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    FL - Mass Shooting at Pulse Nightclub, Orlando 12 June 2016 #3

    Before you participate in the discussion about this terrible tragedy you must understand one single thing...THIS DISCUSSION IS NOT ABOUT GUN CONTROL!

    Please, we are having to remove more posts than leave up because everyone is arguing gun control.

    As I have said before, the discussion will go nowhere but downhill fast if we discuss gun control. YOU NEED TO STOP OR YOU WILL BE TIMED OUT.

    That means any mention of gun control. If I let one mention stay up then I have to let the other side mention's stay up and round and round it goes.

    The title of this thread
    is: "FL- MASS SHOOTING AT PULSE NIGHTCLUB, ORLANDO 12 JUNE 2016! " THE TITLE IS NOT "GUN CONTROL ISSUES"!


    Thank you.

    From Wikipedia:
    On June 12, 2016, a mass shooting occurred at Pulse, a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida. At least 50 people, including the gunman, were killed and 53 others were wounded.[5][7] The shooter, Omar Mir Seddique Mateen, a 29-year-old Muslim American of Afghani descent, pledged allegiance to the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) immediately before the attack, which has been labeled an act of domestic terrorism.[8][9]

    The attack is the deadliest mass shooting in United States history,[12] the deadliest incident of violence against LGBT people in U.S. history,[13] and the deadliest attack on civilians in the U.S. since September 11, 2001.[1][14]

    VICTIM NAMES will be updated and posted here as families are notified http://www.cityoforlando.net/blog/victims/
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    Thank You Tricia for Thread #3.

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    http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/orlando-...?autoPlay=true

    ORLANDO, United States -- Omar Mateen was more than just a homicidal, jihadist-inspired homophobe when he shot his way through an Orlando nightclub early Sunday morning, according to a couple of the establishment regulars.

    He was also a repeat visitor.

    A drag-dancing married couple described seeing Mateen as many as a dozen times at the gay-friendly nightclub where he'd later embark on the single worst gun massacre in modern American history.

    Ty Smith and Chris Callen recalled the eventual killer being escorted drunk from the Pulse bar on multiple occasions, including one incident where he pointed a knife at a friend.

    Both professed shock at seeing his face on TV: "It's the same guy," said Callen, who performs under the name Kristina McLaughlin. "He's been going to this bar for at least three years."

    They say Mateen saw plenty of men kiss -- and far closer to home than Miami.

    "That's bullcrap, right there. No offence. That's straight-up crap. He's been around us," Smith said Monday in an interview at the GLBT Community Center of Central Florida.

    "Some of those people did a little more than (kiss) outside the bar.... He was partying with the people who supposedly drove him to do this?"

    Smith said the sometimes-visitor would show up with a buddy and let loose in a way he couldn't when he was closer to the family home in Port St. Lucie: "(He'd get) really, really drunk... He couldn't drink when he was at home -- around his wife, or family. His father was really strict... He used to ***** about it."

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    Back in 2001, he sure seemed to be pro-Islamic terrorism:

    Former classmates of the Orlando gunman recall Mateen standing up and cheering when the second plane hit the World Trade Center

    Another student says that Mateen went on to taunt others on the bus by making plane sounds

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...tes-claim.html
    JMO. MOO.

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    Sadly, the Islamic terrorists have been busy:

    Attacker 'who pledged allegiance to ISIS' murdered police commander and his wife at their home near Paris

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...n-hostage.html
    JMO. MOO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonjay View Post
    Back in 2001, he sure seemed to be pro-Islamic terrorism:

    Former classmates of the Orlando gunman recall Mateen standing up and cheering when the second plane hit the World Trade Center

    Another student says that Mateen went on to taunt others on the bus by making plane sounds

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...tes-claim.html
    Did anyone know when the second tower was hit what was going on and that is was guys from Saudi Arabia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by human View Post
    Did anyone know when the second tower was hit what was going on and that is was guys from Saudi Arabia?
    I think everyone knew. We didn't have the facts yet, but we knew.
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    I think that underlying issues will be via his father. His father expects and demands respect. Anything less then 'you're not my son or no son of mine would do x y z' the father seems to be Radicalised as it is. Wanting to become an Electorate in Afghanistan.
    Can't get my head round this for some reason. I thought his 'family lived in America. Umm *brain block*

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    I think Wife #2 had left him. She's in California, apparently in the town where her family lives. I don't think she just went there on Sunday after the word got out about OM being the shooter.

    So if she was in Florida "a few months ago" to be able to be in Miami with OM, their child and OM's father and witness two men kissing and she went to Disneyland in the not-too-far past, perhaps they just recently broke up?

    I'd like to hear from OM's current co-workers to hear what he has been raving around about most recently. Also, apart from his father who is on TV right now being interviewed, we have not heard from any friend. None of the "I never, ever thought he'd be capable of doing anything like this" type of appearances.

    A Fox News article quoting a people.com article referred to "Salman" as being his ex-wife. Salman is Wife #2 and I don't think we know yet that she is actually an "ex" wife. An article described the Ft. Meyers apartment as having a door standing wide open this morning. This was after police had searched the place. Several reporters went inside and inspected the apartment before notifying police about the open door. They reported seeing a child's bedroom with "kids bedding".
    Last edited by AlwaysShocked; 06-13-2016 at 11:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonjay View Post
    Sadly, the Islamic terrorists have been busy:

    Attacker 'who pledged allegiance to ISIS' murdered police commander and his wife at their home near Paris

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...n-hostage.html
    Well, it's Ramadan, right! They'll be richly rewarded for killing infidels. (Who'd want to serve a God that rewarded killing?)
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    I do wonder what his internet footprint will reveal...
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    According to this article, he also had a history of using steroids, which can cause emotional instability and problems with rage.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...rlando-gunman/

    He became involved with law enforcement at an early age. According to the DM article, he was injured at the age of 19 when riding along with LE during a citizen's ride-along program.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ple-there.html

    So, combining steroid use with long time interest and career in LE, from the Islamic faith with being a closeted gay man makes for a very messed up guy, full of rage and self-hatred, with access to some very deadly weapons.

    I wonder if his autopsy will show the presence of drugs and steroids.
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    Why did LE leave the door to his apartment unlocked and open? ???

    There's so much about how LE is handling this crime that I don't understand.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ar-Mateen.html
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    This guy sounds like a potpourri of pathology all destined to end in violence, closeted homophobe, had a love affair with ISIS and other acts of terrorism, small mans syndrome, possible roid rage .. I think he would have ended up a killer no matter what was happening politically and he chose his targets for the usual reason, they were killable en masse. Typical inadequate mass shooter IMO.
    Neither the state nor the defense team are saints, and there is usually plenty of incompetence to go around on both sides of the courtroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betty P View Post
    Why did LE leave the door to his apartment unlocked and open? ???

    There's so much about how LE is handling this crime that I don't understand.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ar-Mateen.html
    Yes, that is bizarre.

    I've got to say, that home looks very... normal.

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