TX: HELOTES Baby found dead in hot car parked at Texas Walmart

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August 12, 2016
8:51 PM EDT

Baby found dead in hot car parked at Texas Walmart


A 7-month-old baby boy was found dead in a hot car at a Walmart in Helotes, Texas, according to the Helotes Police Department, CBS affiliate KENS reported.

The baby's father is an employee at the Walmart, and apparently left the infant in the vehicle when he arrived to work around 6:15 a.m., HPD Capt. Anthony Burges said.

KENS reported that the baby was supposed to be taken to daycare, but the employee told police he forgot.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/baby-fo...-walmart/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=27627204

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**Come on people, leave a toy in the front seat, put your cell phone in the BACK seat, OMG just heartbreaking! jmo
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Another "Oh gee, I forgot my baby was in the car" death. I really am disgusted by these stories and how much agony this poor baby went through. Disgusting.
 
Oh no...its been so, so terribly hot...poor sweet little one.
 
Dang. I am trying to understand how this happens. I was a nanny for several years, but I don't have children of my own. Maybe I'm a bit hyper vigilant about safety since the kids weren't mine? I'm just trying to understand how this could occur.
I do have a dear friend who was attending church for the first time after giving birth to her 3rd child. He was a tiny infant. She forgot him in the car for the entire church service (90 minutes or so). It was a cool, rainy day. He's now a teenager. I didn't judge her because I know her so well, but I'm genuinely confused.
 
I think one of the main reasons this keeps happening is it is men that are in the care of the child and the mothers are the usual caregivers.It is a responsibility they are not used to having. I posted in the trial thread and pointed out about some men and being easily distracted even after 5 min.
 
I think one of the main reasons this keeps happening is it is men that are in the care of the child and the mothers are the usual caregivers.It is a responsibility they are not used to having. I posted in the trial thread and pointed out about some men and being easily distracted even after 5 min.

In this particular case man left his child, but women have left children in cars as well.
 
In this particular case man left his child, but women have left children in cars as well.

Yes,of course but there seems to be a rise in young men doing this.
 
August 12, 2016
8:51 PM EDT

Baby found dead in hot car parked at Texas Walmart


A 7-month-old baby boy was found dead in a hot car at a Walmart in Helotes, Texas, according to the Helotes Police Department, CBS affiliate KENS reported.

The baby's father is an employee at the Walmart, and apparently left the infant in the vehicle when he arrived to work around 6:15 a.m., HPD Capt. Anthony Burges said.

KENS reported that the baby was supposed to be taken to daycare, but the employee told police he forgot.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/baby-fo...-walmart/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=27627204

_________________________

**Come on people, leave a toy in the front seat, put your cell phone in the BACK seat, OMG just heartbreaking! jmo
:moo:

Not again another little angel lost. There must be a way to help prevent these incidents.
 
Not again another little angel lost. There must be a way to help prevent these incidents.

There have been great suggestions from others in other threads of how to prevent this from happening. I think what needs to happen is a public service announcement each year before the weather gets hot and keep running the ad many times through the summer.

There are some mistakes that people just cannot ever make. EVER.

When going through safety courses you learn of things that you just cannot ever do. This is one of them. You just cannot ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever (we get the point) let this happen.

It is an unpardonable error that results in death and a lifetime of remorse.

Some of the suggestions I remember from other threads was to put something like your purse or wallet (for men) near the child.

Have to put something near them that you always take out before you exit the car. Most of us have that "thing" and usually its a cell phone these days.
 
I like the idea about public service announcements. Between the umpteen million pharmaceutical ads, erectile disfunction ads, and ky jelly ads, I think some room can be made for public service announcements about leaving children in hot cars.

Recently I saw a picture sign about remembering your children at the entrance of a store and it might have been our local walmart. Actually, there is a photo of the sign at the attached link.
http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/29978234/david-carroll-dont-leave-children-in-hot-cars

These signs should be everywhere and we should get as used to seeing them as we see restroom signs, we ID under 30 signs, heck even stop signs.
 
I think one of the main reasons this keeps happening is it is men that are in the care of the child and the mothers are the usual caregivers.It is a responsibility they are not used to having. I posted in the trial thread and pointed out about some men and being easily distracted even after 5 min.

One thing that seems to be consistent with the "genuine" accidents is that responsibility for the "forgotten child" was a break in routine. Maybe not "just" a man-thing. The opposite spouse ends up taking a child to daycare, and forgets them. A different caregiver picks up a child, child falls asleep, caregiver forgets. We can make a difference educating the ones with the break in routine and distraction issues. They have a conscience, at least. Most are good citizens and law abiding.

However, IMO, we can never make a difference with stupid, irresponsible caregivers, who never should have been parents or caregivers in the first place, IMO. They are beyond help other than storing them away in prison, IMO. Caregiver intentionally gets drunk, leaves or forgets child in car. Mother going to a job interview (Shanesha Taylor- AZ) intentionally leaves babies in car, rather than rescheduling or getting a sitter. Mother goes to strip club job, leaves kid in car. Parent goes shopping, leaves kid in car. Parent goes to casino, leaves kid in car. Etc. Those are not accidents-- those situations are "on purpose." I wish we could prevent these adults from breeding in the first place.
 
Our Walmart actually has a sign on the door that says to check to make sure you didn't leave your child in the car. It's shocking to me that we need something like this.
 
Our Walmart actually has a sign on the door that says to check to make sure you didn't leave your child in the car. It's shocking to me that we need something like this.
Really? Wow. I think it's great that they have the sign, but I agree. Like I said in my first post up thread, I just don't understand. Yes, I suppose it makes sense that a change in routine could throw one off. I think that's what happened with my friend. But I still just can't imagine forgetting that I have a CHILD in the car! I don't mean to sound judgemental. I know that there are genuine accidents, but I don't get it. When I'm driving with kids, I'm constantly aware of every little thing I do, and those around me. I guess I just feel like whenever you have your child in your care, you should always be extra cautious.
 
Father worked his full shift, nine hours which would have included an hour for lunch, without ever giving a thought to Baby? This in itself is horrible!

How many times during this work day did he and the child's mother text each other? Did she not bring up the subject of the Baby?
 
Father worked his full shift, nine hours which would have included an hour for lunch, without ever giving a thought to Baby? This in itself is horrible!

How many times during this work day did he and the child's mother text each other? Did she not bring up the subject of the Baby?
Right. How can this be possible?
 
Thinking about this problem of leaving baby in the car, the one thing that comes to mind is to put an alarm on the car seat.

I am not an engineer, but one could certainly design a system. If the baby is in the car seat and the straps are buckled, an alarm goes off to remind you there is a baby in his seat. Similar to the car telling us to put our seatbelt on. The alarm keeps beeping for so many seconds after the door is shut, just like the lights stay on. Or, the car won't lock if a baby is left in his car seat.

I believe the car seat manufactures and car companies are going to need to get together to find a solution to this problem. Yes, the price of both will go up. There are always those few people that ruin a good thing and everybody pays.

My opinions only.
 
Right. How can this be possible?

I assume you are asking about the nine hour shift?

One of two things. He worked an 8 hour shift, and had one hour for lunch which he was not paid for.

Or, to be paid for a nine hour shift, he worked nine hours not including the time he had off for lunch.

It could be that different parts of the country express work shifts differently. In my area, if you said "he worked a nine hour shift", it would mean he worked nine hours not including lunch time.

Yes, it is legal to work more than an eight hour day. Different companies count it in different ways, particularly if you are a part-time worker. Not bad mouthing WM, however, they are known to be a bit diverse in their scheduling and paying of employees. Check it out on Google. In some states, working over eight hours means overtime for any additional hours that day. While in other states or companies, they are slippery in the way they get out of.paying overtime.

If that doesn't answer your question, please let me know.
 
I assume you are asking about the nine hour shift?

One of two things. He worked an 8 hour shift, and had one hour for lunch which he was not paid for.

Or, to be paid for a nine hour shift, he worked nine hours not including the time he had off for lunch.

It could be that different parts of the country express work shifts differently. In my area, if you said "he worked a nine hour shift", it would mean he worked nine hours not including lunch time.

Yes, it is legal to work more than an eight hour day. Different companies count it in different ways, particularly if you are a part-time worker. Not bad mouthing WM, however, they are known to be a bit diverse in their scheduling and paying of employees. Check it out on Google. In some states, working over eight hours means overtime for any additional hours that day. While in other states or companies, they are slippery in the way they get out of.paying overtime.

If that doesn't answer your question, please let me know.
Hahaha. No, I understand that. I'm just baffled that he didn't think about his child for NINE hours. And if he did, he somehow didn't realize that he strapped the baby into his vehicle that morning. Every time I hear these stories, I just feel sick and confused.

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