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    CT - New Britain, WhtMale UP14397, 30-40, winter-ish clothes, Aug'83

    NamUs: https://identifyus.org/en/cases/14397

    Case #: H83-1796
    Date found: August 21, 1983
    Location: 126 High Street, New Britain, CT (Hartford Co.)
    Estimated age: 30-40
    Race: White
    Sex: Male
    Height: 68 inches
    Body conditions: Not recognizable - near complete or complete skeleton
    Probable year of death: 1983 to 1983
    Estimated postmortem interval: 3 weeks

    Circumstances:

    Found in an abandoned building

    Clothing:

    Black/brown pants, maroon/red thermal pants, cotton boxers, Purple long sleeved front zipper close neck sweater, long sleeved thermal shirts

    DNA: Sample submitted - tests not complete

    No recon, surprisingly. Also, no rule outs?

    Why was he wearing such warm clothes (thermals, layers, sweaters) if he supposedly died late July/very early August? That's when the northeast gets really hot... If he died July 30th, the high was 91 and the low was 73. (According to https://www.wunderground.com/history...ic=&reqdb.wmo= ) I wouldn't wear thermals in that weather.

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    It's possible he died during withdrawals from heroin. Heroin withdrawal can make you cold/clammy and get cold sweats. Maybe he bundled up to stay warm although it was hot outside.

    I don't know any homeless people who wear all their clothes at once during summer. They carry them in a duffel bag or even a plastic bag.

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    I think that's really plausible, Jess!!!

    Also, got an email last night saying his DNA is now Sample submitted - tests complete. Whoo!

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    Donald Gatti
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/3287/84/
    Last seen November 1982
    Missing from New Britain
    Height: 70 inches
    Age: 52 (outside of estimated range)
    Circumstances: "Unknown, Donald has a gambling problem"

    If he was last seen in November and died soon after, that explains the winter clothes the body was found in.

    I wonder what happened to his car.
    Last edited by Dionysia; 08-02-2016 at 10:43 AM.

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    Although the clothes are a bit warm for summer, they're not really warm enough for winter in Connecticut, either. But probably aboutright for daytime in average November or March.

    If he was homeless and sleeping in the building, he might have put on the extra layer in place of a blanket. Nights in New England can get chilly even in summer.


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    I submitted Donald. The NAMUS contact said she'd bring it to the attention of LE to do a DNA comparison with the UID.

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    This case was reassigned to me. I'll be looking into the connection between the unknown body located on High Street and Donald Gatti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessr927 View Post
    It's possible he died during withdrawals from heroin. Heroin withdrawal can make you cold/clammy and get cold sweats. Maybe he bundled up to stay warm although it was hot outside.

    I don't know any homeless people who wear all their clothes at once during summer. They carry them in a duffel bag or even a plastic bag.
    It's definitely possible, although my first thought was schizophrenia. I had a schizophrenic neighbour who would always wear his winter clothes during summer even though it was very hot outside.
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    Today, I met with Donald's son who provided a DNA sample which will be submitted to the state lab for further analysis. We are still waiting for information from the 126 High Street case to see if there are any other similarities. Unfortunately, the case is so old and the records room has been moved so many times we have not been able to locate the file yet. The ME who responded to that incident is currently on vacation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiely400 View Post
    Today, I met with Donald's son who provided a DNA sample which will be submitted to the state lab for further analysis. We are still waiting for information from the 126 High Street case to see if there are any other similarities. Unfortunately, the case is so old and the records room has been moved so many times we have not been able to locate the file yet. The ME who responded to that incident is currently on vacation.
    Great to have you and your insight here on the forum Kiely400, welcome.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiely400 View Post
    Today, I met with Donald's son who provided a DNA sample which will be submitted to the state lab for further analysis. We are still waiting for information from the 126 High Street case to see if there are any other similarities. Unfortunately, the case is so old and the records room has been moved so many times we have not been able to locate the file yet. The ME who responded to that incident is currently on vacation.
    Thank you for the update!!

    If you find it, is there any hope of getting a facial reconstruction done? I feel like that would really aid identification! Also, are dental records going to be put into the system?

    ETA: Today was also the anniversary of him being found! (It is 8/21/17 still in my time zone, so the time zone he was found in). Now that it has been 34 years, I really wish that there were some developments at all. Next year, he will hopefully be identified.
    Last edited by rats; 08-21-2017 at 11:50 PM.

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    I wouldn't get the hopes up on the facial reconstruction at this point and as for his dental records, I couldn't locate anything on file for him. Best bet right now seems to be this DNA comparison between the High Street body and Gatti. The lab will run the DNA from the son through the system afterwards to see if there is any other hits. I'll keep you updated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiely400 View Post
    I wouldn't get the hopes up on the facial reconstruction at this point and as for his dental records, I couldn't locate anything on file for him. Best bet right now seems to be this DNA comparison between the High Street body and Gatti. The lab will run the DNA from the son through the system afterwards to see if there is any other hits. I'll keep you updated.
    Thank you!!! We appreciate it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiely400 View Post
    I wouldn't get the hopes up on the facial reconstruction at this point and as for his dental records, I couldn't locate anything on file for him. Best bet right now seems to be this DNA comparison between the High Street body and Gatti. The lab will run the DNA from the son through the system afterwards to see if there is any other hits. I'll keep you updated.
    Very good to have you "on board"....appreciating your open communication...making working together possible.
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    No shoes found?....hmmmm...body dumped?....shoes stolen? Not possessed shoes?
    Last edited by Bit of hope; 08-24-2017 at 12:55 PM.
    Still believe in the human race.....

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