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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Is View Post
    Just to point out more lies............in Batch 2 Discovery Docs. , part 2, Bates 4250 Second paragraph at the end, AW talks about CWW owning a firearm.
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    Just stopping by to say "thank you" to everyone that is continuing to sleuth this case. We are a long way off from a trial and you never know what can be found within the documents. I haven't been on much as I found the anniversary particularly tough and work has gotten very busy but when I do pop in, I continue to be amazed at the efforts of all the brilliant people on this forum. Thank you again. Justice for Teresa and Justice for her girls and her family -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxine2U View Post
    I had to stop and react to this before I read the rest of the posts. FL, EXACTLY!!! She sounded like me when I was 13 getting irritated with my mom because she wouldn't let me go to the mall. I would also love to see video, I bet she was rolling her eyes. How freaking bizarre.

    Imagine you are home with your brand new husband and grandson, asleep. You are in your late thirties/early forties. The freaking SWAT TEAM explodes into your home and then you find yourself sitting in an interview room with a detective who is there investigating the MURDER of your DH's BFF's wife. And your DH just got back from Florida where you thought he was doing something else, something normal, not, you know, being a hit man. Would you be LAUGHING about how you might have had sex with said DH's BFF "Tee Hee, they look a lot alike!" I mean, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. And then would you be whining because the mean police detective is asking you questions? What planet is this lady on?
    The last thing I would be doing is laughing. Dry heaving, maybe, but not laughing. After supposedly spending a week helping her husband's BFF grieve for his late wife and then driving home, you would think she would not find these questions amusing, I am still SMH at this case.
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    I am recalling police interviewing at least one, if not two, of AW's co-workers at the restaurant. I have tried to find these interviews in order to review them and have not found them.
    Is there anyone who can point me in the right direction for these? Thanks a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysShocked View Post
    I am recalling police interviewing at least one, if not two, of AW's co-workers at the restaurant. I have tried to find these interviews in order to review them and have not found them.
    Is there anyone who can point me in the right direction for these? Thanks a lot.
    Here is at least one of them, the SH interview, very first one:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3g...ew?usp=sharing
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    Attachment 98789
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    Quote Originally Posted by beach View Post
    Re the blue outlined box -

    As they arrived back in MO, Wayne dropped JR off at his home in Cadet, then swung through McDonalds before finally arriving back home to their trailer at 9:19pm. I can't prove Angie had a burner phone yet, and can't prove that she had Wayne's burner phone # but it is clear to me that she was communicating with him some way. IMO, she wouldn't have left her mother's as early as 5:00p unless she knew Wayne was going to be home soon after.
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    Check out #15 in the defense's motion for disclosure of grand jury testimony:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greater Than View Post
    RSBM & BBM
    Check out #15 in the defense's motion for disclosure of grand jury testimony:
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    Thank you for this, Greater Than

    Number 18:
    The fact that CWW is required to and agrees to take a polygraph exam is brilliant (bad for MS). Assuming CWW told the truth in his statement and will continue to tell the truth during testimony against MS, that will take take care of any doubts the MS is trying to bring up to deflect attention away from himself.

    How would MS know about any omissions CWW may have made in his statement? How could MS explain that he knew such things if he's innocent and has been saying all along that CWW would never have murdered his wife?

    Was the burner phone AW allegedly used during the three-day period mentioned in any of CWW's statements or interviews - do we know? Otherwise, 1) it's another lie by MS, 2) if true, but not in any CWW statement, then how did MS know? That would imply that MS had knowledge of CWW's involvement either before (MS hired him) or afterwards. If MS continues to claim innocence, but CWW told him things afterwards, then why did MS continue to protect CWW? Why would an innocent man protect the main who brutally murdered his beloved wife and theoretically destroyed his world? An innocent man would NEVER protect him even if it was his best friend, especially after the innocent man himself was arrested for the murder.

    WSers have said that MS might be trying to use AW as leverage against CWW. That bullet in the document seems to support that. It just sounds desperate to me. If it's true, it points towards MS' guilt. If it's true, he's trying to punish CWW through AW, but it won't work because CWW has already given sworn statements. If it's false, it still doesn't change anything regarding the information CWW has already given LE.

    American Justice on right now: Michael Peterson murderer of two women (only my opinion, of course)
    ...Detective Owens said the driver is not a suspect in the case...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FelicityLemon View Post
    Thank you for this, Greater Than

    Number 18:
    The fact that CWW is required to and agrees to take a polygraph exam is brilliant (bad for MS). Assuming CWW told the truth in his statement and will continue to tell the truth during testimony against MS, that will take take care of any doubts the MS is trying to bring up to deflect attention away from himself.

    How would MS know about any omissions CWW may have made in his statement? How could MS explain that he knew such things if he's innocent and has been saying all along that CWW would never have murdered his wife?

    Was the burner phone AW allegedly used during the three-day period mentioned in any of CWW's statements or interviews - do we know? Otherwise, 1) it's another lie by MS, 2) if true, but not in any CWW statement, then how did MS know? That would imply that MS had knowledge of CWW's involvement either before (MS hired him) or afterwards. If MS continues to claim innocence, but CWW told him things afterwards, then why did MS continue to protect CWW? Why would an innocent man protect the main who brutally murdered his beloved wife and theoretically destroyed his world? An innocent man would NEVER protect him even if it was his best friend, especially after the innocent man himself was arrested for the murder.

    WSers have said that MS might be trying to use AW as leverage against CWW. That bullet in the document seems to support that. It just sounds desperate to me. If it's true, it points towards MS' guilt. If it's true, he's trying to punish CWW through AW, but it won't work because CWW has already given sworn statements. If it's false, it still doesn't change anything regarding the information CWW has already given LE.

    American Justice on right now: Michael Peterson murderer of two women (only my opinion, of course)
    Mark is stupid. He just wants to waste time for his own pleasure. There were burner phones according to the discovery JR's attorney requested. Im.also convinced they got a lot of money according to their standards. US bank was listed on the discovery as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frigga View Post
    If Angela didn't know (I don't think she "knew") what was going down in Florida then I'll give her the benefit of the doubt but once she did KNOW what went down in Florida I lose any sympathy for her. A young mother and wife was murdered.

    If you are somehow a witness then you can and will be protected by LE, to keep you safe. This man was being looked at in not one but TWO murders. Sheesh.

    That ain't no coinkiedink!
    It's not true that you can and will be protected by LE for providing what you know (although, you should, regardless). I know this from experience.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FelicityLemon View Post
    Just Is:

    YES one about the gun! Such a denial that could be (and was) contradicted by someone else's interview comment about AW having CWW remove the gun from the home because she was scared she would hurt herself? The way Det. Lebid was questioning her about it should have been a clue to her that he already knew about a gun. Because the way she repeatedly denied having a gun, I wonder if she thought TS had been shot to death or was it because her husband being a felon he wasn't allowed to have a gun?
    I believe Angela didn't know he had the gun. She threatened herself, he told her he removed the fun. He easily could have kept it hidden in an unknown place on the property. Just a thought!


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    Wonder if AW will be charged with anything? Or if she will testify against MS? Doubt she'll need to testify for or against CW since he plead guilty, and she's married to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Hope4 View Post
    Wonder if AW will be charged with anything? Or if she will testify against MS? Doubt she'll need to testify for or against CW since he plead guilty, and she's married to him.
    She would be a terrible witness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FelicityLemon View Post
    YES one about the gun! Such a denial that could be (and was) contradicted by someone else's interview comment about AW having CWW remove the gun from the home because she was scared she would hurt herself? The way Det. Lebid was questioning her about it should have been a clue to her that he already knew about a gun. Because the way she repeatedly denied having a gun, I wonder if she thought TS had been shot to death or was it because her husband being a felon he wasn't allowed to have a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by shutterrrbug View Post
    I believe Angela didn't know he had the gun. She threatened herself, he told her he removed the fun. He easily could have kept it hidden in an unknown place on the property. Just a thought!


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    IMO there never was a gun. One was never found to my knowledge during the search, and with CWW being a felon, wouldn't having a gun be another charge added on as well? I think AW is just a whiny drama queen and exaggerated/LIED to her mother and CTW about how distraught she was that hubs got to take a "vacation" and made her stay home and work. How many 43 yr. old women (44 now) would tell mommy "that's not fair"?
    She was just so upset he was leaving her for the weekend that
    he had to hide the gun from her...PA- lease
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulas88 View Post
    Since AW was using CWW' phone (she also called CWW' Son, to tell him CWW was ill and couldn't watch the children, IIRC) wouldn't she have seen the text message from JR at 6:43 am, asking CWW when he's going to pick him up, with CWW' reply of 7:30 am?
    Good catch Paula! Since we are not privy to incoming calls or texts to CWW, (with the exception of Mark's text "no need to call me") only outgoing from HIS phone makes me think about a couple of possibilities.

    I'm wondering if AW heard a text beep/sound made to CWW's phone from his son M. (I didn't feel comfortable using his full initial's, poor kid) I'm thinking he might have sent a text to his new found Dad reminding him about watching his kids that Sunday (June 28) afternoon/evening? I can't seem to find the "time" that AW called M to tell him CWW was "not feeling well," and couldn't babysit, only that it was a 3 minute and 32 second conversation on June 28.

    M was CWW's son, so I can understand her not knowing his phone number and using CWW's phone for that. (possibly calling him right back?) AW could have then read back through his texts as Paula has suggested and seen the message from JR at 6:43 am Saturday morning, asking CWW when he's going to pick him up. Then her loving husband has-been texting JR back "7:30 am." That could have made her suspicious, and she seemed SO anxious/desperate to talk to him.
    We know that AW used CWW's phone to call JR's phone at 3:06pm, but we don't know if that phone call was answered, or how long the conversation was IF they spoke to one another.

    I am still on the fence about Angie knowing beforehand that JR went to FL with CWW. Mainly because of how upset she was about CWW leaving her and him "accidently" forgetting his phone (that he lived on) and how she would have no way to talk to him while he was gone. I feel if she knew JR's was with CWW, she would have called JR sooner than Sunday afternoon.

    * BUT on the other hand, if CWW was taking JR with him on the sly, I would think he would have deleted that last text conversation between him and JR... Especially since he knew he was not going to take his cell phone with him. Wives and girlfriends are generally nosey, and AW sounds very needy and insecure.
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