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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    The Doenetwork has now indicated in their summary that Mary Shotwell Little's fingerprints are available.

    This is an interesting case with a lot of information. Unfortunately, it is still unsolved 42 years after her disappearance.
    This is one of my "pet" cases that I go back and read everything there is to read on it every once in a while. I saw that too, on April 5, while reading the updates on Doe Network that they added her fingerprints. That's kind of strange. If they had them on file all these years, wouldn't it have made sense to include them on websites such as Doe and Charley Project that has info on Mary's case? Interesting.

    Here's another link to an article I keep bookmarked from the Atlanta Journal Constitution in 2004. Some of it may appear in other posts on this case here but it's rather in-depth and may have something new for folks to read that isn't posted on WS already.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1102670/posts

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    Somebody once wrote me to claim Mary's disappearance was the result of an improperly designed work desk. I'm not kidding. They have a website linking improperly designed desks to disappearances, murders, suicides and nervous breakdowns around the globe.
    Well! When all else fails to explain a mystery alternative theories find more fertile soil to sprout. And I have no trouble at all believing that non-ergonomic office furniture can induce psychological frustration even though I fail to see the connection in this case based on the evidence provided. Do you know if the website you mention still exists?

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    I don't mean to answer your question for meggilyweggily but I saw the website with the link below a long time ago when I was reading about Mary's case. If you go the link and click on the menu next to the green bar on the left, they also tell of other cases supposedly the result of working in cubicles and how it affects peripheral vision. They also claim a "mental event" called dissociative fugue occurred in many unexplained disappearances. They even mention Ronald Tammen, another case here on Websleuths. He disappeared from Miami University of Ohio in 1953. Some people really believe this stuff happens! I don't put too much stock in it but, who knows? There's a lot of reading to sift through there. Meggilyweggily may know of another website too.

    http://www.visionandpsychosis.net/Ma...ne_Shields.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by liz325 View Post
    I don't mean to answer your question for meggilyweggily but I saw the website with the link below a long time ago when I was reading about Mary's case. If you go the link and click on the menu next to the green bar on the left, they also tell of other cases supposedly the result of working in cubicles and how it affects peripheral vision. They also claim a "mental event" called dissociative fugue occurred in many unexplained disappearances. They even mention Ronald Tammen, another case here on Websleuths. He disappeared from Miami University of Ohio in 1953. Some people really believe this stuff happens! I don't put too much stock in it but, who knows? There's a lot of reading to sift through there. Meggilyweggily may know of another website too.

    http://www.visionandpsychosis.net/Ma...ne_Shields.htm
    Thanks!

    After spending a tedious 30 minutes reading the page I decided to rotate my desk inside my home office because I had my back to a window and who knows I might have experienced a sudden fit of psycho-dissociative Qi Ming that may have lead to an explosive awakening of my Kundanimi and God knows we wouldn't want that to happen.



    Seriously, I was expecting something out of the ordinary but nothing like this tsunami of pseudoscience. I don't think that a degree in psychology is required to tell that the author is unable to demonstrate any evidence of the actual existence of the condition he describes as being caused by the absence of "cubicle level protection" in the workplace. If his theories had any foundation then secretarial pools would be teeming with psychotic people wanting to vanish or claiming to have been abducted by aliens or what have you when we all know that this sort of people is much more likely to be found in the boss' walled office.

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    I agree. And for the record, I actually find the website offensive. Jason Jolkowski is on that list - as well as other students who clearly are not walking around because of a bad desk set up, like Wade Steffey and John Fiocco and Ryan Ketcher - and there is absolutely no evidence on the site that links them to even having a desk, let alone this stupid disassociative state because of a desk... I think that the site is minimizing the tragedies and possible crimes that have befallen many victims...

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    Indeed, and the disheveled layout of that website leads me to suspect that the author himself may be suffering from some sort of thought structure disorder.

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    You're both right, it IS ridiculous. As I said above, I don't put much stock into the theory and can't quite grasp the fact that some people actually believe in it. When I initially came across the website a few years ago, while reading about Mary's case, my first thought was that I had never read so many words put together in one place before that made no sense at all. I only looked at what they said about Mary and Ronald Tammen. I never went back to the website and only looked it up by googling Mary Shotwell Little's name when I saw Karl's question to see if I could find it again. It makes me angry too that more recent tragedies (Wade Steffey and John Fiocco) are on there.

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    I think at one point the website says something like, "It's a fact that the suicide rate at high schools and colleges goes up during exam times. This is because students spend too much time studying at their poorly designed desks, and thus go crazy."

    So it has NOTHING to do with the stress of exams. Riiight.

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    There must have been fingerprints all over that Comet. And all the police come up with is a partial palm print? This strikes me as one of those cases where, if everyone had done their job, it would have been solved.

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    I was discussing the new NPO I am starting in GA to someone at our local bank and she asked me if I knew about this case...she went to school with her...I was happy to see it here at WS!!!!

    I am interested in following this and looking more into it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christine2448 View Post
    I was discussing the new NPO I am starting in GA to someone at our local bank and she asked me if I knew about this case...she went to school with her...I was happy to see it here at WS!!!!

    I am interested in following this and looking more into it.
    You are certainly in a good position for finding out some more information about this case. Often the best resources are old newspaper files available on microfilm or in bound copies held in local libraries. Please post what you find on this interesting case.

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    Hi Richard. Thanks for originally posting this. You initially provided an abundance of information. Is there anything specific you would like me to research here locally?

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    I posted a link to an article back in April similar to others posted on here. But I did a search and found a new article about classic crimes in Atlanta. They had this to say about Mary Shotwell Little:

    The Disappearance of Mary Shotwell Little
    On the night of Oct. 14, 1965, twenty-five-year-old Mary Shotwell Little disappeared from the Lenox Mall. Little was newly married to Roy Little and employed at C&S Bank.
    Roy Little was out of town so his wife had dinner with co-worker Ila Stock.
    The next morning, Little neither showed up for work nor called in to explain her absence. Bank workers phoned her home but got no answer. Her boss, Eugene M. Rackley, discussed her absence with Stock.
    Stock recalled the section Little said she had parked in; Rackley contacted Lenox security, asking them to look in that area for her Comet. They reported back that they could not find it. The boss drove down to look for himself and found Little's car right in the sector that security said they had searched.
    The automobile contained a blood-smeared stocking.
    Roy Little’s alibi checked out and investigators found that he had nothing to gain by her death. There were no reports of major discord in the marriage.
    In November 1965, evidence appeared. Little's gasoline credit card had been used both in Charlotte and Raleigh, North Carolina, the day after her disappearance. Both receipts bore Little's signature in handwriting that experts said "resembled" hers.
    Gas station attendants remembered servicing a woman who may have been Little. They had seen a “bloodied” woman accompanied by a man or two men. Why hadn't the workers alerted authorities to an injured woman? Perhaps due to an attitude of “not getting involved.”
    If the woman was Little, why had her abductor(s) forced her to drive to her hometown of Charlotte?
    As investigators pursued the case, they accumulated a large box of data. It has been lost. This eerie coincidence need not indicate anything sinister, according to John P Quigley, Atlanta Police Public Information Officer: "The turnover in personnel probably has something to do with items getting lost. New people come in and they're not aware of whether some items are properly stored."

    *******"The last major activity in the case was in 1994. Detective Carl Price worked on it. An informant appeared to have valid information and passed two polygraphs. “Then we obtained a search warrant for the mechanic's shop in Cumming, Georgia, under which the witness claimed Little had been buried,” Price recalls. “The FBI has an instrument to locate a grave, and they flew it down along with two forensic anthropologists to supervise. The imaging machine got hits which indicated the ground had been disturbed.” They dug but found nothing. “The disturbance in the imaging turned out to be because a petrified fence post was there," Price explains."*********************

    The case remains open. Major Lloyd says, "We'll check any new information. We solve cold cases all the time.”
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    It says mostly the same things as in other articles but I don't remember reading before that they had a lead in 1994 and dug up a mechanic's shop in Cumming, GA looking for her. As far as getting any kind of a break in the case now, I know it's going on 42 years, but it's possible people involved in her disappearance are still alive.

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    "New" information

    Quote Originally Posted by christine2448 View Post
    Hi Richard. Thanks for originally posting this. You initially provided an abundance of information. Is there anything specific you would like me to research here locally?
    "New" information is news if you have never seen it before. There are certainly many questions that come to mind when reading about a case like this. But keep in mind that most - if not all - of the "easy" research these days is just the same old internet stuff rehashed over and over again. One website simply copies from another, just like anniversary stories in newspapers copy from previous ones.

    When you go back to some of the origional stories, however, you might come up with something which was mentioned only once and then not again. Although this information might not be solid evidence, it might provide a clue or avenue for further searching. The thing is, you never know what might turn up when you read those old news articles. I have seen long, personal interviews with family members in small local newspapers which are never picked up by UPI, AP, or the bigger city papers.

    The main thing is to read as much as you can about a case first, and then develop questions about it in your mind and on paper. Once you have asked the questions, the answers will often come to you in ways and at times you least expect.

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    It may be a week or two before I can get the time to go and do this research...I will post what I find.

    It also may take a few trips.

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