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    FL - Mass Shooting at Pulse Nightclub, Orlando 12 June 2016 #4

    Before you participate in the discussion about this terrible tragedy you must understand one single thing...THIS DISCUSSION IS NOT ABOUT GUN CONTROL!

    Please, we are having to remove more posts than leave up because everyone is arguing gun control.

    As I have said before, the discussion will go nowhere but downhill fast if we discuss gun control. YOU NEED TO STOP OR YOU WILL BE TIMED OUT.

    That means any mention of gun control. If I let one mention stay up then I have to let the other side mention's stay up and round and round it goes.

    The title of this thread
    is: "FL- MASS SHOOTING AT PULSE NIGHTCLUB, ORLANDO 12 JUNE 2016! " THE TITLE IS NOT "GUN CONTROL ISSUES"!


    Thank you.

    From Wikipedia:
    On June 12, 2016, a mass shooting occurred at Pulse, a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida. At least 50 people, including the gunman, were killed and 53 others were wounded.[5][7] The shooter, Omar Mir Seddique Mateen, a 29-year-old Muslim American of Afghani descent, pledged allegiance to the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) immediately before the attack, which has been labeled an act of domestic terrorism.[8][9]

    The attack is the deadliest mass shooting in United States history,[12] the deadliest incident of violence against LGBT people in U.S. history,[13] and the deadliest attack on civilians in the U.S. since September 11, 2001.[1][14]

    VICTIM NAMES will be updated and posted here as families are notified http://www.cityoforlando.net/blog/victims/
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    A student at the college where Omar Mateen applied for an intensive six-month law enforcement training program told NBC News Wednesday that the Orlando shooter was rejected from the program in 2015 -- confirming what Mateen's father told NBC News Tuesday.

    One student said he saw Mateen on the campus of Indian River State College in spring 2015 and another said that since Sunday's shooting he had been told by an instructor in the IRSC's criminal justice program that Mateen was rejected.
    The Florida Dept of Law Enforcement said that Mateen filed a complaint, claiming he was turned away because he was Muslim.
    More at the link:

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orl...rogram-n593176

    Injustice collector?

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    is it ok if i mention that stuff like this san berdino and boston are because our president has handcuffed the FBI from doing its job?

    they knew this guy hangs out with terrorist Imams, suicide bombers and he told them himself he wanted to martyr himself in front of them.....but that isnt good enough to arrest a terrorist anymore in this country i guess. becaue of the policies set forth by obama.

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    He said: 'He was like the guy who would do anything to try to fit in. He wanted to fit in really bad."

    'He was kind of a loner. He just really wanted to fit in. I think he wanted friends really badly and the only ones who really accepted him at school were gays."

    'He had gay friends. I don't think it was so much a gay thing why he shot the place up it was that in the end they didn't really accept him and he felt betrayed.'

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4BhelX5fi

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    Like Father Like son --hot air!!

    Drew Griffin got me going on this. He alluded that dad was a bunch of BS. SO it made me curious about what a potent political person this dude is over there

    He makes infomercials
    !!!!

    is a fringe political commentator who rails against Pakistan and Afghan President Ashraf Ghani.


    2015 video, Mateen declared his own candidacy for the Afghan presidency, even though there was no election at that time.(is that not a hoot opppss)


    In the videos, he wears a Western suit and tie

    s

    occasional television show on a U.S.-based Afghan satellite channel .....post political commentaries on his Facebook page as recently as Sunday. Mateen occasionally bought time on his channel subcontinent's former British rulers.


    Siddique, said his son's rampage had "nothing to do with religion."
    Mateen would show up at his studio in Canoga Park, California, "three or four times a year" to tape his shows.
    "He'd talk for about two to three hours,""He'd buy his own time and come here and broadcast and leave within a day."

    It appears as if this image that dad had all this political power and terrorism ackground is totally wrong.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-florida-shooting-father-idUSKCN0YY109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyday Grace View Post
    More at the link:

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orl...rogram-n593176

    Injustice collector?
    Did they do a background test an decide he was unstable? I didnt read the article just wondering.

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    While federal authorities have been reviewing whether the 29-year-old security guard had considered other locations in the area, including Disney World, Ron Hopper, who is managing the broad federal inquiry, said there was no evidence to indicate other possible targets.
    "With respect to the wife,'' Hopper said, "that is only one of many interviews that we have done.''

    Orlando U.S. Attorney Lee Bentley III also suggested that a decision on charges was not imminent.

    "Indeed, we don't know what charges will be brought, or if charges will be brought,'' Bentley said.
    More at the link:

    http://amp.usatoday.com/story/85948262/

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    it had nothing to do with fitting in and everything to do with him wanting to be an ISIS Hero.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyday Grace View Post
    More at the link:

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orl...rogram-n593176

    Injustice collector?
    rejection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetT View Post
    Did they do a background test an decide he was unstable? I didnt read the article just wondering.
    It didn't say. I kinda flew through the article myself. The comment from FLDE was at the end of it.

    It seems possible that FLDE could have access to information from his FBI probes or at least had knowledge they existed.

    That wouldn't be excluding him because of his religion, but because he could be considered a high risk because of the inflammatory statements that resulted in the first FBI probe.

    A psych profile may also have been part of the selection/rejection process. One would hope so.

    The program is an accelerated one where candidates ride with officers on duty.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bostonstrong View Post
    it had nothing to do with fitting in and everything to do with him wanting to be an ISIS Hero.
    OR


    everything to do with fitting in and nothing to do with him wanting to be an ISIS Hero.


    IMO both are present ............neither mutually exclusive, its which one is primary. You vote former, I vote latter!!

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    He actually loved gay people and just had a hard way of expressing himself. Is that the acceptable narrative?
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    there's an actual debate as to whether this guy is a terrorist going on here?

    i really dont believe it...........the guy is making calls and facebook posts during the attack pledging alliegence to ISIS.

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    A powerful image shows Target employees at a Florida store holding a moment of silence for two of the victims of the Orlando massacre who were members of their team.

    CBS News' Jamie Yuccas reports that mass shooting victims Merecedez Flores and Luis Omar Ocasio-Capo were both Target employees.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/target-e...mass-shooting/

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    Quote Originally Posted by bostonstrong View Post
    there's an actual debate as to whether this guy is a terrorist going on here?

    i really dont believe it...........the guy is making calls and facebook posts during the attack pledging alliegence to ISIS.
    Believe it. Astounding, I agree.
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