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    Verdict: GUILTY for both Millard and Smich of 1st degree murder

    We are on verdict watch in the case against Dellen Millard and Mark Smich

    Juror deliberations commenced at 4:03 pm ET, Monday, June 13 2016. When a verdict is announced, the title of this thread will be updated to reflect that.

    Please remember The Rules and the ZERO TOLERANCE policy.

    Verdict Watch is a very tense waiting period and when a verdict is announced, emotions can be heightened, so please be aware of this and keep yourselves in check and post respectfully, with decorum, or take a break until you've calmed down.

    We won't forget Tim.



    Hearts and thoughts have been with Tim's loved ones on this very long journey,
    and will continue to be with them at this very critical time, after the verdicts, and for years to come.
    Last edited by sillybilly; 06-15-2016 at 11:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMB View Post
    Have you ever been to St. Jo's emergency??
    yup. And my father who was drove in by me was in and out within 90 mins. I was shocked LOL. This was abou 2 months ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhoo1961 View Post
    I have to admit that I have been curious to see what MS looks like now as opposed to when he was arrested. Many have said he doesn't look like the same person.
    He really does look very different IMO. The biggest thing I think is his hair not being buzzed, but instead it is few inches long, and very dark and parted at side and kind of gelled or something therefore looks groomed and stays in place. His whole look obviously is more conservative now, long sleeved collared shirts buttoned up, generally he presents pretty well and looks tidy not rumpled. Plus the expression on his face is more mature, stoic and serious. Also, he is a lot smaller in person IMO then he looks in pictures. Shorter, and even His frame and shoulders are narrow, his slimmer fitting clothing must have a lot to do with that. He's kind of on the little side.

    (IMO )
    On the other hand, I still can't get over how different DM looks. Risking being jumped on, I must say a few years ago, when pictures first came out of DM I honestly thought he looked strikingly attractive in some of the photos. Physically only obviously, and this is before any evidence came out.

    Between then and now he looks skinnier, much more 'haggard' with bags under his eyes. His hair is longer and 'mousy'.
    But beyond that, even his mug shot reminds me of how people's faces change so drastically over time with certain drugs (particularly Chrystal meth for example, Faces of meth anyone?) it seems like his face had already been changing already before going into custody. IMO only

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    I hope the juror will feel better soon and be back to continue deliberations.

    If the other jurors are to sit and just wait in the jury room without discussing the case, what the heck do they talk about or do??

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    Quote Originally Posted by mozzagirl View Post
    I hope the juror will feel better soon and be back to continue deliberations.

    If the other jurors are to sit and just wait in the jury room without discussing the case, what the heck do they talk about or do??
    Considering they can't have phones or any other form of communication device I would imagine they're reduced to playing "guard" supervised cards. I don't think they're even allowed to have a book with them. Tough job on a Jury like this. MOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhoo1961 View Post
    Or someone does a Code Blue in the building.

    In actuality he will just be added to the rotation with the rest of the patients.
    Then he will probably be at minimum 4 hours, based on my past experiences a this very hospital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meterclicks View Post
    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 5m5 minutes ago
    Hagerman knew Smich lived in Oakville and had been to his house to pick him up, when he was driving for Millard (Millard had lost license)

    Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 6m6 minutes ago
    Hagerman had the tool box. Michalski a blue knapsack. claims he didn't open it. "i just wanted to get rid of it.' decided MS cld pick it up.

    Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 6m6 minutes ago
    "Mark would have been able to take it off our hands," Hagerman says of the bag and the toolbox. "We didn't want to be anywhere near." #Bosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 6m6 minutes ago
    Hagerman says he didn't talk to Mark Smich but thinks Michalski did bc he was on his phone. #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 6m6 minutes ago
    Went to Oakville because Mark lived in Oakville. #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 6m6 minutes ago
    Michalski testified that he packed the drugs in his own pack and put them in his car. #Bosma

    Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 6m6 minutes ago
    Michalski had a blue back pack he got from Millard's home. He told Hagerman he never opened it. #TimBosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 6m6 minutes ago
    Hagerman said they agreed to drop off in Oakville. the ultimate decision was that mark was going to pick it up. #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 7m7 minutes ago
    Michalski told Hagerman he was given a blue backpack, which he had never opened, according to Hagerman


    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 6m6 minutes ago
    "The ultimate decision was, that like, Mark would have picked it up."

    Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 6m6 minutes ago
    "I just wanted it away from me", Hagerman said. #TimBosma #Bosma
    Did MS call AM or did AM call MS?

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    They should have their own notebooks and could review without discussing them.

    Otherwise nap and wait for lunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XiolaBlueX View Post
    He really does look very different IMO. The biggest thing I think is his hair not being buzzed, but instead it is few inches long, and very dark and parted at side and kind of gelled or something therefore looks groomed and stays in place. His whole look obviously is more conservative now, long sleeved collared shirts buttoned up, generally he presents pretty well and looks tidy not rumpled. Plus the expression on his face is more mature, stoic and serious. Also, he is a lot smaller in person IMO then he looks in pictures. Shorter, and even His frame and shoulders are narrow, his slimmer fitting clothing must have a lot to do with that. He's kind of on the little side.

    (IMO )
    On the other hand, I still can't get over how different DM looks. Risking being jumped on, I must say a few years ago, when pictures first came out of DM I honestly thought he looked strikingly attractive in some of the photos. Physically only obviously, and this is before any evidence came out.

    Between then and now he looks skinnier, much more 'haggard' with bags under his eyes. His hair is longer and 'mousy'.
    But beyond that, even his mug shot reminds me of how people's faces change so drastically over time with certain drugs (particularly Chrystal meth for example, Faces of meth anyone?) it seems like his face had already been changing already before going into custody. IMO only
    I think it's generally widely believe that DM was an attractive young man. Back in 2013 when I heard that a 27 year old (I think that was his age at the time) was arrested for Bosma's disappearance, and later a 24 yr old (Smich), I was surprised to see the pics of DM and MS. I was expecting to see someone more like MWJ. Yep, I judge books by their cover, even though I know better.

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    Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC Hamilton, Ontario
    Court staff just advised me it appears court will resume at 1:30 pm. #timbosma #bosma #hamont



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    wish there was a body language expert who could give us some information about what the differences in their demeanor means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mozzagirl View Post
    I hope the juror will feel better soon and be back to continue deliberations.

    If the other jurors are to sit and just wait in the jury room without discussing the case, what the heck do they talk about or do??
    They will just go back to what they've been doing for the past 4 months when they were spending hours in the jury room without being able to talk about the trial. I'd imagine some have formed a close bond and talk about their lives and family away from this trial.

    Looks like they will also have some lunch and then be back to deliberate at 1:30pm.

    MOO

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    Susan is answering some questions and this one caught my eye, multiple people have been asking this:

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 5m5 minutes ago
    Police were unaware of her involvement with wiping prints of the trailer until Christina Noudga testified.

    @susanclairmont i want to know how Millards mother isnt being charged as an accessory or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XiolaBlueX View Post
    He really does look very different IMO. The biggest thing I think is his hair not being buzzed, but instead it is few inches long, and very dark and parted at side and kind of gelled or something therefore looks groomed and stays in place. His whole look obviously is more conservative now, long sleeved collared shirts buttoned up, generally he presents pretty well and looks tidy not rumpled. Plus the expression on his face is more mature, stoic and serious. Also, he is a lot smaller in person IMO then he looks in pictures. Shorter, and even His frame and shoulders are narrow, his slimmer fitting clothing must have a lot to do with that. He's kind of on the little side.

    (IMO )
    On the other hand, I still can't get over how different DM looks. Risking being jumped on, I must say a few years ago, when pictures first came out of DM I honestly thought he looked strikingly attractive in some of the photos. Physically only obviously, and this is before any evidence came out.

    Between then and now he looks skinnier, much more 'haggard' with bags under his eyes. His hair is longer and 'mousy'.
    But beyond that, even his mug shot reminds me of how people's faces change so drastically over time with certain drugs (particularly Chrystal meth for example, Faces of meth anyone?) it seems like his face had already been changing already before going into custody. IMO only
    BBM
    In regards to DM, if he was using steroids and cocaine, I find it totally believable he could lift TB alone. TB isn't said to be very big himself.
    Whether or not he did is another question, but IIRC someone else noted in testimony, that back in 2013 his stature was completely different, he was more built.
    One of the side effects of cocaine is major mood swings, and using it makes someone euphoric and full of energy. (which if the mood was celebratory could explain a lot)
    Steroids also alter your mood, makes you irritable, increased aggression etc. - think "roid rage" MOO
    Last edited by canadiangirl; 06-15-2016 at 12:46 PM.
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    @susanclairmont what the heck?! How disrespectful! & if she thinks DM and MS are innocent of all things, I think she's brainwashed...
    10:30 AM - 15 Jun 2016

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 18m18 minutes ago
    She almost certainly has mental health issues.

    @susanclairmont CRACKPOT !! I hope the cops arrested her ?!

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 18m18 minutes ago
    No. The @HamiltonPolice officers were firm, but kind.

    @susanclairmont Thought doors were locked when in session?

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 19m19 minutes ago
    Doors were locked during the judge's charge and will be again for the verdict.

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