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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #33




    "A fitness trainer and mother of three was murdered in a Dallas-area church Monday morning by a man wearing SWAT gear, police said."

    "Boot camp-style exercise class participants who showed up at the Creekside Church of Christ in Midlothian, Tex., around 5 a.m. found their instructor Terri “Missy” Bevers, 45, dead, according to the Midlothian Police Department."

    "Fitness trainer Terri (Missy) Bevers, 45, was killed early Monday just before her boot-camp style class, police said. Participants in the Camp Gladiator class found her dead when they arrived to a Midlothian, Tex., church for the workout."

    "Police Chief Carl Smith said a man wearing what looked like a tactical helmet, gloves and a heavy vest with "POLICE" written on it could be seen in security camera footage from the E. U.S. Highway 287 church just before Bevers arrived. The department released the 4 a.m. footage Monday afternoon, though Smith said no cameras captured the attack."

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    Missy entering through the doors in the SW corner has really thrown me for a loop. Part of the reason that I assumed MB entered through the western doors was because her movements in the building would have been very clear. Her movements would have also been very consistent with a routine. However, now that we know MB entered through the SW doors I am left with many questions:

    1) What was MB doing in the building?
    2) Where was she heading?
    3) Was this part of her normal routine? Rain or shine?

    If she was heading to get ice or water in the kitchen, why did SP not attack her there? (S)he would have known the attack would have been off camera. At this point, I definitely have more questions than answers.

    Also, the only scenario that that lines up with LE's statements is what SteveS previously outlined. Did MB enter the auditorium or room #2 on her own accord? If so, why? If not, she must have been pulled into that space, I think. That would lead me to believe that SP must have been an extremely strong individual.

    Given that MB entered through the SW doors and I believe that this was a targeted hit, who knew her exact routine? IMO, MB's routine is not abundantly obvious... I cannot even imagine it myself. This is someone who knew exactly where MB would be and at what time. I am relooking at those who have superior knowledge of the church or of CG.

    For those of you who asked, one of the SWs or official pressers from LE stated that MB arrived at 4:16 and "immediately" entered the church. I quickly tried to find the exact language, but I could not locate it. I am 100% confident that LE said that MB immediately entered the church. I read that language after a poster had linked to a MSM article stating that MB was in the process of unloading her car so the word "immediately" caught my attention. If no one finds it before then, I will locate it this evening.

    ETA - I don't think that the cameras inside would have been able to capture MB's headlights. The cameras were not even sensitive enough to capture a walking person in their field of view. How does LE know exactly what time MB arrived?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GA_Peach View Post

    ETA - I don't think that the cameras inside would have been able to capture MB's headlights. The cameras were not even sensitive enough to capture a walking person in their field of view. How does LE know exactly what time MB arrived?
    I'm not sure the cameras would be activated by outside lights but if the cameras were already active due to motion inside, they may show headlights outside or reflecting off walls.

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    I found where LE mentions that MB immediately entered the church. In the April 22 press conference, Chief Kevin Johnson mentions MB's movements.

    Midlothian PD Asst, Chief Kevin Johnson states:

    "Here is what we know right now. The suspect arrived at the church first and forced entry into the location. Missy arrived a few minutes later. Excuse me, first time surveillance captured uh the suspect on video was about 10 minutes before 4am. Miss Bevers arrived at about 4:16 in the parking lot and entered the church immediately. A few minutes later she was inside the church, not realizing the intruder was already inside. Shortly thereafter she was murdered inside of the church."

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/dFyae4KYe74 (Relevant video/audio is minute 1:16 to 1:45)
    Last edited by GA_Peach; 07-18-2016 at 03:48 PM.

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    By the time MB finished parking, it sounds like SP was already waiting for her. If SP was in position, the interior cameras would havely likely turned off due to their time limitations.
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    Everyone here has or may have a scenario
    1) SP
    2) SP and look.out
    3) SP and one who did actual killing
    4) hired killing
    5) Family
    6) church involvement
    7) B/E
    8) gun runners
    9) illegal steroid distribution
    10) jealous wife
    11) jilted lover
    12) gamer

    I am going back and starting at thread no 1. It is amazing how most of these ideas ...even 2 perps...was thought of even in that very first thread.

    Escape route, vehicle or mode is interesting but please know that seeing something from Google Earth and looking down on it is much different that looking straight on at it from ground level. I highly doubt that SP left by foot knowing the areas in which he would have to walk. Yes SP could have crossed the highway but that would be very risky especially in the dark.

    We we also have a very small window of time for SP to escape unnoticed ...17 minutes. 17 minutes to end a life clean up a little exit the building without being seen and leave the property

    We all won't agree and that's ok. But it gets all of us thinking. I keep thinking about B/E scenario and haven't gotten one to work yet, but I haven't closed my mind to it. And although LE has said MB came in SW doors and moved toward SPs last location I am with GA peach that unless she's going to get something from kitchen why was she walking that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GA_Peach View Post
    I found where LE mentions that MB immediately entered the church. In the April 22 press conference, Chief Kevin Johnson mentions MB's movements.

    Midlothian PD Asst, Chief Kevin Johnson states:

    "Here is what we know right now. The suspect arrived at the church first and forced entry into the location. Missy arrived a few minutes later. Excuse me, first time surveillance captured uh the suspect on video was about 10 minutes before 4am. Miss Bevers arrived at about 4:16 in the parking lot and entered the church immediately.
    A few minutes later she was inside the church, not realizing the intruder was already inside. Shortly thereafter she was murdered inside of the church."

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/dFyae4KYe74 (Relevant video/audio is minute 1:16 to 1:45)
    So either (1) she was captured on an outside camera or (2) the truck lights some how triggered an inside camera. Right? I'm noticing they say "she arrived in the parking lot", which is pretty specific.

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    What if SP had broken everything to look like a B/E but actually had a key?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GA_Peach View Post
    Missy entering through the doors in the SW corner has really thrown me for a loop. Part of the reason that I assumed MB entered through the western doors was because her movements in the building would have been very clear. Her movements would have also been very consistent with a routine. However, now that we know MB entered through the SW doors I am left with many questions:

    1) What was MB doing in the building?
    2) Where was she heading?
    3) Was this part of her normal routine? Rain or shine?

    If she was heading to get ice or water in the kitchen, why did SP not attack her there? (S)he would have known the attack would have been off camera. At this point, I definitely have more questions than answers.

    Also, the only scenario that that lines up with LE's statements is what SteveS previously outlined. Did MB enter the auditorium or room #2 on her own accord? If so, why? If not, she must have been pulled into that space, I think. That would lead me to believe that SP must have been an extremely strong individual.

    Given that MB entered through the SW doors and I believe that this was a targeted hit, who knew her exact routine? IMO, MB's routine is not abundantly obvious... I cannot even imagine it myself. This is someone who knew exactly where MB would be and at what time. I am relooking at those who have superior knowledge of the church.

    For those of you who asked, one of the SWs or official pressers from LE stated that MB arrived at 4:16 and "immediately" entered the church. I quickly tried to find the exact language, but I could not locate it. I am 100% confident that LE said that MB immediately entered the church. I read that language after a poster had linked to a MSM article stating that MB was in the process of unloading her car so the word "immediately" caught my attention. If no one finds it before then, I will locate it this evening.

    ETA - I don't think that the cameras inside would have been able to capture MB's headlights. The cameras were not even sensitive enough to capture a walking person in their field of view. How does LE know exactly what time MB arrived?
    I agree the routine is important. Did she arrive earlier when it rained? Did she do 'extras' when classes are moved to the awning/or moved indoors? Did she have to unlock an extra door, move extra equipment in, find a plug for the music? Let's say for example on a typical day she just unlocked the SW doors and turned on lights to the bathrooms, then that would mean she was in and out quickly. If that is the case, then we can assume that is why SP picked the bad weather day. It would be pretty hard to try to convince people that someone that was in there for just a minute in only one location of a big church would run into a burglar, thus getting killed.

    If she had to go to the kitchen to get ice, then it would take longer, but like you said seems more likely the confrontation would have happened there without all the staging. I also think it is weird that campers wouldn't bring their own water and she would need to provide ice.

    I guess as far as LE knowing the time she arrived, I thought they saw her on camera and it was time stamped. They also had the outdoor stores cameras to narrow in with too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GA_Peach View Post
    I found where LE mentions that MB immediately entered the church. In the April 22 press conference, Chief Kevin Johnson mentions MB's movements.

    Midlothian PD Asst, Chief Kevin Johnson states:

    "Here is what we know right now. The suspect arrived at the church first and forced entry into the location. Missy arrived a few minutes later. Excuse me, first time surveillance captured uh the suspect on video was about 10 minutes before 4am. Miss Bevers arrived at about 4:16 in the parking lot and entered the church immediately. A few minutes later she was inside the church, not realizing the intruder was already inside. Shortly thereafter she was murdered inside of the church."

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/dFyae4KYe74 (Relevant video/audio is minute 1:16 to 1:45)
    In reviewing his statement, it doesn't make sense.

    "she arrived in the parking lot and entered the church immediately.
    A few minutes later she was inside the church (huh?) not realizing the intruder was already inside."

    Maybe he meant the sanctuary? ?

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    Just heard press conference for Baton Rouge shooting.

    Chief said something
    the public has a has a right to know and we want you to know but we must protect the integrity of the case because it is a large case and there are a lot moving pieces.

    I think we can apply that to this case as well.

    Prayers for the Dallas and Baton Rouge Police Officers and their families and friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwyndolyn View Post
    I agree the routine is important. Did she arrive earlier when it rained? Did she do 'extras' when classes are moved to the awning/or moved indoors? Did she have to unlock an extra door, move extra equipment in, find a plug for the music? Let's say for example on a typical day she just unlocked the SW doors and turned on lights to the bathrooms, then that would mean she was in and out quickly. If that is the case, then we can assume that is why SP picked the bad weather day. It would be pretty hard to try to convince people that someone that was in there for just a minute in only one location of a big church would run into a burglar, thus getting killed.

    If she had to go to the kitchen to get ice, then it would take longer, but like you said seems more likely the confrontation would have happened there without all the staging. I also think it is weird that campers wouldn't bring their own water and she would need to provide ice.

    I guess as far as LE knowing the time she arrived, I thought they saw her on camera and it was time stamped. They also had the outdoor stores cameras to narrow in with too.
    Missy did have a handful common friends (at least on facebook) with the Office Manager of the church. It is possible that, while not necessarily friends, this wasn't strictly a business relationship. That they talked, were cordial and such. So it could be something like perhaps Missy brought a souvenir or gift of some sort from Austin for someone. Or maybe Missy arranged to put some CG stuff at the church (a closet or room) before she left for Austin so that set up for the class her first morning back would be easier after a long day the day before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razz View Post
    In reviewing his statement, it doesn't make sense.

    "she arrived in the parking lot and entered the church immediately.
    A few minutes later she was inside the church (huh?) not realizing the intruder was already inside."

    Maybe he meant the sanctuary? ?

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    I don't see a reason for her to enter the sanctuary. Pretty sure the church would not be cool with an exercise class taking place there.

    I lean on the SW rather than off the cuff statements made at a presser. And it says:

    "At approximately 0418 hours, the victim Terri Bevers is observed entering the building through the main door under the awning area. The video shows Terri Bevers walking toward where the suspects location. Neither the suspect nor victim, were seen again on video. The victim was later found deceased at the south west comer of the interior of the building."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jethro4WS View Post
    Missy did have a handful common friends (at least on facebook) with the Office Manager of the church. It is possible that, while not necessarily friends, this wasn't strictly a business relationship. That they talked, were cordial and such. So it could be something like perhaps Missy brought a souvenir or gift of some sort from Austin for someone. Or maybe Missy arranged to put some CG stuff at the church (a closet or room) before she left for Austin so that set up for the class her first morning back would be easier after a long day the day before.
    Ok Jethro. I'm pickin up what you're putting down but the only way I might agree w/ your library scenario is if....one of the elders owns a silver Altima.

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