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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener1850 View Post
    Wow! I'm so sorry for the families of the missing women as it looks like neither will get closure/answers. And the woman held against her will was not reported missing? If I'm understanding this right, from the press conference it sounds like Stacy Stanley's family found this man holding a woman against her will and it wasn't even Stacy? Or was that a different man he said they "rattled his cage"? This case is so complicated!
    Here's my understanding of the PR:

    SS' s family was making a thorough search of the area.

    Grate happened to be holding a woman hostage in a house with the bodies of two deceased women.

    Because SS' s family was snooping around, Grate got "rattled" and made a mistake, which allowed the woman to somehow make the 911 call.

    The surviving woman is not Stacy nor the other missing woman.

    No word on if they are among the two dead women found in Ashland.

    Neither is the decedant found in Madison Twp.
    Last edited by bessie; 09-13-2016 at 10:00 PM. Reason: Added word
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    NewsChannel 5 (@WEWS): https://twitter.com/WEWS?s=09

    Shawn Michael Grate named as suspect in Ashland County abduction, murders: https://t.co/ENfSx7uvNZ https://t.co/QUPZ4PuWWm

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    Cassie Nist (@cassienist): https://twitter.com/cassienist?s=09

    The body located in Mansfield is too old to be either women Elizabeth & Stacey. No word on ages of 2 in Ashland https://t.co/aHdxdb2goD

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    Quote Originally Posted by bessie View Post
    Here's my understanding of the PR:

    SS' s family was making a thorough search of the area.

    Grate happened to be holding a woman hostage with two deceased women's bodies.

    Because SS' s family was snooping around, Grate got "rattled" and made a mistake, which allowed the woman to somehow make the 911 call.

    The woman is not Stacy nor the other missing woman.

    No word on if they are among the two dead women found in Ashland.

    Neither is the decedant found in Madison Twp.
    I think that is exactly right. I missed the part about one of the 2 bodies could still be Stacy though. This is all so crazy!

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    When they say the bodies are too old to be Stacy or Elizabeth, I am taking that to mean that the decomposition is too far advanced for recent missing persons, and not that they have grey hair or similar? Either way it seems a bold statement in these early stages so maybe the remains are skeletal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eucalyptuz View Post
    When they say the bodies are too old to be Stacy or Elizabeth, I am taking that to mean that the decomposition is too far advanced for recent missing persons, and not that they have grey hair or similar? Either way it seems a bold statement in these early stages so maybe the remains are skeletal?
    I'm taking it to mean decomp/skeletal.

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    June 21, 2016

    Foot chase ends with search in Madison Twp.

    http://www.wmfd.com/news/single.asp?story=69011

    June 20, 2016

    Suspect still missing after foot chase

    Shawn Grate is wanted on a felony child support warrant, according to Major Joe Masi.
    A sheriff's deputy noticed Grate near First Merit Bank on U.S. 42. According to reports, the deputy stopped him and Grate fled while the deputy talked with him.

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    Grate is about six feet tall, weighing about 175 pounds. He was wearing a grey t-shirt and hat, blue jeans, and no shoes, according to Masi, and is considered armed and dangerous based on past history.

    http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/...hase/86155896/

    ETA: June is when the house was burned in Madison Twp, and the woman murdered.
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    This guy has a record alright. Here's something recent...

    http://wvno.com/news/single.asp?story=69011


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    This prior mug shot turns up on a Crawford County website:
    http://crawfordcountynow.com/shawn-michael-grate/
    I can't find any case info...

    There is a not-very-active FB profile of the same name from the same area but I am not bold enough (or adequately convinced) to call it ....

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    We posted that the exact same time. =]

    Child support warrant. I wonder if he was actually running because he thought they were onto him for the murder of the woman @ the burned house.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rosie_lee View Post
    NewsChannel 5 (@WEWS): https://twitter.com/WEWS?s=09

    Shawn Michael Grate named as suspect in Ashland County abduction, murders: https://t.co/ENfSx7uvNZ https://t.co/QUPZ4PuWWm

    Had I passed him on the street I would've thought he was harmless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener1850 View Post
    I'm taking it to mean decomp/skeletal.
    Also, according to the quote I posted earlier, he confessed to killing the woman in June. So that would eliminate Stacey and Elizabeth Griffith because they recently disappeared.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...php?p=12802973
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tillicum View Post
    Had I passed him on the street I would've thought he was harmless.
    So would I, Tilly. Jeez Louise!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tillicum View Post
    Had I passed him on the street I would've thought he was harmless.
    I believe I saw his Facebook, but not 100% sure it's him. Looks a little younger in the pics.



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    Quote Originally Posted by eucalyptuz View Post
    This prior mug shot turns up on a Crawford County website:
    http://crawfordcountynow.com/shawn-michael-grate/
    I can't find any case info...

    There is a not-very-active FB profile of the same name from the same area but I am not bold enough (or adequately convinced) to call it ....
    Same here. He looks like the same guy, just a little younger.


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