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    MD- Police respond to 911 medical call, caller killed after police punch

    Baltimore man who called 911 for help dies after being punched by police

    "A 21-year-old man died in a hospital near Baltimore on Wednesday, after an altercation with county police officers who repeatedly punched him as they responded to a call for an ambulance." He had called the ambulance for help for himself. Apparently high, and/or delusional. Once again, a family member pleads for the police to be careful, that they're going to kill him...

    "“They really were supposed to be there to get him to the nearest healthcare facility,” Francis-Williams said.

    After being questioned on the discrepancy, the police department updated its account, saying: “Police originally thought the girlfriend was the caller because the information passed on to police from the dispatcher said ‘female yelling on the phone’.

    You'd think Baltimore police would have learned something from the Freddie Gray killing, but then again, when they're not being held accountable for killing people in their custody, what do they have to lose? They know they can act with impunity.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-he-called-911

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    Quote Originally Posted by animlzrule View Post
    Baltimore man who called 911 for help dies after being punched by police

    "A 21-year-old man died in a hospital near Baltimore on Wednesday, after an altercation with county police officers who repeatedly punched him as they responded to a call for an ambulance." He had called the ambulance for help for himself. Apparently high, and/or delusional. Once again, a family member pleads for the police to be careful, that they're going to kill him...

    "“They really were supposed to be there to get him to the nearest healthcare facility,” Francis-Williams said.

    After being questioned on the discrepancy, the police department updated its account, saying: “Police originally thought the girlfriend was the caller because the information passed on to police from the dispatcher said ‘female yelling on the phone’.

    You'd think Baltimore police would have learned something from the Freddie Gray killing, but then again, when they're not being held accountable for killing people in their custody, what do they have to lose? They know they can act with impunity.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-he-called-911
    When making statements about another case it is only fair to state facts. These officers were indicted a grand jury. Most had trials where they found not guilty, one had a hung jury and the other cases were dropped. Also I believe they have been cleared by the DOJ. According to our laws (which apply to all including police) they were not responsible for his death. It may be ones opinion that they weren't held accountable but it is only an opinion.
    Still waiting for more information on this case.

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    What in the actual salty blue hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohreally View Post
    When making statements about another case it is only fair to state facts. These officers were indicted a grand jury. Most had trials where they found not guilty, one had a hung jury and the other cases were dropped. Also I believe they have been cleared by the DOJ. According to our laws (which apply to all including police) they were not responsible for his death. It may be ones opinion that they weren't held accountable but it is only an opinion.
    Still waiting for more information on this case.
    Well, seeing as how spines do not spontaneously snap, and he had no spinal injury before coming in contact with police, and had a snapped spine after having been in police custody, it's pretty clear the police were involved. Unfortunately, politics once again intervened with justice. And as we've seen multiple times since, even having video evidence of police negligence, brutality and ineptitude does not guarantee a successful prosecution. I have little hope that Boyd's family will ever see justice. Obviously no lessons were learned in Baltimore.

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    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/mar...922-story.html


    Tawon Boyd's family, attorneys question why fatal force was used during 'medical crisis'

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    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tawon-bo...t-with-police/

    MIDDLE RIVER, Md. -- A black man has died, days after fighting with five Baltimore County police officers who were called to his home because he was behaving strangely, and a lawyer for the man’s family said it’s clear that officers used excessive force.
    Tawon Boyd, 21, died Wednesday after spending three days in a hospital following the confrontation with officers on Sunday outside his home in Middle River. Police said in a statement that he became aggressive with officers, who used physical force to subdue him.
    “They kept on grabbing on him and holding him down, and he started screaming, ‘Grandma, Grandma, they’re going to kill me,’” Linda Burch, Boyd’s grandmother, told The Associated Press. Burch, 51, had been staying with her grandson and witnessed the confrontation across the street from his home.
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    Man Dies 3 Days After Calling Police for Help

    Police noted he seemed "confused and paranoid," and it was clear he "needed to be taken to the hospital." But Boyd started trying to get into police cars and resisted attempts to restrain him, resulting in minor injuries to three officers. Based on the police report, it doesn't appear Boyd was trying to hurt the officers.

    He was holding onto one of the officer's shirts when the officer punched him twice in the face. At that point, the family's lawyer, Latoya Francis-Williams, says Boyd was "literally attacked" by officers. She says they got on top of him and "really started wailing."
    Something is very wrong here.

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    Questions, Opinions, Interpretations? Waiting for more facts.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/24/baltimore-man-tawon-boyd-dies-after-he-called-911?CMP=twt_guSept 24

    Re article’s stmt: “…it doesn’t appear that Boyd was trying to hurt the officers” bbm
    I have not seen any vid yet, but “it doesn’t appear” is a subjective opinion, not a factual conclusion.Seems this isMichael Harthorne, Newser Staff opinion. Or someone else? Was Mr. Boyd trying to hurt the LEOs? Maybe. Maybe not. IDK.

    Re article’s stmt: Boyd repeatedly asked officers to enter his home, the report said, and asked a neighbor to call the police.”
    This puzzles me. Were LEOs already at the home, when Boyd asked neighbor to call police? Or did reporter misunderstand/misreport sequence of those two events?

    Re: Ms Burch’s/grandmother’s stmt: Boyd "was acting...like he was on something."
    Again, another opinion. May be accurate, may not be. If he was “on something” does he “get a pass” on resisting arrest or causing injury to LEOs, who then should not have used any force on him? IDK. If he was not drunk or on drugs, do his actions justify LEOs’ use of force reactions? IDK.


    Re LEO incident report at http://www.wbaltv.com/blob/view/-/41...ice-report.pdf:
    Same analysis applies. Some of the phrasing may be opinion; some may be objectively verifiable facts. Is each sentence accurate, actually factual? IDK.

    Re: cause of death & manner of death.
    An autopsy has not been completed….”
    “Though an autopsy has not been released, Francis-Williams [lawyer for Boyd’s family] said therewas “swelling on the brain and fluid on the brain because the doctors attempted to drain that.
    “My understanding is his kidneys end up failing and at some point, his heart stops,” she said.
    ” <--- from theguardian.com link.

    From http://www.newser.com/story/231591/man-dies-after-being-punched-by-police-he-called.html
    “…medic gave Boyd haloperidol, an antipsychotic drug, to calm himdown. An autopsy is now looking into whether the drug played a role in Boyd's death Wednesday from heart and kidneyfailure.” bbm

    Were CoD& MoD from injuries inflicted by LEOs at scene? Or by the drug the medic admin’ed at scene? Or by doctor/health professionals at hosp in the following few days? One of those three is likely, JM2cts. Did a stealthy ninja hired by a foreign government enter his room and kill him for political purposes? Did he die of natural causes or suicide? IDK on those but doubt it.


    Anyway, no CoD or MoD available now. I’ll take a few deep breaths and await autopsy report.

    RIP Mr. Boyd.

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    I didn't think Haldol was used much any more. Here is some basic information on it.

    https://www.drugs.com/cdi/haloperidol.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by al66pine View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/24/baltimore-man-tawon-boyd-dies-after-he-called-911?CMP=twt_guSept 24

    Re article’s stmt: “…it doesn’t appear that Boyd was trying to hurt the officers” bbm
    I have not seen any vid yet, but “it doesn’t appear” is a subjective opinion, not a factual conclusion.Seems this isMichael Harthorne, Newser Staff opinion. Or someone else? Was Mr. Boyd trying to hurt the LEOs? Maybe. Maybe not. IDK.

    Re article’s stmt: Boyd repeatedly asked officers to enter his home, the report said, and asked a neighbor to call the police.”
    This puzzles me. Were LEOs already at the home, when Boyd asked neighbor to call police? Or did reporter misunderstand/misreport sequence of those two events?

    Re: Ms Burch’s/grandmother’s stmt: Boyd "was acting...like he was on something."
    Again, another opinion. May be accurate, may not be. If he was “on something” does he “get a pass” on resisting arrest or causing injury to LEOs, who then should not have used any force on him? IDK. If he was not drunk or on drugs, do his actions justify LEOs’ use of force reactions? IDK.


    Re LEO incident report athttp://www.wbaltv.com/blob/view/-/41...ice-report.pdf:
    Same analysis applies. Some of the phrasing may be opinion; some may be objectively verifiable facts. Is each sentence accurate, actually factual? IDK.

    Re: cause of death & manner of death.
    An autopsy has not been completed….”
    “Though an autopsy has not been released, Francis-Williams [lawyer for Boyd’s family] said therewas “swelling on the brain and fluid on the brain because the doctors attempted to drain that.
    “My understanding is his kidneys end up failing and at some point, his heart stops,” she said.
    ” <--- from theguardian.com link.

    From http://www.newser.com/story/231591/man-dies-after-being-punched-by-police-he-called.html
    “…medic gave Boyd haloperidol, an antipsychotic drug, to calm himdown. An autopsy is now looking into whether the drug played a role in Boyd's death Wednesday from heart and kidneyfailure.” bbm

    Were CoD& MoD from injuries inflicted by LEOs at scene? Or by the drug the medic admin’ed at scene? Or by doctor/health professionals at hosp in the following few days? One of those three is likely, JM2cts. Did a stealthy ninja hired by a foreign government enter his room and kill him for political purposes? Did he die of natural causes or suicide? IDK on those but doubt it.


    Anyway, no CoD or MoD available now. I’ll take a few deep breaths and await autopsy report.

    RIP Mr. Boyd.
    IMO the most important question is what is the cause of death and what was the manner of death. Law enforcement was called to the house on a medical emergency.
    Also if he was resisting, were the 'punches' self defense?


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    No matter what the circumstances, the black guy is at fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohreally View Post
    IMO the most important question is what is the cause of death and what was the manner of death. Law enforcement was called to the house on a medical emergency.
    Also if he was resisting, were the 'punches' self defense?
    Because punching someone clearly in distress and needing medical attention is... ok?
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    Half of People Killed by Police Have a Disability: Report

    Almost half of the people who die at the hands of police have some kind of disability, according to a new report, as officers are often drawn into emergencies where urgent care may be more appropriate than lethal force.

    The report, published by the Ruderman Family Foundation, a disability organization, proposes that while police interactions with minorities draw increasing scrutiny, disability and health considerations are still neglected in media coverage and law enforcement policy.

    "Police have become the default responders to mental health calls," write the authors, historian David Perry and disability expert Lawrence Carter-Long, who analyzed incidents from 2013 to 2015. They propose that "people with psychiatric disabilities" are presumed to be "dangerous to themselves and others" in police interactions.
    The report compares Saylor's case to several other instances where police used force on non-compliant individuals with Down syndrome. The implication is that using force to address compliance - an option in conventional policing — is counterproductive without careful attention to a suspect's health or cognitive abilities.

    The authors recommend police adopt specific training to address people with disabilities, and they argue that public discussion of police brutality should consider the intersection of disability, class and race in scrutinizing police use of force.

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    Oh jeez. I read here a lot. Too much, if Mr flourish and my sister are to be believed lol.

    But this made me cry a bit. I work with this population. So many of my clients could be one of these statistics.
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