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    Day 3 SBTC - The 12 Days of JonBenet

    Each day leading up to the CBS docu-series starting on Sunday, September 18th we are discussing different pieces of evidence in the JBR case.

    Granted SBTC is not really evidence but it has been something that has driven lead detectives to beer can collecting housewives nuts trying to figure out what it stands for.

    We have threads going back years on this subject. However, maybe with the passing of time, something new may have popped up.

    SBTC was at the end of the ransom note.

    I did a quick Google search on SBTC and here is the first thing that popped up: http://sbtexas.com/

    The Southern Baptists of Texas Convention. SBTC is what they use.

    Did I just solve the SBTC clue? I highly doubt it but has this been suggested before?

    Come on, give it your best shot. We have thousands coming to read what you are saying. Maybe one of you will actually crack this code. If there is a code to crack that is. Maybe it's random letters just flat out made up out of thin air.

    Let's see what you think SBTC stands for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricia View Post
    Each day leading up to the CBS docu-series starting on Sunday, September 18th we are discussing different pieces of evidence in the JBR case.

    Granted SBTC is not really evidence but it has been something that has driven lead detectives to beer can collecting housewives nuts trying to figure out what it stands for.

    We have threads going back years on this subject. However, maybe with the passing of time, something new may have popped up.

    SBTC was at the end of the ransom note.

    I did a quick Google search on SBTC and here is the first thing that popped up: http://sbtexas.com/

    The Southern Baptists of Texas Convention. SBTC is what they use.

    Did I just solve the SBTC clue? I highly doubt it but has this been suggested before?

    Come on, give it your best shot. We have thousands coming to read what you are saying. Maybe one of you will actually crack this code. If there is a code to crack that is. Maybe it's random letters just flat out made up out of thin air.

    Let's see what you think SBTC stands for.

    Tricia
    Were the Ramseys Southern Baptists? Or Episcopalians? I can't remember.

    For myself, I think it meant "She Belongs to Christ."

    Nowadays, it seems to stand for "Some Believe The Crap."

    I'm sorry, I could not stop myself!
    I'm as mad as HELL and I'm NOT gonna take it anymore!.

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    Victory! She's Behind The Curtain

    JR Interview 6/98
    5 So after that first shock of, she's gone. I was
    6 like, okay, what are we going to do. Let's get her
    7 back. And so as the morning wore on that was what
    8 was driving me. So I was trying to figure out
    9 (INAUDIBLE) watching the house. What are we going
    10 to do and all those kind of thoughts. And is she
    11 in the closet or in the refrigerator or behind the
    12 curtain.

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    Cranberry, I read that quote over and over (sinus headache on the way and my focus going.) When I finally caught-on, that was actually funny. Thank you. I haven't heard that one before.

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    Small Business Technology Coalition? Or Council?

    http://www.acronymfinder.com/SBTC.html

    I wonder if it was a "business term" that was chosen at ransom to seem credible. Though I think whoever wrote that note has no concept of the term "credible" lol.

    I think SBTC has to be looked at in conjuction with the Victory.

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    Another thought I had was a bit crazy. And I felt a bit icky googling it. But what about some satanic/masonic phrases/acronyms? I have my theories about the Ramsays, their friends, their families and their religiosity. The theories involve incest. And I wonder if "churches" or "groups" like that take "Christian" terms and use them in their own rituals?


    I sound completely insane.

    Crucifix symbology, for example, is used by satanists. Upside down crosses. Pentagrams are inverted to change their meaning. Chalices and athames and other pagan items get re-purposed to use in more nefarious rituals. Satan Be True Christ?

    I'm not the only one who thinks this case involves this crap, am I?

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    I've always thought that S.B.T.C in conjunction with "Victory" is "Saved By The Cross," but the anagram from the Psalms scripture mentioned in Steve Thomas's book, iirc, of the Bible found in the Ramsey home suggests the initials were randomly chosen with purpose. John's Bible was open to Psalms 35, 36. Here's a related discussion link:

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...carefully-SBTC

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    I have NO idea what it could mean.But maybe someone could ask JR cause he is the one excited about these little, funny clues.His words exactly.

    If the note was meant for police, it was put there just to mess with their heads.And it worked.
    If the note was meant for the other parent it could be a coded warning or something.

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    SBTC seems to relate to the Foreign Faction which might be religious BTW, way back then that looked weird, not today though. So for me I go along with BOESP's suggestion: Saved By The Cross.

    SBTC is a sign off phrase, its formal stuff and in a RN to boot, that for me is PR. Speculating: if that Tiara is for real then there was a prior staging probably with JonBenet dressed in her Pink Barbie Nightgown, and her Barbie Doll present, she might even have been posed, hence the SBTC sign off?

    JR possibly vetoed the Pageant Staging, and replaced it with long johns and the white gap top, along with the size-12's?

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    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...igators-926624

    However, as The Case Of: JonBenet Ramsey executive producer Tom Forman explains in The Hollywood Reporter's exclusive video above: "The investigative team felt like there was a missing piece the first time around, that there was one expert they should have had back in 1996 they just didn't have" — until now.

    ===

    A victimologist, as represented on the team by former New Scotland Yard criminal behavioral analyst Laura Richards, looks at the victims and attempts to figure out how they lived in order to find new clues into how they died, and, potentially, who killed them.

    "It's such a confusing crime scene with so many mixed motives and things that were done to her," Richards says in the video. "It's why it never made sense."

    With so many different docuseries attempting to reexamine the JonBenet case (A+E, HLN, NBC's Dateline and Investigation Discovery also have projects), the pressure is on for The Case Of's team to find new clues and new answers about who killed Ramsey.
    Last edited by madeleine; 09-09-2016 at 05:53 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDave View Post
    Were the Ramseys Southern Baptists? Or Episcopalians? I can't remember.

    For myself, I think it meant "She Belongs to Christ."

    Nowadays, it seems to stand for "Some Believe The Crap."

    I'm sorry, I could not stop myself!
    In Atlanta they were members of Peachtree Presbyterian Church. I have forgotten what church they were associated with in Boulder.

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    We know how it ended, but if Patsy wrote the ransom note maybe SBTC at the time meant, "Still Beat The Cancer-Victory!" Like she felt she had some form of victory even with the tragedy of losing her daughter. Just a thought.

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    looks like a freaking smiley face if you turn it upside down

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    "SBTC" means nothing, and was simply pulled out of thin air by someone who wanted to give an air of mystery to a mythical intruder belonging to a "small foreign faction."

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    I always took it to have religious meaning because of PR's fervent interest in religion and spirituality.

    Victory! as in victory over sin, victory in the lord, etc. SBTC - saved by the cross. Very common terms in Christianity. We are all saved from our sins by Jesus's death on the cross, and our faith allows us to achieve victory over our sinful deeds. Even though the Ramseys sinned, PR believed they could be saved from that and forgiven by their faith and devotion to God. Only God can judge us - no need to have the judicial system judge their deeds if they confess their sins and seek forgiveness from the savior.

    Also interesting, IMO, is that JBR is wearing her gold cross when her body is found. Intentionally placed?

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