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    FL- Broward Co., WhtFem Skeletal UP1262, 11-19, seashell pendant, Sep'83

    NCMEC created a new composite for this doe, but I couldn't find a thread for her anywhere.

    Date of Discovery: September 19, 1983
    Location of Discovery: Broward, Broward County, Florida
    Estimated Date of Death: Several months to a year prior
    State of Remains: Not recognizable - Near complete or complete skeleton
    Cause of Death: Homicide by strangulation


    Physical Description

    Estimated Age: 11-19 years old
    Race: White, but may be of mixed ancestry.
    Gender: Female
    Height: 5'0" to 5'4"
    Weight: 90-100 lbs.
    Hair Color: Brown or auburn, of medium length.
    Eye Color: Unknown


    Distinguishing Marks/Features: Small to medium build. Possibly Native, Asian, and/or Hispanic facial traits. There were signs of previous fractures to her left ankle and right wrist. She may have walked with a limp. An anthropological exam of the bones revealed that the female had Spina Bifida in her back but was possibly unaware of the condition because it was asymptomatic. The female also had osteoarthritis in her left hip and left leg that was most likely a result from a previous traumatic injury and possibly produced a chronic aching and altered range of motion in her left leg joints. The female also suffered a fracture to her left ankle earlier in life that may or may not have been associated to the osteoarthritis. She was wearing red or purple toenail polish. She may have had a colostomy.

    Dentals: Available. She had a marked overbite and extensive dental work, including several fillings.
    Fingerprints: Not Available
    DNA: Available

    Clothing & Personal Items
    Clothing: None.
    Jewelry: A gold chain with a seashell pendant.
    Additional Personal Items: None.


    Circumstances of Discovery

    A trucker found the victim's skeletal remains found along a canal on a remote stretch of U.S. Route 27. 8 miles north of State Road 84.

    Agency Case Number: 1983-1245
    NCIC Case Number: U717148363
    NamUs Case Number: 1262
    NCMEC Case Number: 1184238

    Doe Page: http://doenetwork.org/cases/428uffl.html
    Namus Page: https://identifyus.org/cases/1262
    NCMEC- http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMU/1184238/


    Ruled Out:

    Teresa Fittin
    Marcia Remick
    Emma Vaughn

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    http://nampn.org/cases/vanschoick_leah.html Also missing from Broward County, about a year prior. The stats line up fairly well, but I'm not sure if the face shape is right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EffyElsewhere View Post
    http://nampn.org/cases/vanschoick_leah.html Also missing from Broward County, about a year prior. The stats line up fairly well, but I'm not sure if the face shape is right.
    I feel like the face shape is kind of there but Doe has brown hair, not blonde.

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    I wouldn't call the color in her picture exactly blonde. More of a light brown.
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    I couldn't find anyone listed as missing with the history of the presumably extensive injuries that this Jane Doe has. There's always the possibility that they occurred after she went missing, however remote. Ellen Akers http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/akers_ellen.html is one that I think should be looked at. Launa Merritt http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...itt_launa.html resembles the composite and possibly ran away/absconded. Carol Donn http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/donn_carol.html, Donna Barnhill http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ill_donna.html, and Kimberly Rae Doss http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...berly_rae.html are all a bit tall. Mary Hogland-McCluskey http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...skey_mary.html has a history of running away. Teresa McDonald http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ld_teresa.html, Christine Huyer http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...christine.html, and Eva Ridall http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/ridall_eva.html have little information available.
    Who is Fly Creek Jane Doe?

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    This Jane Doe has been nameless for 34 years today.
    Who is Fly Creek Jane Doe?

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    I'm still new to this and don't fancy myself very good with faces, but these are the people mention that I "like" just because of how much I feel they look like this unidentified woman.

    Ellen Linda Ackers. I think the date of disappearance is about a year more than this Jane Doe and she seems heavier. But I think she wide shape of the face matches. Jane Doe's eyes appear a little more narrow.
    WS page: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ighlight=ellen

    Leah Jean Van Schoik: Again, a little heavier than Jane Doe, but the narrow eyes match well. Date of disappearance would fit on the longer side, since it was about a year.
    Her WS page: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...highlight=leah



    I think they all have potential, really. I dismissed a few because of weight, but it's possible she could have been held and lost weight somehow?

    Does it hurt to mass submit possibilities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iliketotalk15 View Post
    I'm still new to this and don't fancy myself very good with faces, but these are the people mention that I "like" just because of how much I feel they look like this unidentified woman.

    Ellen Linda Ackers. I think the date of disappearance is about a year more than this Jane Doe and she seems heavier. But I think she wide shape of the face matches. Jane Doe's eyes appear a little more narrow.
    WS page: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ighlight=ellen

    Leah Jean Van Schoik: Again, a little heavier than Jane Doe, but the narrow eyes match well. Date of disappearance would fit on the longer side, since it was about a year.
    Her WS page: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...highlight=leah



    I think they all have potential, really. I dismissed a few because of weight, but it's possible she could have been held and lost weight somehow?

    Does it hurt to mass submit possibilities?
    No, it can only help. With the new NamUs guidelines: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...making-matches for submitting matches something to keep in mind is that you'll have to submit them both separately. Another thing is that it is very difficult to estimate weight for skeletal remains so it could be off.
    Who is Fly Creek Jane Doe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EffyElsewhere View Post
    She may have had a colostomy.
    Does anyone know how common it is for someone of this assumed age to have a colostomy?

    It sounds as though it should be quite distinctive.

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    that's near immokalee and I would bet that's where she was from. SR 84 is now I75. Immokallee Indians are not gonna say anything to LE


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    Quote Originally Posted by MelmothTheLost View Post
    Does anyone know how common it is for someone of this assumed age to have a colostomy?

    It sounds as though it should be quite distinctive.
    That would be pretty unusual. I wonder why they think she may have had one, maybe they found a bag nearby?
    Who is Fly Creek Jane Doe?

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    Namus doesn't mention it.

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    NamUs doesn't, but Doe Network mentions the possible colostomy. I don't know how easily they would be able to tell that from skeletal remains or if something else clued them in on that.
    Who is Fly Creek Jane Doe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theshadow45 View Post
    NamUs doesn't, but Doe Network mentions the possible colostomy. I don't know how easily they would be able to tell that from skeletal remains or if something else clued them in on that.
    Yeah I know. I was just pointing out the discrepancy in the sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theshadow45 View Post
    That would be pretty unusual. I wonder why they think she may have had one, maybe they found a bag nearby?
    The wikipedia entry for colostomy states:

    Children undergoing surgery for extensive pelvic tumors commonly are given a colostomy in preparation for surgery to remove the tumor, followed by reversal of the colostomy.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colostomy

    However given the other leg and hip injuries she'd suffered, it's possible that she may have also had serious abdominal injuries in an accident such as an RTA.

    ETA: It seems a colostomy can also be used for Crohns and diverticulitis, but I'm not sure how well recognised those conditions were 35 years ago and how they were or were not treated.

    Also the wikipedia article states:

    Loop colostomy: This type of colostomy is usually used in emergencies and is a temporary and large stoma. A loop of the bowel is pulled out onto the abdomen and held in place with an external device.
    I've no idea what such a device might look like (maybe one of the medical bods here could clarify this) but maybe this was what they found with the remains.

    ETA scratch that last idea. Apparently the device is a bridge to support the pulled out loop of the gut and is usually only left in place for a few days.
    Last edited by MelmothTheLost; 09-28-2017 at 08:38 AM.

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