake Michigan, against the break wall in Manistee, Michigan.
    Investigating Agency(s)

    If you have any information about this case please contact;

    Agency Name: Manistee County Medical Examiner's Office (MI)
    Agency Contact Person: Joyce deJong
    Agency Phone Number: 231-398-1153

    Agency Case Number: A97-192
    NCIC Case Number: N/A
    NamUs Case Number: MP/UP #511
    Former Hot Case Number: 1251
    Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.
    Information Source(s)

    Last edited by OkieGranny; 07-04-2016 at 02:34 AM. Reason: updated Doe link

  2. #2
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    Nov 2015
    Howell, NJ

  3. #3
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    Oct 2009
    New England
    I think the circumstances rule out Toni Bachman. Her Charley page has more details: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bachman_toni.html
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    New England
    Karen Mero would seem to be a possibility. She has an abdominal scar--hers is from a liver transplant but I'm not sure whether a postmortem could detect whether a liver had been transplanted--what kind of scars and traces it leaves? Her Charley: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mero_karen.html

    Jane Bui seems possible because of her spleen scar, but I would think the dentals would mention a gold tooth. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bui_jane.html

    I also found Vickie Baliel, who disappeared from California in August 1997. At 5'5" and 170 lbs, she's probably a bit small. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...el_vickie.html

    Crist has tattoos that aren't mentioned for the deceased, which makes her very unlikely. Dunn likewise, though she does have an abdominal scar and might be worth checking further to see if tats might have been destroyed by decomposition.

    Found a couple of others who also had tats, nobody that looked very promising.
    Last edited by carbuff; 06-08-2016 at 08:17 PM.
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Fairfield, Nelson Co, Ky USA
    Quote Originally Posted by KaylaraOwl View Post
    I couldn't find a thread on this lady, but saw that she was mentioned on this one. I've never been good about searching here on WS, so forgive me if she has a thread and I missed it. If there is one, could somebody point me to it?
    Anyway, she's been ID'ed. Actually, I think she was ID'ed a couple years ago and word just now got to DoeNet.

    Angela Rae Pilkerton, missing from Louisville (1997?) has apparently just been ID'ed. I'm from near Louisville, but haven't seen much of anything about her.

    And I'm really confused as to the details. On DoeNetwork's "Closed Cases 2016" page, there is a link (or a copy of a story) from 2014 (Coroner releases identity of body found near
    Churchill Downs
    ). I think it's from WAVE-3 (Louisville, KY) as it has a link to another story from them.

    Mother finds body in backyard
    WAVE-3 (NBC, Louisville KY)
    "I found a body that was laying down face down on the ground."

    A mother of two young girls was shaken up after finding a woman's dead body while throwing out the trash Saturday morning. The body was behind her fence at her home in the 1200 block of Phyllis Avenue, just blocks from Churchill Downs.
    Police have not said who the woman might be or how she was killed. She was in her early fifties.

    Terry is left to wonder what happened and why.

    "All I keep thinking was, 'Why was this my house.' I would have never expected anything like this to happen at my residence," Terry said.
    I don't understand what's up with the dates. Her DoeNet profile says that she went missing from Louisville around XMAS 1997. I don't remember hearing anything about her disappearance back then, but I was kind of in a Hell of a fog at the time. I had a bad wreck and I'd just got home from a month or so in the hospital/rehab (actually in Louisville).

    Could this lady have just been hiding out around Louisville for well over a decade?
    That's what those news stories sounded like. She was definitely a "fresh" body as the lady that found her in 2014 thought that she could have OD'ed or something. They weren't decomposed or skeletal remains.

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