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    PA - Elaine Latshaw, 77, dies of extreme neglect, Mahanoy City, 14 Aug 2015 *Arrests*

    "Elder Abuse, or Respecting Last Wishes?"* - Schuylkill County - 14 Aug 2015

    Deceased:

    Elaine Latshaw :: Female / 77 Years Old

    *http://wnep.com/2016/08/19/elder-abu...g-last-wishes/:

    GRAPHIC Text

    Lower Court DocketS:

    Co-Defendant: Dorothy Robinson :: White / Female / 53 Years Old

    https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Docket...R-0000299-2016
    &
    https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Docket...R-0000299-2016


    Co-Defendant: John F. Latshaw Jr. :: White / Male / 57 Years Old

    https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Docket...R-0000298-2016
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    https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Docket...R-0000298-2016


    May Elaine Rest In Peace.

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    I understand this. My grandfather died last February leaving my grandmother who has severe dementia. They were in a nursing home together and he died in bed next to her but she is just done. She won't eat or drink or use the bathroom she won't get out of bed she tried to hurt herself, etc. She says she wants to be with him. Can't remember that her parents or sister are dead, can't remember our names, doesn't know how old she is but she damn well knows her husband of 70 years is dead and she wants to die too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Richrd View Post
    "Elder Abuse, or Respecting Last Wishes?"* - Schuylkill County - 14 Aug 2015

    Deceased:

    Elaine Latshaw :: Female / 77 Years Old

    *http://wnep.com/2016/08/19/elder-abu...g-last-wishes/:

    GRAPHIC Text

    Lower Court DocketS:

    Co-Defendant: Dorothy Robinson :: White / Female / 53 Years Old

    https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Docket...R-0000299-2016
    &
    https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Docket...R-0000299-2016


    Co-Defendant: John F. Latshaw Jr. :: White / Male / 57 Years Old

    https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Docket...R-0000298-2016
    &
    https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Docket...R-0000298-2016


    May Elaine Rest In Peace.
    Richard, if you would give some sort of a quote that I could sink my teeth into, I'd be a lot more inclined to read and reply. I know some of the stuff you post is quite interesting, but the way it's presented leaves me absolutely cold. Give us a bit of info from the links, please. TIA
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    Click on the wnep article.


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    From one of the linked articles:

    "MAHANOY CITY -- A couple is charged with murder after investigators say they neglected a 77-year-old woman to death. They were supposed to be caring for the woman.

    Authorities in Schuylkill County say that Elaine Latshaw, 77, was left alone in a room to die in a Mahanoy City home last August. One year later, serious charges are filed against her son and his girlfriend.

    Dorothy Robinson, 53, and her boyfriend John Latshaw Jr., 57, of Mahanoy City say they’re not to blame for Elaine Latshaw's death. They say the woman wanted to die."


    I too can understand the son's side of this. Many of us had a parent who was extremely controlling of others throughout their life and who became much, much worse when old age set in. When any dementia sets in it becomes even worse.

    Some parents "fire" their child as their power of attorney for health care and chose instead choose someone else whom they can more easily manipulate.

    This woman had already been in a nursing home situation. What if the patient says "I want out of here. I want to go back home and be left alone to die so I can be with my husband." Are we not to allow this? Are we to arrest the child who allows this to happen?

    My late husband died at home of cancer. Among the last words he spoke were "No hospital. No hospital."

    And yes, patients who are bedridden and not repositioned regularly will develop bedsores. Patients with extremely poor circulation will often develop gangrene. This is just what happens. And people who die often have a release of urine and fecal matter upon death.

    We do not allow euthanasia. Sometimes sick older people will commit suicide, if they have the means. Other times they will just stop eating and drinking.

    Are their decisions not to be respected? Are their children to be arrested because that was their decision?

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    May Tssiemer's Grandmother Have a Peaceful Passing

    Paraphrasing Tssiemer:

    My Grandmother has severe dementia.

    She won't eat or drink, and tried to hurt herself, etc.

    She knows her husband of 70 years is dead, and she wants to die too.



    A similar situation with my late Aunt at Age 99;

    Fortunately, her visiting loved ones understood her wishes of

    No Hydration, or Food, etc.

    Plus, living in an Extended Care Facility, everything was Well Documented.


    We are Thinking of Your Grandmother,
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    Additional, also-Graphic Information

    "Elder Abuse, or Respecting Last Wishes?"* - Schuylkill County - 14 Aug 2015

    Deceased:

    Fannie Elaine (Pennell) Latshaw :: Female / 77 Years Old

    Republic Herald:
    http://republicanherald.com/news/cou...lect-1.2080827:

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    Cause of Death :: "Aspiration Pneumonia, ...Multiple Pressure Ulcerations, Gangrene, Malnutrition..."

    Manner of Death :: Homicide


    *WNEP-TV Headline:
    "Elder Abuse, or Respecting Last Wishes?"
    *http://wnep.com/2016/08/19/elder-abu...g-last-wishes/:

    Paraphrasing Co-Defendant:

    They maintain they tried to help, but Elaine refused,
    wanting only to be reunited with Her Husband, John Sr., who died on 5/1/2012.

    Lower Court DocketS:


    Co-Defendant: Dorothy Robinson :: White / Female / 53 Years Old

    https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Docket...R-0000299-2016
    &
    https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Docket...R-0000299-2016


    Co-Defendant: John F. Latshaw Jr. :: White / Male / 57 Years Old

    https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Docket...R-0000298-2016
    &
    https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Docket...R-0000298-2016


    May Fannie Elaine Rest In Peace.
    Last edited by Richrd; 08-20-2016 at 03:14 PM.

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    That's just too much for me.

    My family is HUGE on refusing life support and having DNRs. Just my opinion, but that really does look like a horrendous situation.

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    You can't make them get help or receive it, but you have to document it or have a Dr or nurse come in and see the conditions, to keep your butt out of jail. My mom was living badly, but we couldn't get her out of her house, called in services, but they said, she is of sound mind, she is allowed to live the way she wants. Short version, she fell, we got her into a nursing home 3 yrs ago, her 93rd birthday is today. She has a DNR and no water or food, if she falls ill. So we do what we can, but she is at least fed, clean and looked after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richrd View Post
    Paraphrasing Tssiemer:

    My Grandmother has severe dementia.

    She won't eat or drink, and tried to hurt herself, etc.

    She knows her husband of 70 years is dead, and she wants to die too.



    A similar situation with my late Aunt at Age 99;

    Fortunately, her visiting loved ones understood her wishes of

    No Hydration, or Food, etc.

    Plus, living in an Extended Care Facility, everything was Well Documented.


    We are Thinking of Your Grandmother,
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    her Many Remaining Loved Ones.

    I love reading your posts. Keep it up. I'm torn on this one. I took care of the elderly for years. But, there is NO way I could EVER let an elderly person lay in that filth. My motto was, they gave us our yesterdays, we can give them our tomorrows. This is heart breaking and gut wrenching.
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    I believe in a right to die idk. My grandmother is just trapped in her mind right now. My grandfather was mentally sharp and active and such until the week before he died. He was 93 and she turns 94 next month. Their birthdays are 3 days apart.


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    Elder abuse. No one leaves a sick, elderly, helpless, person full of bed sores and bone deep gangrene to starve to death in a bed filthy with human waste out of a sense of dignity and respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeaTime View Post
    Elder abuse. No one leaves a sick, elderly, helpless, person full of bed sores and bone deep gangrene to starve to death in a bed filthy with human waste out of a sense of dignity and respect.
    I agree TeaTime, if they put her into a care facility they would bathe her and keep her clean and hygienic, keep her bed clean, and tend to any wounds or anything that needed tending to.
    They would also attempt to feed her, if she refused to eat, they cannot force food into anyone's mouth. Whether or not she wanted to eat is entirely her choice.
    Clearly this unfortunate lady suffered some sort of mental break when her husband passed away, (she was sleeping next to him). After this tragic event she needed to be cared for, and from what I have read there was no-one capable of understanding this, her situation, or her needs. Her situation became a case of horrific elder abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysShocked View Post
    From one of the linked articles:

    I too can understand the son's side of this. Many of us had a parent who was extremely controlling of others throughout their life and who became much, much worse when old age set in. When any dementia sets in it becomes even worse.

    Some parents "fire" their child as their power of attorney for health care and chose instead choose someone else whom they can more easily manipulate.

    This woman had already been in a nursing home situation. What if the patient says "I want out of here. I want to go back home and be left alone to die so I can be with my husband."
    Are their decisions not to be respected? Are their children to be arrested because that was their decision?
    After this lady's husband died she should have been left in the care facility, she obviously suffered some sort of trauma (mental break).
    She may have been domineering, but this couple were in their mid 50s , they were not 'downtrodden' dominated children. They were capable of making their own decisions. If she became too difficult to cope with, they had the option of putting her back into the care facility.

    The way this lady was treated was not a matter of respecting her decisions, she had lost the ability of making those decisions, someone needed to bathe her and take care of her personal needs - the very basics of human life.
    Last edited by Meryl12; 08-21-2016 at 12:48 AM. Reason: Mis-spelt word.

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    I guess they had no problem receiving her SS checks for $1200 each month. How convenient. In the WNEP article the son states they "tried to help her." Really? How? What kind of son can cash in his mother's SS checks while leaving her to essential rot to death? She would have been in a horrific amount of pain. One wouldn't have had to be a health care professional to have seen that months before she died. Did they ever contact her doctor? A doctor? A nurse? An ambulance? Some kind of health care agency to at least assess her and ensure that she wasn't suffering? Even if one wishes to die and wishes to no longer eat or drink, there is absolutely no need for someone to slowly die suffering from bed infected, gangrenous bedsores, lying in their own waste and blood. With dying should come dignity. This woman did not die with dignity. For all we know they stuffed her in that room, chose to ignore her all the while they enjoyed her $1200 SS checks. May they rot like she did.

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