1096 users online (222 members and 874 guests)  



Websleuths News


Page 1 of 18 1 2 3 11 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 259
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    33,822

    The Sidebar - Ross Harris Trial

    A place for general discussion about the trial when trial is not in session. We have a long weekend and trial won't resume until next week so this is a spot for you to hang out, relax, and discuss your thoughts on what has transpired thus far.


    I'll lay out some snacks,

    tlcya

    Attached Images Attached Images

    Websleuths now on Facebook


    Welcome to all new members. Thank you for joining the conversation. Please take a moment to become familiar with the TOS and rules, etiquette and information.

    mni wiconi I Stand With Standing Rock

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    The Other End
    Posts
    25,751
    I don't see a martini in that delicious spread, tlcya


    This post is my opinion only, and is subject to making me look totally confused

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    6,478
    Thank you for the snacks and coffee. As long as I've been on WS (I first came here because of Cooper), I've never revealed that I'm a coffee addict. Now you know.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Posts
    748
    I am pulling this over from the trial thread, but unfortunately I do not know how to officially quote it.

    Post# 1030 by collete:
    Even though he has made this trip many times, the trip still takes longer than the LE says it does. If they have such a good case, why do they have to lie about many facts? That is the problem with this case. Also Harris usually went to CFA drive thru so things were different that day.

    Respectfully, the trip is that short. While LE has been less than truthful about many things that have been released, it is .6 miles from CFA to the Tree House. The 0.6 miles includes an extra 0.1 mile for making the U-turn to avoid the center median. It is about 0.15 miles, including the U-turn, from CFA to the middle of the intersection. It is less than 0.1 miles from the CFA exit until the turn lane starts. I have driven through that intersection over 1,000 times (twice a day for 4+ years), and I can assure you that it is just as close as LE says that it is. In fact, I think that the State did a terrible job during the opening statements with not conveying to the jury exactly how close the turn lane is to the CFA exit. The turn lane is actually immediately in front of the CFA exit, but Ross had to backtrack about 100-150 yards to avoid the median.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Pacific Northwest
    Posts
    4,510
    OMG tlcya - I'm soooo hungry now. I'll see y'all on Monday! Thank you!

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Posts
    537
    I consider myself an agnostic at this point when it comes to whether RH intentionally left Cooper in the car.

    While the close distance between CF and where RH parked for work makes it seem that it would be impossible for him to forget Cooper, we don't know what was going on in RH's mind during that whole morning.

    While he may have been going through the motions of taking care of Cooper (taking him to breakfast, etc), that doesn't mean that his mind was focused on those tasks. He could have been completely preoccupied with something else. If he wasn't deeply mentally engaged with his son that morning, and merely just "going through the motions" so to speak, then it seems plausible to me that his mind did drift away from Cooper during that short drive.

    If that was the case, then it shouldn't matter if it was a 1 minute drive, or a 10 minute drive to the day care.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    592
    True.....he may have been preoccupied with sexting underage girls and its very hard to keep your mind on your child when you have other more important things to think about.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    2,167
    Something that just crossed my mind...if you truly, accidentally left your child in the car, then were arrested, denied bail, had very personal info spread publicly about you, and also had police stating false evidence against you(surely RH knows if he searched these things) I think MOST people would have filed a lawsuit or something by this point. I haven't followed the case too closely after the beginning, was RH said he absolutely didn't search those things? Do defendants have to wait until after trial to file a lawsuit?
    'Every life has a measure of sorrow, and sometimes this is what awakens us.' - Steven Tyler

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    2,167
    Quote Originally Posted by smeck View Post
    True.....he may have been preoccupied with sexting underage girls and its very hard to keep your mind on your child when you have other more important things to think about.
    Sick irony that he was so concerned about sending lewd pictures to other people's children but couldn't remember his own!
    'Every life has a measure of sorrow, and sometimes this is what awakens us.' - Steven Tyler

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    The Other End
    Posts
    25,751
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinkasaurus View Post
    I consider myself an agnostic at this point when it comes to whether RH intentionally left Cooper in the car.

    While the close distance between CF and where RH parked for work makes it seem that it would be impossible for him to forget Cooper, we don't know what was going on in RH's mind during that whole morning.

    While he may have been going through the motions of taking care of Cooper (taking him to breakfast, etc), that doesn't mean that his mind was focused on those tasks. He could have been completely preoccupied with something else. If he wasn't deeply mentally engaged with his son that morning, and merely just "going through the motions" so to speak, then it seems plausible to me that his mind did drift away from Cooper during that short drive.

    If that was the case, then it shouldn't matter if it was a 1 minute drive, or a 10 minute drive to the day care.
    Then taking Cooper to daycare could also be "going through the motions" as well. Just something he did, he took Cooper to daycare other days, it was part of his routine (from time to time). Again, it's not like forgetting your coffee in the car, I'm sure he would have remembered that, but not his son?


    This post is my opinion only, and is subject to making me look totally confused


  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    90
    One thought that keeps coming back to me is the way he was "acting"... Very distressed one minute, quiet the next... Alternating between these two reactions. Many witnesses have reported this behavior of going from one extreme to the next.

    It's occurred to me that it reminds me of another hot car death in recent memory- the past 5 years or so. I'm sorry I cannot recall the names but the circumstances were a mother ( and I'm thinking it was a single mom or mom In a same-sex couple) did forget her little boy in the car when she went to work. Not sure, but I'm thinking she was a health care worker or emt or something like this--- she discovered the boy in her car, dead, after a long workday... But the part I recall clearly was the 911 call. A bystander called 911' and on the recording you can hear the mother Screaming Crying, In Agony, then... Silence... Then again, the Screaming, Crying, Agony.... Silence..... Many times this went on. It was explained that she was performing cpr on her boy.

    When she was administering breaths she was silent, but between breaths she went into "mom mode" and was grief and terror stricken. so my question is, does anyone else recall this case? Does anyone think RH may have heard of this case and been trying to 'copy' this woman's reaction?

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Pacific Northwest
    Posts
    4,510
    Quote Originally Posted by PaperDoll View Post
    Then taking Cooper to daycare could also be "going through the motions" as well. Just something he did, he took Cooper to daycare other days, it was part of his routine (from time to time). Again, it's not like forgetting your coffee in the car, I'm sure he would have remembered that, but not his son?
    Well... maybe it is. During the pc hearing Kilgore compared forgetting Cooper in the car to forgetting boxed leftovers. Hey, it happens to everybody.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    11,044
    Quote Originally Posted by RaeL View Post
    One thought that keeps coming back to me is the way he was "acting"... Very distressed one minute, quiet the next... Alternating between these two reactions. Many witnesses have reported this behavior of going from one extreme to the next.

    It's occurred to me that it reminds me of another hot car death in recent memory- the past 5 years or so. I'm sorry I cannot recall the names but the circumstances were a mother ( and I'm thinking it was a single mom or mom In a same-sex couple) did forget her little boy in the car when she went to work. Not sure, but I'm thinking she was a health care worker or emt or something like this--- she discovered the boy in her car, dead, after a long workday... But the part I recall clearly was the 911 call. A bystander called 911' and on the recording you can hear the mother Screaming Crying, In Agony, then... Silence... Then again, the Screaming, Crying, Agony.... Silence..... Many times this went on. It was explained that she was performing cpr on her boy.

    When she was administering breaths she was silent, but between breaths she went into "mom mode" and was grief and terror stricken. so my question is, does anyone else recall this case? Does anyone think RH may have heard of this case and been trying to 'copy' this woman's reaction?

    No. I don't think so. Ross Harris may be emotionally immature and was for sure an unfaithful husband, but there is no evidence whatsoever he is a sociopath, and he would have to be that to see his dead baby's body and to feel nothing, and to have to play act to work up an upset, or to imitate what he remembered about someone else's grieving.

    Every friend he and Leanne had, and all their church and work acquintances, have said the same thing- Ross loved Cooper. Only LE and the DA have said otherwise, after Cooper's death, with zero evidence to back up that assertion. Zero. As in, none at all.

    The best they could come up with is searches they say he did about living a child free life, searches he in fact apparently never did. He never responded to posts on that forum, and the 3 posts he clicked on had nothing whatsoever to do , actually, with children at all, much less living without children, much less killing one's child to be "free."

    Absent any evidence whatsoever that Ross did not love Cooper, I think it's a huge stretch to assume Ross felt no grief that day, even if he didn't express it in a way that met approval by LE or others.
    Last edited by Hope4More; 10-06-2016 at 10:36 PM.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    3,652
    Quote Originally Posted by Hope4More View Post
    No. I don't think so. Ross Harris may be emotionally immature and was for sure an unfaithful husband, but there is no evidence whatsoever he is a sociopath, and he would have to be that to see his dead baby's body and to feel nothing and to have to play act to work up an upset, or to imitate what he remembered about someone else's grieving.

    Every friend he and Leanne had, and all their church and work acquintances, have said the same thing- Ross loved Cooper. Only LE and the DA have said otherwise, after Cooper's death, with zero evidence to back up that assertion. Zero. As in, none at all.

    The best they could come up with is searches they say he did about living a child free life, searches he in fact apparently never did. He never responded to posts on that forum, and the 3 posts he clicked on had nothing whatsoever to do , actually, with children at all, much less living without children, much less killing one's child to be "free."

    Absent any evidence whatsoever that Ross did not love Cooper, I think it's a huge stretch, and unfair, to assume Ross felt no grief that day, even if he didn't express it in a way that met approval by LE or others.
    The defense claims this, yes? Have they mentioned they have proof that he did not make these searches or comments? Or is this their interpretation of the evidence presented? They are going to paint a very different picture than the prosecution, this is obvious and expcted. I think it's a bit hasty to jump on the lying cop bandwagon, until the defense shows their "proof" this happened. JMO.

    IMO, love means very little. People do horrible things to people they love all the time. People distort love. He probably did love Cooper, but that doesn't mean he valued his life. In fact, I think the timeline shows he didn't. Whether he planned this, I don't know for sure.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    6,478
    Has there been any indication on how long the trial is expected to last?

Page 1 of 18 1 2 3 11 ... LastLast


Similar Threads

  1. Trial - Ross Harris #7
    By tlcya in forum Cooper Harris
    Replies: 1082
    Last Post: 11-03-2016, 03:28 PM
  2. Trial - Ross Harris #5
    By tlcya in forum Cooper Harris
    Replies: 1094
    Last Post: 10-31-2016, 11:11 AM
  3. Trial - Ross Harris #3
    By tlcya in forum Cooper Harris
    Replies: 1260
    Last Post: 10-25-2016, 08:42 PM
  4. Trial - Ross Harris #2
    By tlcya in forum Cooper Harris
    Replies: 1728
    Last Post: 10-22-2016, 11:43 AM
  5. TRIAL - Ross Harris #1
    By tlcya in forum Cooper Harris
    Replies: 1242
    Last Post: 10-17-2016, 10:44 PM