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    TX - Madison Co., UnkFem UP15905, 2-5, feeding tube, in container, Sep'16

    Not much yet on this discovery. A rancher discovered the remains on his pasture. The body has black hair about a foot long. The body was found in a container along with a medical apparatus commonly used with a feeding tube. The estimated age is anywhere from 2-5 years old.

    Any missing children from the area?

    http://bigstory.ap.org/571fdc2bf5c24...&utm_medium=AP

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    The Madison County Sheriff’s Office says a person who was mowing grass on Saturday discovered the container near a fence about 40 feet from the edge of an Interstate 45 feeder road. The area is near Madisonville, about 85 miles northwest of Houston.

    http://kfor.com/2016/09/20/investiga...medium=twitter

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    Has anyone seen a pic or composit drawing of this child.

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    According to authorities, no signs of trauma -- including tool marks -- were found on the decomposed body, which was found in a container behind a bush along the side of I-45 Saturday by a rancher who was mowing. Madison County Sheriff Travis Neeley estimates the remains had been out there for "possibly several months."


    Neeley also says there are some aspects of the crime, like the fact that it was right off the interstate, that lead him to think this wasn't a killing in his county. There are no persons of interest at this point. He said this case would be difficult to solve, partly because of how badly the girl's body was decomposed.

    http://www.kbtx.com/content/news/New...394024081.html

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    According to the Madison County Sheriff's Office, the child's race has not been determined in the initial testing by the Southwestern Institute of Forensic Science in Dallas. A medical device used with feeding tubes was found inside the girl, and the skeletal frame was underdeveloped. Manufacturing information on that medical equipment will be used as part of the investigation.

    http://www.kbtx.com/content/news/New...394024081.html

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    So the little girl had a medical problem. What could have happened.

    I presume this isn't a kidnap victim, or LE would have known about her.
    So, if it's the parents or a caregiver and she died accidentally why would they dump her by the side of the road? Is it because they couldn't afford a funeral/burial? And if not, why not at least bury her?

    If she was negligently allowed to die, then this might explain the situation. They didn't want to get in trouble.
    Maybe they couldn't handle the strain anymore of the medical bills and didn't get her adequate treatment.
    Maybe the parents were convinced by someone that there was a better way to go that working with the traditional medical system.
    Maybe a caregiver caved under the pressure of raising an unhealthy child and killed her in frustration.
    Maybe they thought the child was it too much pain and they were going to take the pain away completely.
    Maybe a wacko single mother met a guy, and realized that he wouldn't have a serious relationship with her as long as she had a sickly child. (Horrible thought, but similar things have happened before.)


    In any case, surely the medical info will be pursued through the medical community and will be the lead that solves the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoopster View Post
    So the little girl had a medical problem. What could have happened.

    I presume this isn't a kidnap victim, or LE would have known about her.
    So, if it's the parents or a caregiver and she died accidentally why would they dump her by the side of the road? Is it because they couldn't afford a funeral/burial? And if not, why not at least bury her?

    If she was negligently allowed to die, then this might explain the situation. They didn't want to get in trouble.
    Maybe they couldn't handle the strain anymore of the medical bills and didn't get her adequate treatment.
    Maybe the parents were convinced by someone that there was a better way to go that working with the traditional medical system.
    Maybe a caregiver caved under the pressure of raising an unhealthy child and killed her in frustration.
    Maybe they thought the child was it too much pain and they were going to take the pain away completely.
    Maybe a wacko single mother met a guy, and realized that he wouldn't have a serious relationship with her as long as she had a sickly child. (Horrible thought, but similar things have happened before.)


    In any case, surely the medical info will be pursued through the medical community and will be the lead that solves the case.
    There was a notorious case of Munchausen's by Proxy several years ago, where the mother got a feeding tube installed in her son (even though he did not need a feeding tube). She killed him while trying to poison him (with salt) enough to get him hospitalized again.

    While Googling trying to find this woman's name, I found other cases where a bad parent got a feeding tube installed unnecessarily: apparently Lacey Spears was not unique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoopster View Post
    So the little girl had a medical problem. What could have happened.

    I presume this isn't a kidnap victim, or LE would have known about her.
    So, if it's the parents or a caregiver and she died accidentally why would they dump her by the side of the road? Is it because they couldn't afford a funeral/burial? And if not, why not at least bury her?

    If she was negligently allowed to die, then this might explain the situation. They didn't want to get in trouble.
    Maybe they couldn't handle the strain anymore of the medical bills and didn't get her adequate treatment.
    Maybe the parents were convinced by someone that there was a better way to go that working with the traditional medical system.
    Maybe a caregiver caved under the pressure of raising an unhealthy child and killed her in frustration.
    Maybe they thought the child was it too much pain and they were going to take the pain away completely.
    Maybe a wacko single mother met a guy, and realized that he wouldn't have a serious relationship with her as long as she had a sickly child. (Horrible thought, but similar things have happened before.)


    In any case, surely the medical info will be pursued through the medical community and will be the lead that solves the case.
    BBM. It could be a foster or medically fragile adoption. In this situation, even if birth parents, this seems like someone is still collecting benefits on this little one. It just seems they dumped her where she could be found. Like maybe hoping someone would bury her/have a funeral. If it was homicide, I would think they would bury her. My guess is they drove quiet distance to do so. Even if death was accidental, someone made a choice not to report it. And usually money is a motivator. Sadly. And no-one will know she is gone, because they most likely moved states. Or areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucyOso View Post
    BBM. It could be a foster or medically fragile adoption. In this situation, even if birth parents, this seems like someone is still collecting benefits on this little one. It just seems they dumped her where she could be found. Like maybe hoping someone would bury her/have a funeral. If it was homicide, I would think they would bury her. My guess is they drove quiet distance to do so. Even if death was accidental, someone made a choice not to report it. And usually money is a motivator. Sadly. And no-one will know she is gone, because they most likely moved states. Or areas.
    I agree about the money. I definitely feel there is something untoward with the way she died. Obviously, Madison could still be Connie Lopez's granddaughter but I think maybe this is something that was closer to home. I think she died at the hands of family and they wanted to get away with this. I think it's more likely that if this was a homicide, they would be less likely to want to bury her - a lack of a respectful burial shows a lack of respect for the life lost. Just like baby Bella Bond. She didn't stand a chance with Momster and her boyfriend and she ended up on Deer Island, dumped just like this little one.

    I think if she died accidentally, they would either report it or at least bury her privately.
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    Yes I agree. The medical apparatus information will be the biggest clue to solving the case. JMO


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    Surely a child requiring tube feeding would have regular medical appointments? There must be a way of finding who hasn't attended recently in that age range

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    The 'device' is probably a Mic-Key low profile gastrostomy 'button'. Lots of kids have them for lots of reasons. Extremely premature infants who are chronically ill as a result. Certain birth defects in which swallowing is impaired or impossible. Prolonged time on a ventilator. Genetic disorders.

    The likelihood of tracing a child through any type of serial number is low. The device is changed out by the parent or a home care nurse monthly.

    There is a thriving 'black market' (not really illegal- I just can't think of a better term) of parents of special needs children who buy/sell/trade no longer needed equipment. Lest you think there is some element of cheating involved- that is seldom the case. For example, a former patient of mine was weaned from the ventilator after two years on one at home. Mom had thousands of dollars worth of unused disposable tubing circuits. Now you'd think the company that supplied them would just take them back. But no- once Medicaid pays for it- it belongs to the client, whether they are able to use it or not. So this trading network evolved.

    IMHO- THAT is where LE should start looking. Among the network of special needs parents out there. See who has stopped posting about their child on FB. Who no longer comes to support group meetings.
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    Still no news? :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oblio View Post
    Still no news? :/
    I wondering too.




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    Is it possible that the age of the child is wrong? Could it be someone a lot older?
    I know there's a disabled girl in the missing page. As per the case she disappeared in the middle of the night. However she's into her teens.
    Something to keep on the back my mind.
    I hope they find out who this child is. My heart breaks for them. This is such a sad case. Heartbreaking.

    RIP little girl.

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